Thoughts on plan?

[Heruure]

So, once the game comes me and a friend will be playing MP (Me as Sweden and him as US).
He is planning to be very quiet so i will be getting large amounts of lend lease.
With Sweden having taken Denmark, Norway and Soviets, would keeping a very large lend lease naval fleet in the baltic to keep their navies in their ports aswell as my own maginot lines at the Danish/German border and Finnish/Soviet border work to keep them off me?
We have been thinking around 10-15% of US aircraft and ship production going to me with 5-10% of the remaining things he produce?

Do it sound like a good plan or is there something more i should think of?

 

[RMS Gigantic]

I'm the US player in question, and I feel that my side of the plan should be filled in to complete the image being painted here:

Firstly, we're most likely going to end up being fascist, even though we'd ideally rather not be, because we both have plans to wage wars against democracies.

My plan begins from the instant the game starts: I intend to improve relations with Japan as much as I possibly can, and, if there is an option to do such a thing, sign an agreement with Japan that I won't expand any further into Southeast Asia if they don't attack any of my territory, including the Philippines.

Next, I'll begin stockpiling in preparation to wage War Plan Red, but I'll hold off on it until 1940, after France falls and Heruure (Sweden) has taken Norway and Denmark (and, as a result of this, given me control of Greenland and Iceland). The period between the start of the game and 1940 is when I will be "very quiet" and intend to utterly drown Sweden in lend-lease. After I get Iceland and Greenland and France has fallen, I'll call back as many of my lend-lease materials as I can and use my stockpiled supplies to launch an invasion of Canada and take control of the British islands in the Caribbean.

With Japan attacking Britain's possessions in the Pacific, me attacking Britain's dominions in North America, Italy taking Britain's colonies in Africa, and Germany attacking the British Isles, and Sweden taking out anything from the British navy that dares leave port, we figure Great Britain will be pretty powerless to stop any of us.

My invasion plan of Canada calls for mostly a mechanized/armored land invasion with air support, with ships simply preventing blockades of the homeland and stopping reinforcements to the soon-to-be-homeland, while having a comparatively small-scale invasion of the British Caribbean possessions. It is from this that Heruure and I agreed that I should give 15% of my naval production, slightly less as much of my aircraft production, and closer to 10% of my tank production to Sweden, since his main concerns involve control of the waters around him while I'll mostly be fighting the longest-front land war between any two singular countries in human history.

After Britain has been thoroughly disposed of, with her land sliced up and handed out to those who are most interested in it, we have been considering next turning to Russia, with any involvement I have in that theater, if I get involved directly at all, being such where I will give my spoils of war to Japan as we both attack from the eastern side and Germany, Italy, and Sweden attack from the west.

After this (or after the defeat of Britain if we ultimately decide against interfering with Russia), ideally, if these two actions are possible, I would like to switch back into a democratic form of government and re-activate undisturbed isolation as a nation that occupies the entire northern more than two thirds of North America and spans over half of the Earth's surface end-to-end (Iceland to either the Philippines or Guam, depending on if I decide to give the Philippines independence, or if they even want it at that point).

We're extremely excited to see how the post-war landscape looks, and which countries might develop an equivalent to the Cold War.


With all of this data here, how is our war plan?

 

[Caesar15]

Two things

1. Sweden won't be able to defeat the Royal Navy on her own, even with lend leased ships. So US is going to have to directly intervene there.

2. US going fascist will most likely result in civil war as the U.S has a national spirit that makes it hard to sway from democracy. So make sure to factor that just in case.

Also keep in mind you (US) won't be able to send him (Sweden) anything if the Royal Navy is actively fighting you.

 

[RMS Gigantic]

Two things

1. Sweden won't be able to defeat the Royal Navy on her own, even with lend leased ships. So US is going to have to directly intervene there.

2. US going fascist will most likely result in civil war as the U.S has a national spirit that makes it hard to sway from democracy. So make sure to factor that just in case.

Also keep in mind you (US) won't be able to send him (Sweden) anything if the Royal Navy is actively fighting you.

In response to #2, if the War Plan Red tech tree focus path gives me a way to declare war on Great Britain or Canada without changing away from democracy (a strong enough casus belli, war propaganda capable of dramatically easing justification, etc.) then I won't change. Like I said, we'd rather not have to become fascist.

Your first and third points are why I intend to never have a lend-lease agreement with Britain and to get most involved when France falls: I assume that the British Navy might be too tied up desperately fending off Germany to adequately stop the convoys. I welcome more feedback on how this might play out in practice.

With that previously mentioned focus tree in mind, one of the steps towards War Plan Red is to embargo Great Britain, and I wonder how doing that might further affect point #1?

EDIT: Just remembered as well, we're banking on Denmark falling pretty quickly (given the difference between Swedish and Danish strength), and with very little lend-lease assets. After Denmark falls, Greenland should open up as a way for US supplies to reach Sweden, by going around, possibly north of, Iceland, thus staying rather far away from British waters (perhaps excluding Canada, which shouldn't have THAT much of a reason to fight me, at least until the embargoes begin).

 

[GhostKiller01]

I'm the US player in question, and I feel that my side of the plan should be filled in to complete the image being painted here:

Firstly, we're most likely going to end up being fascist, even though we'd ideally rather not be, because we both have plans to wage wars against democracies.

My plan begins from the instant the game starts: I intend to improve relations with Japan as much as I possibly can, and, if there is an option to do such a thing, sign an agreement with Japan that I won't expand any further into Southeast Asia if they don't attack any of my territory, including the Philippines.

Next, I'll begin stockpiling in preparation to wage War Plan Red, but I'll hold off on it until 1940, after France falls and Heruure (Sweden) has taken Norway and Denmark (and, as a result of this, given me control of Greenland and Iceland). The period between the start of the game and 1940 is when I will be "very quiet" and intend to utterly drown Sweden in lend-lease. After I get Iceland and Greenland and France has fallen, I'll call back as many of my lend-lease materials as I can and use my stockpiled supplies to launch an invasion of Canada and take control of the British islands in the Caribbean.

With Japan attacking Britain's possessions in the Pacific, me attacking Britain's dominions in North America, Italy taking Britain's colonies in Africa, and Germany attacking the British Isles, and Sweden taking out anything from the British navy that dares leave port, we figure Great Britain will be pretty powerless to stop any of us.

My invasion plan of Canada calls for mostly a mechanized/armored land invasion with air support, with ships simply preventing blockades of the homeland and stopping reinforcements to the soon-to-be-homeland, while having a comparatively small-scale invasion of the British Caribbean possessions. It is from this that Heruure and I agreed that I should give 15% of my naval production, slightly less as much of my aircraft production, and closer to 10% of my tank production to Sweden, since his main concerns involve control of the waters around him while I'll mostly be fighting the longest-front land war between any two singular countries in human history.

After Britain has been thoroughly disposed of, with her land sliced up and handed out to those who are most interested in it, we have been considering next turning to Russia, with any involvement I have in that theater, if I get involved directly at all, being such where I will give my spoils of war to Japan as we both attack from the eastern side and Germany, Italy, and Sweden attack from the west.

After this (or after the defeat of Britain if we ultimately decide against interfering with Russia), ideally, if these two actions are possible, I would like to switch back into a democratic form of government and re-activate undisturbed isolation as a nation that occupies the entire northern more than two thirds of North America and spans over half of the Earth's surface end-to-end (Iceland to either the Philippines or Guam, depending on if I decide to give the Philippines independence, or if they even want it at that point).

We're extremely excited to see how the post-war landscape looks, and which countries might develop an equivalent to the Cold War.


With all of this data here, how is our war plan?

The "Homeland"... ALL HAIL BRITANNIA!

No, but seriously, get ready for a civil war. Ask Heruure (Sweden) to support the facists in your country to speed up the process. At this point, you can only minimalise the damage that will be dealt in the Second American Civil War. You want a quick and desicive victory in order to prepare for the invasions. I found your territory scale lacking btw. If you want to properly be an American Empire, you need at least all of North America (get that Mexican cheap labour for your empire), as well as take direct control of the Panama Canal. But otherwise, it seems great. Considering how the end game state would look like, there would be two main unified powers by the end of the "Decade of War": Germany-Italy (All of Southern Europe and the UK, as well as Poland, parts or the USSR, the Middle east, and all of Africa) and Scandia-America-Japan (All of North America, Scandinavia, the rest of Europe, parts of the USSR, swaths of Asia, and Oceania). South America could go either way, but despite having similar ideologies, I suspect that your two alliance blocs will be at odds in a real-life scenario as I doubt Nazi Germany would allow a strong power in Europe besides itself, especially within striking distance to Berlin.

 

[RMS Gigantic]

The "Homeland"... ALL HAIL BRITANNIA!

No, but seriously, get ready for a civil war. Ask Heruure (Sweden) to support the facists in your country to speed up the process. At this point, you can only minimalise the damage that will be dealt in the Second American Civil War. You want a quick and desicive victory in order to prepare for the invasions. I found your territory scale lacking btw. If you want to properly be an American Empire, you need at least all of North America (get that Mexican cheap labour for your empire), as well as take direct control of the Panama Canal. But otherwise, it seems great. Considering how the end game state would look like, there would be two main unified powers by the end of the "Decade of War": Germany-Italy (All of Southern Europe and the UK, as well as Poland, parts or the USSR, the Middle east, and all of Africa) and Scandia-America-Japan (All of North America, Scandinavia, the rest of Europe, parts of the USSR, swaths of Asia, and Oceania). South America could go either way, but despite having similar ideologies, I suspect that your two alliance blocs will be at odds in a real-life scenario as I doubt Nazi Germany would allow a strong power in Europe besides itself, especially within striking distance to Berlin.

Great Britain has opposed the United States at virtually every opportunity since its inception, and has only been kissing up to us since World War I because they couldn't win the war otherwise! Even then we weren't full allies to them! They want to stab us in the back after we've sent hundreds of thousands of men to die for the British crown, I just know it!

But seriously,

I suspect that the focus tree should have a way for me to declare war on Great Britain without causing a civil war (given that "War Plan Red" is the end of a focus tree branch), especially considering how iffy the US/British relationship was in 1935, and if so then I'll do whatever it takes to keep the country as unified as I can have it as we fight Great Britain.

The comparatively modest scope of the empire is the result of me primarily wanting to execute War Plan Red first and foremost, and reading that the US offered to buy Greenland in 1946. Iceland is there as well simply because Heruure didn't have a use for it in his empire, and it would make for a great place for me to station ships (to keep my convoys away from British waters as much as possible) and later nukes.

As for the Panama Canal, one of the screenshots of the US in 1935 or 1936 from the developer diary about the USA shows the Panama Canal as already being in direct control of the US at the start of the game, since it's listed as one of the US territories in the right-hand side bar and the Philippines is the only puppet state of the US. Indeed, War Plan Red calls for 40,000 troops to be stationed there, and for the canal to essentially get first pick of supplies. It's effectively at a "defend at all costs" level of importance in the war plan.

As for the alliances, the other reasons for me being so modest in my territorial ambitions are because 1) I might need time to subdue rebellions in Canada and the other territories I acquire, so I'd be far from immediately launching into another war, and 2) I want to avoid becoming the world police, and thus want to minimize foreign entanglements. I'm the one who wants Heruure and myself to be on "Associated Powers" terms rather than "Allied" terms during the war, so I won't get dragged into any fights Heruure picks after the war. Heruure really doesn't like the idea of me becoming so distant after the war ends, even threatening to withhold Greenland and Iceland from me if I don't cooperate with him in some fashion, so we'll see where we end up.

As for Germany not wanting to stop while Scandinavia is out of their reach, that's why Sweden wants to set up a great big Maginot line across Denmark and his western border; one hypothesis we have as to how the post-war landscape might look is that Sweden might land in Scotland as the war gets closer to its end, while Germany invades England, and thus, even after the peace talks, there might end up being a proxy war between Sweden and Germany over British soil, where the victor has a potential way around the "maginot line" that's been built up on land. Thus, the Cold War would form between Scandinavia and Germany, while the US views it as "just another European war."

 

[GhostKiller01]

Great Britain has opposed the United States at virtually every opportunity since its inception, and has only been kissing up to us since World War I because they couldn't win the war otherwise! Even then we weren't full allies to them! They want to stab us in the back after we've sent hundreds of thousands of men to die for the British crown, I just know it!

But seriously,

I suspect that the focus tree should have a way for me to declare war on Great Britain without causing a civil war (given that "War Plan Red" is the end of a focus tree branch), especially considering how iffy the US/British relationship was in 1935, and if so then I'll do whatever it takes to keep the country as unified as I can have it as we fight Great Britain.

The comparatively modest scope of the empire is the result of me primarily wanting to execute War Plan Red first and foremost, and reading that the US offered to buy Greenland in 1946. Iceland is there as well simply because Heruure didn't have a use for it in his empire, and it would make for a great place for me to station ships (to keep my convoys away from British waters as much as possible) and later nukes.

As for the Panama Canal, one of the screenshots of the US in 1935 or 1936 from the developer diary about the USA shows the Panama Canal as already being in direct control of the US at the start of the game, since it's listed as one of the US territories in the right-hand side bar and the Philippines is the only puppet state of the US. Indeed, War Plan Red calls for 40,000 troops to be stationed there, and for the canal to essentially get first pick of supplies. It's effectively at a "defend at all costs" level of importance in the war plan.

As for the alliances, the other reasons for me being so modest in my territorial ambitions are because 1) I might need time to subdue rebellions in Canada and the other territories I acquire, so I'd be far from immediately launching into another war, and 2) I want to avoid becoming the world police, and thus want to minimize foreign entanglements. I'm the one who wants Heruure and myself to be on "Associated Powers" terms rather than "Allied" terms during the war, so I won't get dragged into any fights Heruure picks after the war. Heruure really doesn't like the idea of me becoming so distant after the war ends, even threatening to withhold Greenland and Iceland from me if I don't cooperate with him in some fashion, so we'll see where we end up.

As for Germany not wanting to stop while Scandinavia is out of their reach, that's why Sweden wants to set up a great big Maginot line across Denmark and his western border; one hypothesis we have as to how the post-war landscape might look is that Sweden might land in Scotland as the war gets closer to its end, while Germany invades England, and thus, even after the peace talks, there might end up being a proxy war between Sweden and Germany over British soil, where the victor has a potential way around the "maginot line" that's been built up on land. Thus, the Cold War would form between Scandinavia and Germany, while the US views it as "just another European war."

So you're going for partial isolationism, and using your ally to set up a Northern Empire and then dropping him despite all the investment you've put into him?

 

[Heruure]

I am holding no grand delusion that i can take on UK without US cleaning off the RN first.
My first and foremost plan is to get and fortify all of the nordic countries making it a "northern fortress".
But we dont know how everything is gonna go so after my plan is done i am making plans for the possibile invasion of either Soviets/Germany/UK.
I dont belive i will need direct US help in taking the north but i might have to force his hand if need be.

 

[RMS Gigantic]

So you're going for partial isolationism, and using your ally to set up a Northern Empire and then dropping him despite all the investment you've put into him?

Yup! Like I said, associated powers, not allies. Continuing lend-lease may be possible, though. Ideally, I'd like to reinstate "undisturbed isolationism" as soon as possible. My reasoning is that I'd be too busy handling a third of a continent probably hating me for bombing them silly, thus needing to subdue half of my country's size's worth of rebellions, and I'll probably end up needing to rebuild Canada's infrastructure after the war. With this much of an internal crisis, I need to avoid external conflict, and I can't have a wrench getting tossed into my works just because Germany started shore-bombarding Stockholm, which in turn makes Sweden send me a request for help, the decline of which would cost me the price of violating an alliance.

 

[GhostKiller01]

Yup! Like I said, associated powers, not allies. Continuing lend-lease may be possible, though. Ideally, I'd like to reinstate "undisturbed isolationism" as soon as possible. My reasoning is that I'd be too busy handling a third of a continent probably hating me for bombing them silly, thus needing to subdue half of my country's size's worth of rebellions, and I'll probably end up needing to rebuild Canada's infrastructure after the war. With this much of an internal crisis, I need to avoid conflict, and I can't have a wrench getting tossed into my works just because Germany started shore-bombarding Stockholm, which in turn makes Sweden send me a request for help, the decline of which would cost me the price of violating an alliance.

You could just, you know, officially join the war, but not do shit...

 

[RMS Gigantic]

You could just, you know, officially join the war, but not do shit...

That sounds to me like an invitation for Germany, and any allies it might have made (including Japan, which might see an opportunity to snag the rather poorly defended Philippines) to invade me.

 

[GhostKiller01]

That sounds to me like an invitation for Germany, and any allies it might have made (including Japan, which might see an opportunity to snag the rather poorly defended Philippines) to invade me.

Ideally, you would be the primary ally of Japan, If you can have both Japan and Sweden as Firm Allies, and have the South Americas in non-agression, you place yourself as untouchable from any European, African, or Asian threat. You could, if you want to gain more army/navy/air experience or equipment experience activally participate in their conflicts, but you would not be directly threatened by war unless Germany makes a suicide attack on you by sea, which it won't be able to successfully make as it focuses on raiding.

 

[RMS Gigantic]

Ideally, you would be the primary ally of Japan, If you can have both Japan and Sweden as Firm Allies, and have the South Americas in non-agression, you place yourself as untouchable from any European, African, or Asian threat. You could, if you want to gain more army/navy/air experience or equipment experience activally participate in their conflicts, but you would not be directly threatened by war unless Germany makes a suicide attack on you by sea, which it won't be able to successfully make as it focuses on raiding.

Like I said, in 1935 I want to immediately begin improving relations with Japan. In real life, the 1920's or so was when the US and Japan first started to get a distaste with each other, and the 1930's embargo made it worse. Before those points, as the cherry blossom trees in Washington, D.C. show, we were really good friends. One thought that I had, especially in the early stages of plotting this plan, is that I might end up being closer friends with Japan than with Sweden.

My general thoughts about Europe post-war pretty much match those of the USA up to the early 1900's, and then off and on until World War II: "Europe's going to tear itself apart in conflicts every couple of years, so I'll just sit back and grab some popcorn unless they bring their fight over here."

 

[druebey1]

Like I said, in 1935 I want to immediately begin improving relations with Japan. In real life, the 1920's or so was when the US and Japan first started to get a distaste with each other, and the 1930's embargo made it worse. Before those points, as the cherry blossom trees in Washington, D.C. show, we were really good friends before that point. One thought that I had, especially in the early stages of plotting this plan, is that I might end up being closer friends with Japan than with Sweden.

My general thoughts about Europe post-war pretty much match those of the USA up to the early 1900's, and then off and on until World War II: "Europe's going to tear itself apart in conflicts every couple of years, so I'll just sit back and grab some popcorn unless they bring their fight over here."

Honestly until Pearl Harbor that is what the USA was doing... Pearl Harbor though was a tipping point for all Americans, even though we only declared war against Japan. Had Germany not declared war against us, we would most likely not have declared war until they became problematic for our interests. AS it was Ford motor company was gaining alot of revenue from factories in germany through switerland. Even though they were occupied, they still recieved income from them. Also it would have been easier to just let the Fascists and Soviets attack each other and destroy each other, as the thought process was back then.

Honestly if Japan and Germany had taken out Soviets then took the USA on, the world would be drastically different. Stalin knew the Japanese were going to attack the USA at some point and predicted that the USA was a sleeping giant(cant remember when he told FDR to watch the silent enemy in the East)... Also remember most of our issues with Great Britian stemmed from the earlier wars we had in the 18th century.

The war of 1812(mostly forgotten by most and no longer studied really) was a tipping point for the USA. Along with the Ashtook War where we recieved most of northern maine back. Oregan Treaty(41st parrellel though it would have been better the 43rd as we had major settlements that far up) soured the public opinion. American Mexican war(british supplied both sides but mostly mexico and stationed troops in mexico to prevent capture of areas from americans). American Spanish war(British ex ally and friend was attacked and imperial lands were taken) soured American relations with british. Then you lead into WW1 where the USA was helping rebuild most of the nation and world slowly, until Great Britian decides to create an alliance against Germany and austria. Then in WW1 the American merchants were once again detained on international waters and etc due to embargo, and did not get paid the cargos worth until much after war. Inbetween WW1 and WW2 Great Britain makes a series of treaties limiting the Navies of the known world and superpowers... So Americans once again are treated like Dung in a treaty(WW1, and naval treaties). Then they do the same when declare war on Germany(seizing cargo without permission or warrent other than a country embargo and dont pay for seized goods/materials).

That was how it was until 1935 and how the relations were between American and Great Britain. Think of that next time you consider that if Germany had never declared war against the USA, unless they invaded Great Britain directly... I do not see the USA keeping Germany from taking Soviet Union nor most of Europe. Though I do see the Americans taking China, etc from japan and making life worse on Japan than it already was. Europe would be left be, until It became in the USA interest to attack, and then it would be over faster than it was in real life...

 

[Caesar15]

You're going to be very bored @RMS Gigantic. After you're done with Canada there probably won't be much in the way of partisans to deal with. Hoi4 has less whack-a-mole partisans and more "negative modifiers" kind. So you would just stick a bunch of divisions with MP battalions and you'd be fine.

 

[Deathknight15]

You think too small. I believe the Stars and Stripes would look better with at least a 100 stars...

How can we claim to be the United States of America if there are parts of the Americas that have yet to be freed?

 

[Heruure]

Death, you made me belive my plans for Sweden are too small aswell.
I need to work out a plan to deny either the soviets or Germans the access to the baltic entirely.
We need our Dominium Maris Baltici.
I would most preferably take back rightful Swedish land that the Russians took from us in the Great Northern War!

 

[Deathknight15]

Death, you made me belive my plans for Sweden are too small aswell.
I need to work out a plan to deny either the soviets or Germans the access to the baltic entirely.
We need our Dominium Maris Baltici.
I would most preferably take back rightful Swedish land that the Russians took from us in the Great Northern War!

Still thinking too small! You must establish a North Sea Empire! It is truly the only way honest and hardworking Scandinavians can ever be safe from German, British, and Russian imperialism!

Britain, Ireland, Denmark, Norway, and the entire coastline of the Baltic sea must all be liberated at a minimum!

 

[Heruure]

It all depends on how much i can do within the timespan of the game, with time that shall be mine. First and foremost i must secure the baltic sea as my lake.
Like we call it in Swedish: Östersjön (The Eastern Lake)

 

[RMS Gigantic]

You think too small. I believe the Stars and Stripes would look better with at least a 100 stars...

How can we claim to be the United States of America if there are parts of the Americas that have yet to be freed?

If I just had Canada, Greenland, and Mexico, and converted provinces directly into states, there would be 96 stars on the flag. I propose replacing Mexico's provinces with an equal number of states in the Philippines (which isn't being counted in the "96 stars" figure), since the Philippines has closer to Mexico's population than you might think, and then grant statehood to the US Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, a unified Mariana Islands (Japan permitting, otherwise at least Guam), and American Samoa.


And like I said, I might get more expansionist later, but for that time being I want to give time for the existing territories time to cool down and to be woven into the fabric of American society (unless a foreign power attacks me). During that time, however, I'll likely build up my nuclear arsenal and military technology, just in case.

Bear in mind that the US never behaved like other nations. After World War II, we had a ton of Pacific islands that weren't ours, but rather than adopting them as our own, we gave them to the UN to decide what to do with.

Honestly until Pearl Harbor that is what the USA was doing... Pearl Harbor though was a tipping point for all Americans, even though we only declared war against Japan. Had Germany not declared war against us, we would most likely not have declared war until they became problematic for our interests. AS it was Ford motor company was gaining alot of revenue from factories in germany through switerland. Even though they were occupied, they still recieved income from them. Also it would have been easier to just let the Fascists and Soviets attack each other and destroy each other, as the thought process was back then.

Honestly if Japan and Germany had taken out Soviets then took the USA on, the world would be drastically different. Stalin knew the Japanese were going to attack the USA at some point and predicted that the USA was a sleeping giant(cant remember when he told FDR to watch the silent enemy in the East)... Also remember most of our issues with Great Britian stemmed from the earlier wars we had in the 18th century.

The war of 1812(mostly forgotten by most and no longer studied really) was a tipping point for the USA. Along with the Ashtook War where we recieved most of northern maine back. Oregan Treaty(41st parrellel though it would have been better the 43rd as we had major settlements that far up) soured the public opinion. American Mexican war(british supplied both sides but mostly mexico and stationed troops in mexico to prevent capture of areas from americans). American Spanish war(British ex ally and friend was attacked and imperial lands were taken) soured American relations with british. Then you lead into WW1 where the USA was helping rebuild most of the nation and world slowly, until Great Britian decides to create an alliance against Germany and austria. Then in WW1 the American merchants were once again detained on international waters and etc due to embargo, and did not get paid the cargos worth until much after war. Inbetween WW1 and WW2 Great Britain makes a series of treaties limiting the Navies of the known world and superpowers... So Americans once again are treated like Dung in a treaty(WW1, and naval treaties). Then they do the same when declare war on Germany(seizing cargo without permission or warrent other than a country embargo and dont pay for seized goods/materials).

That was how it was until 1935 and how the relations were between American and Great Britain. Think of that next time you consider that if Germany had never declared war against the USA, unless they invaded Great Britain directly... I do not see the USA keeping Germany from taking Soviet Union nor most of Europe. Though I do see the Americans taking China, etc from japan and making life worse on Japan than it already was. Europe would be left be, until It became in the USA interest to attack, and then it would be over faster than it was in real life...

Indeed, and it was from this anti-British sentiment that War Plan Red also stemmed during the 1930's. It's for this reason that I really, really hope that I can declare war on Great Britain without needing to change government structure. Even in World War I, when the US and Great Britain were at their closest, fighting on the same side in a war for possibly for the first time since the US's creation, we were only "associated powers" instead of allies. We only legitimately trusted each other in 1945 or so, but even then there were all of the events surrounding the Anglo-American War.

You're going to be very bored @RMS Gigantic. After you're done with Canada there probably won't be much in the way of partisans to deal with. Hoi4 has less whack-a-mole partisans and more "negative modifiers" kind. So you would just stick a bunch of divisions with MP battalions and you'd be fine.

Oh, I missed the part about no more whack-a-mole. That's good! Still, I think I'll keep to managing internal affairs until some of those negative modifiers lessen at least somewhat. If I indeed become as bored as you suggest I will, even in the face of the rather interesting post-war prospects, then I'll do something, such as work to reclaim Cuba since by this time Cuba was independent, a former US territory, but not yet communist.