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If a country is too aristocratic, decentralized and the king dies heirless, then the country becomes a noble elective monarchy and can fall in the liberum veto trap as poland-lithuania did.

There are several candidates for the elective crown: if the candidate belongs to another country (Ex: Saxony , France , Sweden or Russia) then the country (Ex: Poland) will be in personal union with that foreign country till the death of that monarch.

If the candidate is indipendent then the player can play as usual, but if he dares to abolish the liberum veto or centralize or diminsh the power of the aristocrats then he will face a massive uprising + possible intervention of countries who have their candidates ready for the next election.

The strenght of each candidate is determined by many variables including the geographical proximity and the military power of the country which supports him.

The liberum veto can affect any country not only Poland, and its effect should be to significantly delay the developement of the affected country

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There is liberum veto decision implemented already.

Yeah but its nothing like what he is describing, it just adds a few units when your war exaustion is high. Sounds like a good idea, maybe I should implement something similar in my mod.
 

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Question for the OP:

Why is this good for gameplay? The way you describe it makes it sound like an unnecessarily protracted "game over".
 

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Yeah but its nothing like what he is describing, it just adds a few units when your war exaustion is high.
Absolutely not true, it also adds a trigger for not_so_very_interesting events when aristocracy demands further concessions (and you can choice to another decentralization hit + lowering one province tax or face rebellion).
It also adds event for reforming the system, which - if you take - gives you big move towards centralization and plutocracy, it gives nice few provinces tax increase...

...and also free cores for all your neighbours on your every border province :cool: