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How many seconds does it take for you to run from start date at the full speed unpaused to (start date plus 1 year).

Realising it is highly dependent on computer, it is still interesting to find out how much it varies between players, and how fast (and slow...) it can actually be.

If you want to, please specify whether laptop or desktop and other computer specifications.
 

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For me observing - from 1445 january 1 to 1445 december 31 it took 31 seconds ;)
CPU - i7-3610QM @ 2.30 GHz
RAM - 8gb
GPU - Nvidia 610M 2gb
Windows 8
Laptop Asus
 
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It took me 1 minute and 15 seconds to go from 11 November 1444 to 11 November 1445.
Those two autosaves took rather long.
 

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I tried out some different starts and let the game run for 5 years. I did this using my phone so some seconds could be wrong due to human imperfection. Though it'll give you an idea. I did it in observer mode. Autosaves where disabled.

1444.11.11 -> 1449.11.11 1:57min
1444 -> 1445 0:22s
1445 -> 1446 0:23s
1446 -> 1447 0:24s
1447 -> 1448 0:24s
1448 -> 1449 0:24s

Average: 0:23.4s

1618.05.23 -> 1623.05.23 2:43min
1618 -> 1619 0:34s
1619 -> 1620 0:33s
1620 -> 1621 0:34s
1621 -> 1622 0:32s
1622 -> 1623 0.30s

Average: 0:32.6sec

1792.09.21 -> 1797.09.21 2:29min
1792 -> 1793 0:32s
1793 -> 1794 0:31s
1794 -> 1795 0:31s
1795 -> 1796 0:29s
1796 -> 1797 0:27s

Average: 0.29.8s

Lets say that 1444 is 100% speed. 1618 then runs at ~69% speed and 1792 runs at ~76% speed. I do find it very interesting that the 1618 start runs slower than the 1792 start. Hopefully someone else can do some testing relating to this so in order to get some more results either confirming or denying my testing. I would've expected more of a linear increase as troop counts and boat counts increase. Though I did notice more warring at the 1618 start than at the 1792 one. That might be the real kicker here.

Relevant specifications:
i7 3770k @4.5ghz
8GB Corsair vengance @ 1600mhz
GTX 660ti 2GB @ 986mhz
Kingston SSDNOW V300 120GB as game drive.
 

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Prepare to be jealous.

This speed, man, this speed.

1 year, 1580 for the reason that's where my game was, took a grand total of.... 4 minutes. Exactly.

Microsoft Surface Pro tablet. Core i5 3317.
4GB ram
Graphics card... don't ask.
128GB SSD

Yeah, fear the Surface.
 

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I'm not going to even bother timing it because it takes so long.
 

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Yep, autosaves should be turned off, or set to annual, i.e., time it takes from (the completion of) one autosave to (the initiation of) the next.

So that autosaves do not affect the time.
 
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Lets say that 1444 is 100% speed. 1618 then runs at ~69% speed and 1792 runs at ~76% speed. I do find it very interesting that the 1618 start runs slower than the 1792 start. Hopefully someone else can do some testing relating to this so in order to get some more results either confirming or denying my testing. I would've expected more of a linear increase as troop counts and boat counts increase. Though I did notice more warring at the 1618 start than at the 1792 one. That might be the real kicker here.

Well, assuming you started new historical campaigns in those years from the bookmarks...

1618 has far more colonized provinces, and more nations in contact with each other, than 1444. But plenty of minors still exist.

By 1792, much of Europe has been consolidated, the total number of nations is significantly lower. Makes sense.

It would be interesting to compare the speed in 1444 with the speed in 1644 after 200 years of playing though.
 

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I've done quite a bit of benchmarking in the past, both to benchmark the overclocking of my PC (2.8 ghz -> 4.0 ghz :) ). and to do comparisons of different versions of EU4 to check for slowdowns.

Windows 7 benchmark results - 1579 bookmark, as France.


With all graphics options set to ON: My current average for the years 1583 - 1589 is 34.5 seconds a year.

Turning off all the graphics options reduces this to around 32 seconds a year.

Mac (Hackintosh) benchmark results

My PC is dual-boot Windows and OSX 10.8.5. The OSX is a Hackintosh setup, not real Mac hardware.

Performance in OSX is terrible. The best results I get is around 60 seconds a year - nearly double the time per year - and that's only with all graphics options off.

I don't know to what extent that's just the OSX version of EU4 being slow, and/or whether it's because I am using a Hackintosh not proper Mac hardware and with all the hacks they have to put in to get it to work, there might be some slowdowns.

If there are slowdowns, I think it's related to graphics. Because if I turn all graphics options to Off, the speed is 25% faster on Mac whereas on Windows it only made a 7% difference.

I'd be very interested to hear of benchmark comparisons from Mac users who also have Windows 7 installed in Bootcamp. Penguintopia has already said he'll run such a comparison when he gets his new 3.4ghz iMac this weekend. Doing a comparison like that would show us the exact difference in speed between EU4 Windows and EU4 Mac, and would tell me how whether my Hackintosh has a problem with games/graphics.

My PC hardware
  • OS: Windows 7 SP1 64bit
  • CPU: Intel i7 930 running at 4.0ghz
    • Quad Core, Hyperthreading (8 total threads), overclocked from 2.8ghz stock to 4.0ghz (200 BCLK x 20 multiplier; Turbo Boost disabled.)
  • RAM: 12GB Corsair DDR3 RAM running at 1600mhz
  • Graphics: MSI NVidia GTX 760 2GB
  • Disk: SATA2 SSD
    • Having an SSD does not impact the in-game benchmarks, but it does significantly improves the time it takes to load EU4 and save/load games.
EU4 slowdown between versions

I found that version 1.4.0 was significantly slower than 1.3.2. - around 25% slower. This is mostly because of the Colonial Nations and Observer nations.

Version 1.5.0 is the same speed as 1.4.1 in my tests.


My benchmarking principles

I do all my benchmarking from the 1579 bookmark, as the game gets slower the later in the timeline you are, so I wanted a timing that was representative of a sort of 'average'. 1579 isn't exactly half way through the game, but as many people don't play past 1750 - myself usually included - I felt that 1579 was a good compromise date.

I also don't use Observe mode. I play as France, who are at peace from the 1579 bookmark. Before starting a benchmark, I use the Console to boost Prestige, Stability, do some Harsh Treatment etc to minimise chance of loads of rebellions.

I play as a real nation because I figure that is most representative of a real game with a human player. Arguably this will actually be slightly improving my benchmarks, because if I was in Observe there would be one more nation controlled by the AI.

I will do some 1444 benchmarking later. I'll also try Observe mode to see if that differs much from playing as France.


How I benchmark

Take note of the need to let the game 'warm up' before collecting data:
  1. You should let the game 'warm up' before benchmarking: run the game on Speed 5 for a number of years before you record any times.
    1. I run it for about 3.5 years before I start timing.
    2. Then I benchmark seven years in a row and take an average of those figures.
  2. It's important that you don't record the first few yearly figures you get after starting a new game. They will be much slower.
    1. I get 34-35 seconds a year after the game has run for a few years. But the 'cold' figure - i.e. the figure for the first year after loading EU4 - could be as high as 45 seconds.
    2. That's because it runs much faster once all the game files have reached your filesystem cache, and once regularly accessed data has reached your CPU caches.
  3. My benchmark method:
    1. Load EU4
    2. Autosave off.
    3. Start from 1579 bookmark, or load a save from that point, from where I've already prepared my French nation in terms of Prestige, Stability etc.
    4. Run the game on Speed 5 from 1579 until 1583.01.01, without timing
    5. I pause on 1583.01.01, get the stopwatch ready, then hit Unpause at the same moment I start my stopwatch
    6. I then leave the game running on Speed 5 until end of 1589.
    7. Every time it gets to Jan 1st, I hit the Lap button on my (phone) stopwatch.
 

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The year 1556 took 2 minutes and 10 seconds to complete.

Late 18th century is substantially slower and earlier dates are faster, but I'm not able to time it right now.
 

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My PC is dual-boot Windows and OSX 10.8.5. The OSX is a Hackintosh setup, not real Mac hardware.

Performance in OSX is terrible. The best results I get is around 60 seconds a year - nearly double the time per year - and that's only with all graphics options off.

I don't know to what extent that's just the OSX version of EU4 being slow, and/or whether it's because I am using a Hackintosh not proper Mac hardware and with all the hacks they have to put in to get it to work, there might be some slowdowns.

If there are slowdowns, I think it's related to graphics. Because if I turn all graphics options to Off, the speed is 25% faster on Mac whereas on Windows it only made a 7% difference.

I'd be very interested to hear of benchmark comparisons from Mac users who also have Windows 7 installed in Bootcamp. Penguintopia has already said he'll run such a comparison when he gets his new 3.4ghz iMac this weekend. Doing a comparison like that would show us the exact difference in speed between EU4 Windows and EU4 Mac, and would tell me how whether my Hackintosh has a problem with games/graphics.

I'll give it a look when I get home, but I run on Linux. Does this game use directx or opengl? Directx games tend to struggle outside of the windows environment, a consistent problem with running windows games under WINE in Linux. It would not surprise me if Mac ran into similar issues.
 

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Bloke,

I was wondering if you'd ever noticed a big difference in speed if Fog of War was turned off. You can only do this from the console.

On my podunk netbook, fog of war was murderous and turning that off sped up things a bit.

Thanks
 

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I think AKronblad should tell what critieries must be before testing EU4 speed, becouse now everyone runs with different settings
 

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Starting from the basic startdate, spectator mode, no autosaves, measuring with a digital clock: 34 seconds
 

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I have one, a decently powerful one at that. It's just with the Surface I can sit on the couch next to my wife and hold my infant son while playing. For that I'll gladly sacrifice the speed :)

I played on my desktop first, so when I tried to play on my laptop and the resolution got so much smaller and the speed so much slower, I got so frustrated I quit. I can't imagine playing on my asus tablet...