Throne of Heaven

[devil]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
For a long time I haven't read a set of words put togeather so nicely to sound so perfectly funny in the context.

Its not too late, but noone can protect brother sui, not even alesso. How can you protect someone from themselves? :wacko: He seems intend on wasting good gold coins on nothing, 5-6 times we seen him conquer good lands, just to let it rebel away years later... Thats just bad business, Brother Muhammed is very disapointed having such a weak brother, a wise man once said: "The weak shall perish". Surely we now know that is meant for our brother in Bengal. Muhammed would like to volenteer to teach Sui the basics of economy

 

[unmerged(18425)]

My 6-year old son is a good choice. Sure, he doesn't understand English AND he has to get to bed at 20 CET, but he has completed a Sweden 1492-1820 game well and played a few times MP on LAN as Mamelukes, PLUS he would be playing in the same room with me so I could be pretty sure Alvaro and Amzad has an even tighter co-operation in the future.

Thanks, but I have found a slightly better candidate The unsure, instable, infamous RedPhoenix said he is willing to conquer the steppes for me. Well, he is 90% sure anyway.

If for some odd reason Red can't or doesn't want to play, I am afraid your son has to do the job, since I haven't found others

 

[ForzaA]

Thanks

I will continue following the events closelly.

BTW, I have another request, if you would be so kind... leave Bengal some time to build a navy before you go for Alexandria ... or am I already too late?

Bah, Bengal is given way too many opportunities already

 

[Rezag]

I suggest a spell to create a goldmine in a territory. What the alchemist could not do, the brothers can!

Just an outsider proposition for brother FAL gold spell give it 25% change to fail and instead of gold spell creates cats gold mine that is discowered too late when nations treasury is allready full of it causing minor bankrupt (maybe 1/2 the effect of normal bankrupt). That should give some thinking before going for gold mines .

 

[admiral drake]

Just an outsider proposition for brother FAL gold spell give it 25% change to fail and instead of gold spell creates cats gold mine that is discowered too late when nations treasury is allready full of it causing minor bankrupt (maybe 1/2 the effect of normal bankrupt). That should give some thinking before going for gold mines .

nah , infact the negative spell would give certain people much more reason to cast defencive spells to protect there newly formed goldmines

 

[devil]

Bah, Bengal is given way too many opportunities already

Yes Muhammed agrees its time to stop this gold wasting, he must learn whats right and wrong.

 

[BlkbrryTheGreat]

The main source of my "money wasting" (and the signifigant amount of inflation I gained) was the decades long war in India from which I gained nothing. In fact, I haven't managed, despite using all of my manpower in every "serious" war I fought, to win a single war in Asia.....

The fact that my "grand plan", namely siezing the Aztec gold by using Alexandria as a jumping off point, failed miserably as well certainly dosen't help matters.

 

[unmerged(11031)]

Thanks, but I have found a slightly better candidate The unsure, instable, infamous RedPhoenix said he is willing to conquer the steppes for me. Well, he is 90% sure anyway.

If for some odd reason Red can't or doesn't want to play, I am afraid your son has to do the job, since I haven't found others

Hmmm. Brother Red may not be as good a brother as you, which is going to be difficult.

If Brother Byk can't play I suggest we move Brother Sui to his country and merge Bengal with Delhi, since I can't lower inflation, damn naggit.

 

[ForzaA]

Hmmm. Brother Red may not be as good a brother as you, which is going to be difficult.

If Brother Byk can't play I suggest we move Brother Sui to his country and merge Bengal with Delhi, since I can't lower inflation, damn naggit.

with Delhi?

truly, I am the kinder brother, and as such would make the more obvious candidate.
(and if *I* spend the Bengali income, it's better spent, due to my lower inflation )

 

[Peter Ebbesen]

If Brother Byk can't play I suggest we move Brother Sui to his country and merge Bengal with Delhi, since I can't lower inflation, damn naggit.

GM Ruling: No Merging of Nations
Save Through Conquest
- and no artificial in-game sales of the last few provinces allowed -
- nor other underhanded attempts at getting provinces swapped around -
IF YOU WANT LAND, CONQUER IT!​

The GMs really mean it. And we will take steps to punish anybody who attempts to get around it - both buyer and seller. A little in-game swap of some territory through a fake war, fine, but if we are talking about land essential for the health of nations, expect the GMs to scrutinize deals very closely.

 

[Wyvern]

Power Points updated in the first post. Lots to spend this turn folks!


Running total of PowerPoints for each player:

Country       Player         PP's              Spent           Remaining
China          Alesso         59                 0                 59
Chagatai       Alvaro         59                 0                 59
Mataram        Drake          56                 0                 56
Japan          Kraunak        56                 0                 56
Brunei         Muhammed       60                 0                 60
Malacca        Ilyar          56                 0                 56
Vietienne      Gothmog        56                 0                 56
Bengal         Sui-cuf-noc    63                 0                 63
Vijayanagar    Bistami        58                 0                 58
Delhi          Qutb-ud-din    58                 0                 58
Mughals        Amzad          62                 0                 62

Breakdown for last session:

• 56 points assigned to everyone for passage of time - a long session!
• No reported characters killed (correct me if I've missed anyone)
• Amzad +2 for AAR - very nice
• Sui-cuf-noc +6 for AAR - outstanding!
• Muhammed +2 for AAR - nice map :rofl:
• Muhammed +2 assigned by HoP (Hour of Power)
• Bistami +2 assigned by HoP
• Sui-cuf-noc assigned +1 PP by HoP
• Alvaro assigned +3 by HoP
• Qutb-ud-din assigned +2 by HoP
• Alesso assigned +3 PP for owning the Throne of Heaven
• Amzad's total include +4PP's saved over from previous session
• Four quests outstanding/incomplete - no PP's assigned.

 

[Peter Ebbesen]

Skill Points, 1575

Skill Points Awarded, 1575
- based on game play -​

[u][color=yellow]TAG Ruler        D/A/M Change[/color][/u]
VIE Gothmog      3/3/9 +1 ADM
NIP Juv          4/6/5 +1 DIP
BEI Muhammed     3/9/3 +1 DIP
MTR Drake        3/7/5 +1 ADM
BGL Sui-cuf-noc  4/8/3 +1 MIL
DLH Qutb         7/5/3 +1 MIL
VIJ Bistami      6/6/3 +1 MIL
MOG Amzad        6/5/4 +1 ADM
CHG Alvaro       3/6/6 +1 MIL
MLC Ilyar        3/7/5 +1 ADM
CHI Alesso       6/4/5 +1 ADM

Note that since none of you daring devils of destruction knew that stat changes were going to take place beforehand, the GMs have kindly decided not to reduce any stats.... This time... Though we were sorely tempted. In the future, we might. Any stat that is not exercised risks reduction.

Especially, if you stay mostly at peace for a long period of time, expect your MIL skill to take a dive. If you do not intrigue, intimidate, interrogate or interact, it is bye-bye DIP skill.


Note that SUCCESS in your endeavours is not the most important thing, it is the trying. To take a completely hypothetical example, if you build the most magnificent army or navy in the world, but stay at peace for 50 years, expect to lose 1 or 2 MIL points. On the other hand, if you fight nearly continously, even if you lose, expect to gain 1 MIL point (but do not expect to gain anything else )

 

[admiral drake]

Skill Points Awarded, 1575
- based on game play -​

[u][color=yellow]TAG Ruler        D/A/M Change[/color][/u]
VIE Gothmog      3/3/9 +1 ADM
NIP Juv          4/6/5 +1 DIP
BEI Muhammed     3/9/5 +1 DIP
MTR Drake        3/7/5 +1 ADM
BGL Sui-cuf-noc  4/8/3 +1 MIL
DLH Qutb         7/5/3 +1 MIL
VIJ Bistami      6/6/3 +1 MIL
MOG Amzad        6/5/4 +1 ADM
CHG Alvaro       4/7/5 +1 MIL
MLC Ilyar        3/7/5 +1 ADM
CHI Alesso       6/4/5 +1 ADM

muhamed is 3/9/3 not 3/9/5 iirc

 

[Wyvern]

Also introduced this turn to keep you nefarious beings on your toes - the following nations have advanced to the Orthodox tech group:

• Japan
• Vientiene
• Bengal
• Delhi
• Vijayanagar
• Mughals
• Chagatai

Congratulations brothers. Clearly the ideas from the middle east and Russia are filtering through to the benefit of us all.....

 

[Wyvern]

muhamed is 3/9/3 not 3/9/5 iirc

A well spotted typo

 

[admiral drake]

Also introduced this turn to keep you nefarious beings on your toes - the following nations have advanced to the Orthodox tech group:

• Japan
• Vientiene
• Bengal
• Delhi
• Vijayanagar
• Mughals
• Chagatai

Congratulations brothers. Clearly the ideas from the middle east and Russia are filtering through to the benefit of us all.....

can i buy latin ?

mayby me and brunei should get orthodox/latin to , afterall we got merchants all over europe bringing new ideas to the east every day

edit :besides now those guys won't get any neighborsbonus to infra and trade from the rich guys if they move to different techgroup

 

[Wyvern]

Final point of interest for tonight (I think ):

I'll be away this weekend, leaving on Friday, Peter will therefore be doing the bulk of the spell edits this turn.

Please therefore send a copy of your orders to BOTH of us (via email to me - Peter will post his prefered method). I'll do some of the edits before I disapear, Peter will do the rest.

Also as I'm not sure what time I'll be back on Sunday (I hope to be back in plenty of time but you never know), if I'm not around/online, please start without me and China can be AI for a bit.

 

[unmerged(18425)]

Wow, many changes!
So sad I have to miss three sessions...

 

[unmerged(18425)]

Breakdown for last session:

• Amzad +2 for AAR - very nice
• Sui-cuf-noc +6 for AAR - outstanding!
• Muhammed +2 for AAR - nice map :rofl:

10 points for AARs? I thought 5 per session...or was it 5 per 25 year? I am sorry, but I can't remember it I ask the same for the HoP points of course

Now, the way the HoP points are spend does seem to be a bit strange to me. I assumed one could have a clue where the HoP pp's were spend at by reading the HoP, but now I don't understand it at all! Why has Muhammed points and Drake not, for example?
Are they based on the previous session or on the first session?

• Four quests outstanding/incomplete - no PP's assigned.

And what is...this?

 

[unmerged(18425)]

Skill Points Awarded, 1575
- based on game play -​

[u][color=yellow]TAG Ruler        D/A/M Change[/color][/u]
VIE Gothmog      3/3/9 +1 ADM
NIP Juv          4/6/5 +1 DIP
BEI Muhammed     3/9/5 +1 DIP
MTR Drake        3/7/5 +1 ADM
BGL Sui-cuf-noc  4/8/3 +1 MIL
DLH Qutb         7/5/3 +1 MIL
VIJ Bistami      6/6/3 +1 MIL
MOG Amzad        6/5/4 +1 ADM
CHG Alvaro       4/7/5 +1 MIL
MLC Ilyar        3/7/5 +1 ADM
CHI Alesso       6/4/5 +1 ADM

I assume those points have to be added yet, since the old numbers are still the same?
I also have some questions about these skill points awards (a very nice idea by the way! Makes the game more interesting!

I assume the bonus points are based upon behaviour in the last session.
So, to quote:

On the other hand, if you fight nearly continously, even if you lose, expect to gain 1 MIL point (but do not expect to gain anything else )

Then why did the Mughal Empire receive +1 ADM instead of +1 MIL?
On the other hand, why did Muhammed (to pick him again) receive +1 DIP skill, when he interacted almost the least of everyone... (I assume he hasn't send much PM's since he claimed to be AFK a lot...)

Any stat that is not exercised risks reduction.

When will ADM be reduced? When you do not trade? Then the Mughals are in a world of hurt!