Three job weight corrections, code included

[SpreadsheetGamer]

Change #1

Indentured and Domestic slaves are special types of slavery that theoretically allow them to work some specalist jobs. Due to the current weightings, they will displace all other farmers, miners and technicians first, displacing even driods and other slaves, even those who have relevant traits/upgrades (such as Agrarian). The only situation where they will work in applicable specalist stratum jobs is if all farmer + miner + technician jobs are occupied by Indentured or Domestic slaves.

03_worker_jobs.txt, Line 826

modifier = {
            factor = 10
            is_enslaved = yes
            can_take_servant_job = no
        }

Change to:

modifier = {
    factor = 10
    is_enslaved = yes
    can_take_servant_job = no
    OR = {
        has_slavery_type = { type =  slavery_normal }
        has_slavery_type = { type =  slavery_military }
    }
}

Note
The changes also need to be applied to lines 320-324 and lines 166-176 to apply this fix for miners and technicians, respectively.



Change #2

The Syncretic Evolution origin grants a second species, and as slaves they have an abnormally high weight towards farming in particular. They will displace all other farmers, regardless of their own slavery type and regardless of the traits or slavery types of the other possible farmers. This appears to be an unintended repetition of of modifiers.

03_worker_jobs.txt, line 869-872

        modifier = {
            factor = 1.5
            has_trait = trait_syncretic_proles
        }

Delete this code block (see line 853 for duplicate modifier)



Change #3

A biological race that has robots (either through technology or the Mechanist origin) will find their robots will displace any worker in a strategic resource job, such as Mote Harvesting. This can be undesirable if the robot is better suited to a specific worker job such as farming or mining due to upgrades.

If a robot has a specialisation upgrade, it may be appropriate to reduce the job weighting for strategic resource jobs to allow other non-specalist robots or biologicals to take the job instead.

03_worker_jobs.txt, line 668 add the following modifier

modifier = {
    factor = 0.1
    OR = {
        has_trait = trait_robot_harvesters
        has_trait = trait_robot_propaganda_machines
        has_trait = trait_robot_domestic_protocols
        has_trait = trait_robot_superconductive
        has_trait = trait_robot_power_drills
        has_trait = trait_robot_emotion_emulators
        has_trait = trait_robot_logic_engines
    }
}

Note
This modifier also needs to be added after lines 558 and 451 to apply to Gas and Crystal jobs, respectively.


Big thanks to @abregado for taking the time to examine my bug reports, as well as coming up with these solutions and testing them. Unfortunately the bug reports are so old they don't seem to gather any traction on the bug report forum, but they are all still a problem in the current version of the game. These changes will probably help the AI with their economy, which is a nice bonus. Hopefully we can get some attention drawn to these easily fixable issues here.

 

[Stardance]

I’ve seen the displacement the robots do (addressed in change #3) in version 3.02, so I can confirm that one is happening. I didn’t realize it was a job weight issue. My robots had traits for +5% all productivity, so it didn’t impact my game much.

 

[Oculument]

Thanks! I'm adding these to my custom mod that collects fixes like this.

 

[Don_Quigleone]

Another error for technicians:
modifier = { factor = 8 is_enslaved = yes can_take_servant_job = no NOR = { has_trait = trait_syncretic_proles has_trait = trait_nuumismatic_administration has_trait = trait_robot_superconductive has_trait = trait_ingenious }

Normally enslaved pops have higher priority for worker tier jobs. For technicians, this is not the case if you have the "ingenious" trait (which increases energy production). The NOR items should either be entirely removed, or replaced with an "OR".

 

[Oculument]

Change #3

A biological race that has robots (either through technology or the Mechanist origin) will find their robots will displace any worker in a strategic resource job, such as Mote Harvesting. This can be undesirable if the robot is better suited to a specific worker job such as farming or mining due to upgrades.

If a robot has a specialisation upgrade, it may be appropriate to reduce the job weighting for strategic resource jobs to allow other non-specalist robots or biologicals to take the job instead.

03_worker_jobs.txt, line 668 add the following modifier

modifier = {
    factor = 0.1
    OR = {
        has_trait = trait_robot_harvesters
        has_trait = trait_robot_propaganda_machines
        has_trait = trait_robot_domestic_protocols
        has_trait = trait_robot_superconductive
        has_trait = trait_robot_power_drills
        has_trait = trait_robot_emotion_emulators
        has_trait = trait_robot_logic_engines
    }
}

Note
This modifier also needs to be added after lines 558 and 451 to apply to Gas and Crystal jobs, respectively.

Regarding change 3, I usually avoid researching droid technology so this other block of code fires:

modifier = {
            factor = 200
            OR = {
                is_non_sapient_robot = yes
                is_shackled_robot = yes
            }
            can_take_servant_job = no
            owner = { NOT = { has_technology = tech_droid_workers } }

I think your suggested change will result in no effect for nonsapient robots, because factor 200 is so large.

 

[SpreadsheetGamer]

Normally enslaved pops have higher priority for worker tier jobs. For technicians, this is not the case if you have the "ingenious" trait (which increases energy production). The NOR items should either be entirely removed, or replaced with an "OR".

Something does seem off there, but I'm not sure it has any bad consequences. If an ingenious slave will take a mining or farming job over a technican job, then I would agree that it needs attention. Can someone verify that with a screenshot of the job priorities?

 

[Oculument]

Something does seem off there, but I'm not sure it has any bad consequences. If an ingenious slave will take a mining or farming job over a technican job, then I would agree that it needs attention. Can someone verify that with a screenshot of the job priorities?

No screenshot handy, but I've seen it happen everytime. The presence of the NOR is also unusual, its the only one and it looks like a typo error. User WealthyAardvark made a post on r/Stellaris about it an presumably the same username here filed a bug report on it. It was his post that prompted me to start my own collection of fixes in a custom mod. His technician priority fix is in the Airphaos Unofficial Patch mod.

 

[SpreadsheetGamer]

On the topic of mods, is there a mod that addresses this stuff that is also ironman compatible?

 

[Morfane]

No screenshot handy, but I've seen it happen everytime. The presence of the NOR is also unusual, its the only one and it looks like a typo error. User WealthyAardvark made a post on r/Stellaris about it an presumably the same username here filed a bug report on it. It was his post that prompted me to start my own collection of fixes in a custom mod. His technician priority fix is in the Airphaos Unofficial Patch mod.

Does this mod have a link handy, by chance?

 

[Oculument]

On the topic of mods, is there a mod that addresses this stuff that is also ironman compatible?

I think by definition of what Ironman mode is, there could not be. We are changing the gameplay here.

 

[SpreadsheetGamer]

I think your suggested change will result in no effect for nonsapient robots, because factor 200 is so large.

What it will do is allow a non-specalised robot to take the job. In the absence of a non-specalised robot, would you prefer a robot or a bio to take the job? That's not easy to answer for me because it depends on habitability and happiness. Given it is a worker stratum job, I would generally prefer a robot. As a min-maxer, I would eventually upgrade all my non-specalised robots to have efficient processors.

 

[Oculument]

Does this mod have a link handy, by chance?

Steam Workshop::~~Ariphaos Unofficial Patch (3.7)

steamcommunity.com

 

[SpreadsheetGamer]

I'm loath to do this, but hey @MrFreake_PDX this is my last attempt at getting these bugs fixed. I know there's a lot going on right now (as always) but I've spelled out the bugs and solutions, we have tested the solutions and they seem robust, so this is as easy as I can make it. Is there anything you can do to help? I haven't played Stellaris since January because of these bugs.

 

[YokoZar]

Something does seem off there, but I'm not sure it has any bad consequences. If an ingenious slave will take a mining or farming job over a technican job, then I would agree that it needs attention. Can someone verify that with a screenshot of the job priorities?

Bug report for this, with appropriate fixes

 

[Faeelin]

This explains a lot about how messed up the optimization in my slaver game was. Looking forward to seeing this post made again in 2 years..

 

[SpreadsheetGamer]

So in 3.0.3, criminal jobs are also broken due to job weightings. Criminal jobs are often not filled at all, and if they are, you can avoid that by prioritising other jobs. I wonder if this will be the straw that breaks the camels back, convincing Paradox that job weights needs attention. All the bugs listed above are still in effect.