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SaunteringLion

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I'm mostly fine with the way defensive pacts work overall right now, but one thing that seems confusing to me is the way threat ratchets up for certain causes.

At present, I'm playing as the Byzantine Empire and have restored the five holy sites through Holy Wars against Muslims. It makes perfect sense to me that this would cause Islamic nations to band together in order to defend the fact that a powerful Christian neighbour is waging war against them.

My issue is that while that makes sense, a single holy war causes something like 44% threat, which is a general marker. So Christian nations are also in a large defensive pact, despite the fact that my territorial acquisitions from these Holy Wars are fairly small and against a group they tend to butt heads with.

TL;DR: De Jure claims feel like they're in a decent spot, but the threat caused by Holy War seems out of proportion for religious groups that weren't Holy Warred against.
 
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That's a pure gameplay matter over roleplay. Holy wars are the most reliable way to become bloated. They likely had a large affect on how much threat a ducal CB generates. Also threat is partially determined by your preexisting size which is quite large for the Byz.
 
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Without a doubt.

The reason it's so high with same faith Kingdoms/Republics is because threat is a hard number based on your character. Threat is always X% based of your actions, rather than X% / faith / distance* or some other formula. It's an intentional, as infernalbargain points out, a limiting consideration for players.
 
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Except it Kinda isn't when you can just ignore it by the time it becomes a problem and assault-rush whatever your conquering.
 
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