A very important Bug is missing:
Thrace starts
allied with Macedon.
But historically,
Lysimachos remined neutral and sided with Cassander only in 302 BC. Thrace should have an
event like Egypt and Seleukids demanding
land in exchange for peace form
Antigonids.
If
Antigonus agrees,
Thrace should get all
Phrygian land in the
Asia and
Bithynia regions (the area that
Lysimachos conquered historically).
Somewhat subjective, but Lysimachus is probably too old at game start. It is generally accepted that he was born in 355 or 356, which makes him about 5 years to old in game.
Is it?
All primary sources state he died in 281 BC at the age of 80 (born about 361 BC) OR 70 (born about 351 BC). The 355 or 356 dates are a
speculation by modern historians who assume
both numbers are
rounded up OR
down and he was
actually about 75 years old.
You have Adeia(245) married to (240) while she was married to Lysimachus' brother who is (244).
In addition to this, she should probably be
much younger (25 to 35).
Reason: It’s known that she had
children with Autolykos. Their names and precise number is unknown. With the current age (50 at start) the only way would be scripting some
made-up characters as their children. But if she’s made younger, they could
get children the natural way after the start date. As her
historical birth year is
unknown, there’s nothing wrong with making it whatever is
best for gameplay.
Alexandros(263) is part of the family but not listed as Lysimachus' son, he should have (41) father but no listed mother.
But why no mother? She is known, her name was
Macris, an
Odryisan concubine (similar to
Ptolemy’s children with Thais). She should probably have high
Charisma and could be
rival with Nikaia.
Also, in every start I get two extra sons for Lysimachus who did not exist, they are not in the Thrake setup file, are they just random generated?
They
are random, because there are
not enough family members (
Lysimachos himself, 2 sons and 1 brother). The game spawns additional ones in order to reach the necessary number.
There’s a
similar problem with the
Attlids if
Pergamon gets released. We have
proposed a solution for them and in this case it should be similar.
These
three living male family members are currently absent and should be
added to make the game stop spawning random ones:
The descendants of Lysimachos’ older brother Alkimachus (who has apparently died before 319 BC) are also missing: his sons
Alkimachos jr, and
Philippos and his grandson Lysippus.
- Alkimachus. Perhaps he should have the Benefactor or Founder trait (because he was honoured in some inscriptions)?
- Lysippus was apparently later a diplomat on the island of Ios. He was probably still a child in 450 AVC, but could have high charisma to reflect his future career.
- Nothing is known about Philipp except his name. Probably low to medium stats, no exceptional traits.
In addition to the living,
5 dead family members should be added as well. (In order to
establish an in-game relationship between the living ones and
explain the origin of the Surname Alkimachid). Arguably, they all can be in
Macedon as they died before
Lysimachos proclamed himself an
independent ruler.
Brothers of Lysimachos:
- Alkimachos, the oldest brother (judging by his career, decent Charisma, Civic and Martial stats, some positive traits). He seems to have died some when between 334 BC (last mentioned as alive) and about 319 BC.
- Philippos, the youngest of 4 brothers. Died about 328 BC of exhaustion in Sogdiana.
Their parents:
- Agathocles. He should have silver-tongued and Shrewd traits because he rose to prominence by flattering and befriending Philipp II
- Arsinoe. The only thing known about her is that she was Thessalian.
Grandfather of
Lysimachos and his brothers, Father of
Agathocles and namesake of the
Alkimachid family:
- Alkimachos, a low-born thessalian peasant.
Obviously
all the men should have
Thessalian culture and the
bloodline trait.
