Timurids start with 29 BB points

[unmerged(6147)]

Started up a GC on Very Hard on 1.05 as the Timurids. After a few years, when I was about to claim my first provinces in a peace negotiation, I first checked my BB points. They were 29! Apparently you start with that if you play them. Has it always been like this?

(The only diplomatic actions I had made so far was concluding some trade agreements, i.e. I had e.g. not made any DoW.)

 

[kurtbrian]

I think it is supposed to be that way.

The timurid empire wasn't very well-liked at the time...

 

[Styrbiorn]

Originally posted by kurtbrian
I think it is supposed to be that way.

The timurid empire wasn't very well-liked at the time...

That's right. This and the events make the Timurids really hard (and fun) to play

 

[Petrarca]

Was this a new addition from 1.05?

 

[unmerged(7580)]

Originally posted by Petrarca
Was this a new addition from 1.05?

Yes

 

[Lt. Tyler]

Originally posted by Petrarca
Was this a new addition from 1.05?

Don't think so, as I just played a Timurids in 1.04, and started in the 'bad' category for sure (not sure exactly the value though).

It was okay since I just sat around for the first bit waiting for the disintegration events. At that point, with my poor play I ended up loosing Persia. Hmm, that made my badboy much better. I wonder why??

 

[kurtbrian]

Yes

No - It was there in 1.04 as well

 

[unmerged(7580)]

Well by yes i obviously meant no, sorry you guys didn't pick up on that

I guess i was thinking of Burgundy in 1.05

 

[unmerged(5503)]

In 1.02 TIM badboy = 30.

 

[kurtbrian]

hmmm....

must have been around for a while then...

 

[Peter Ebbesen]

Yes, the Timurids are uniquely blessed in starting with major BB points and inflation, and that is nothing new. There is no excuse for not going on a conquest binge, when you have survived the first century.

....And it is great fun, though the 'kill all the traitors' event choice can be hard to survive unscathed (the more power to you for doing so, of course).

 

[unmerged(9347)]

forewarned is forarmed as they say

i am trying them out now. I didnt do anything except RMs, trade treaties etc and some gentle trading till the "big event" was over.

certainly didnt add to my troubles by adding provs or creating tax collectors. In the end holding on through it was a lot easier than i thought. definatly easier than china's ming dynasty event and russia's time of troubles

no its payback time for dehli mwah ha ha ha

 

[Peter Ebbesen]

The Timurids are one of the countries most helped by the modifications to the unhappy peasantry events in 1.05. No more +3 or +5 to the revolt risk for the remaining decades of the disintegration (and boy, did they add up pre 1.05), instead you get a a single clean stab hit each time.

 

[unmerged(9347)]

Originally posted by Peter Ebbesen
The Timurids are one of the countries most helped by the modifications to the unhappy peasantry events in 1.05. No more +3 or +5 to the revolt risk for the remaining decades of the disintegration (and boy, did they add up pre 1.05), instead you get a a single clean stab hit each time.

lol let' hope it's not a stab to the heart

 

[unmerged(9081)]

now I must ask, where do you check your actual BB points?

 

[Araanor]

Timurids get ripped apart in 1.05... computer isn't good at handling them.

 

[kurtbrian]

open your save file using notepad and then search for babdoy until you reach your own tag

Sweden --> swe

and then it would say something like badboy = 123

or you could download EU-reader
do a search on Jos theelen and follow the link in his sig

 

[kurtbrian]

Originally posted by Araanor
Timurids get ripped apart in 1.05... computer isn't good at handling them.

In my games they were always ripped apart...

 

[Araanor]

Annexed?

 

[kurtbrian]

no, defected !

Persia would be HUGE most of the time