Three Mountains 1.24 - need advice on opener

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Different game. Who needs Ming? Lol

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Sorry for spamming, but here is another question:

I know that to convert to another religion, I need to incite religious revolts. I put a missionary on a high development Hindu province but it's not happening. Separatists already spawned on that province once. Do I need to wait until overall separatism modifier is lower than religious modifier? Or is it not working because they are not in a state? Or is it a different reason?


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Sorry for spamming, but here is another question:

I know that to convert to another religion, I need to incite religious revolts. I put a missionary on a high development Hindu province but it's not happening. Separatists already spawned on that province once. Do I need to wait until overall separatism modifier is lower than religious modifier? Or is it not working because they are not in a state? Or is it a different reason?


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Rebels won't change type if their progress is over 30%.
 

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Ah. Thank you both. Man, so much I don't know even after playing for over 1300 hours... That's kinda why I love this game. Lol
 

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Does Zelot Rebel breaking also reset inflation? Or just my religion and stability? I'm very nervous to do this... Never done it before. Tempted to just take the -50 prestige hit.
 

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Does Zelot Rebel breaking also reset inflation? Or just my religion and stability? I'm very nervous to do this... Never done it before. Tempted to just take the -50 prestige hit.

I never checked, I would guess no. Inflation is not so bad, just steal more money from everyone.
It is really about resetting stab and war exhaustion and also dodging the first wave of separatist rebels.

I find prestige in surprisingly short supply this run. But trading 50 prestige for a couple hundred points worth of admin and dip mana? Everytime.
 

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I never checked, I would guess no. Inflation is not so bad, just steal more money from everyone.
It is really about resetting stab and war exhaustion and also dodging the first wave of separatist rebels.

I find prestige in surprisingly short supply this run. But trading 50 prestige for a couple hundred points worth of admin and dip mana? Everytime.

I didn't have any Prestige issues my previous attempt. I'll just do that. I already got the first wave of separatists anyways... The only issue is that I already developed Okinawa and got Reinassance, so it will now be a pain to convert... URG... Everything else going perfect though. Have a 25 year old 5/5/3 King that's a scholar and increases colonial growth. Within 2 Dip techs I will get to 7 and discover the new world. Just need to move the capital and pray for Colonialism to spawn. Not sure if Lae can be colonized in time. Will probably need to move capital to India or Philippines first.
 

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Go for Japan and become Shinto it is WAY better in this patch than hindu or any other religion because it opens the door to tributaries (money, manpower, monarch points and more) and amazing benefits if you keep increasing your isolationism level. Ofc you´ll probably have to colonize or kill smaller fish 1st before you can challenge Japan. With that said do NOT expand too much in province count ( unless each individual religion inside your country is < to the Japanese Shinto province count) or else you won´t be able to shift (...)
To put it into perspective Hindu/coptic are absolute sh*t by comparisson with Shinto if you are not a horde or the EoC. Considering that all but one of my WC record runs were done as an Hindu nation that is saying a lot.

I recommend you watch this series as Norway to find out why I reccomend Shinto:

 
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Go for Japan and become Shinto it is WAY better in this patch than hindu or any other religion because it opens the door to tributaries (money, manpower, monarch points and more) and amazing benefits if you keep increasing your isolationism level. Ofc you´ll probably have to colonize or kill smaller fish 1st before you can challenge Japan. With that said do NOT expand too much in province count ( unless each individual religion inside your country is < to the Japanese Shinto province count) or else you won´t be able to shift (...)
To put it into perspective Hindu/coptic are absolute sh*t by comparisson with Shinto if you are not a horde or the EoC. Considering that all but one of my WC record runs were done as an Hindu nation that is saying a lot.

I recommend you watch this series as Norway to find out why I reccomend Shinto:


Tributaries don't count for Three Mountains though. And for Hindu the reduced AE and Core Cost with Shiva is pretty amazing... Would Shinto still be worth it without tributaries?
 

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Tributaries don't count for Three Mountains though. And for Hindu the reduced AE and Core Cost with Shiva is pretty amazing... Would Shinto still be worth it without tributaries?
I did not recommend Shinto because tributaries count for TTM. I recommended it for a host of other reasons (...) and no without tributaries Shinto is crap despite the isolationism amazing modifiers.
 

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BAAAAM!

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Good for you.

Another word of advice: Never trust Ming. Not for anything. They only joined one of my wars early on, where I did not need them. Later they let me down in two coalition wars. And I had only allowed the coalition to form in the first place because I was counting on their protection. In the end they proceeded to support my vassal Ashikaga's independence together with the Ottomans. And that when they were still at full mandate. Luckily they were already colonizing at that point, so while I sieged down Beijing they took Alaska...