Those Pesky Unbidden

[Oscot]

Mmhmm, Henrik said there's an end-game crisis tied to each research type @ 2:53 in this video:
Don't know whether intergalactic invader is tied to society research, though."

I don't even know what a social-tech induced catastrophe could be. Maybe some kind of meme-poison that spams factional rebellion all over the place? But that might look too similar to the Geth Uprising Crisis. Then again, the Interdimensional Invasion Crisis presumably looks exactly the same as the Extragalactic Not-Tyrranids Invasion Crisis, so maybe a lack of distinctiveness isn't a sufficient criticism to bar it.

Actually, wasn't it a social-technology-induced disaster that rekt one of the good subspecies in First And Last Men? I seem to remember something along the lines of "If your society becomes too utopian it literally causes the gravity of your star to increase so the solar system explodes". (The book was written in 1930, so give the author a break, he was doing his best)

 

[Angelic_Daemon]

I would love for it to appear near where the focal points of the jump activities.
No diplo actions
Be nice if there were some sort of research, but unique to the event.

Might be a dumb question, but can multiple "endgame-events" happen simultaneously? Like: the Unforbidden had arrived, so you trying to gear up yourself when suddenly your AI Robots decide it´s time for some rebellion....
(Sorry for bad english)

Better than most native speakers on the internet.

 

[Exemplar Voss]

I don't even know what a social-tech induced catastrophe could be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink
Also known as Death by Utopia. I also suggest sticking to the wiki overview, as the details get pretty creepy.

 

[Oscot]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink
Also known as Death by Utopia. I also suggest sticking to the wiki overview, as the details get pretty creepy.

Oh yeah, I know about Mouse Paradise.
Not sure that's applicable, though. Mouse Paradise fucks up due to massive overcrowding, which is something you can easily avoid in Stellaris by... not putting everyone on food tiles. It is not an inevitable consequence of high tech; especially if you're running collectivist ethos and are allowed to institute a Chinese One Child Policy on a whim.

 

[nweismuller]

Bear in mind that Biology is contained within Sociology research. Even if you have difficulty imagining a 'sociology' end-game crisis, I suspect imagining one unleashed by biological research is less difficult.

 

[Daetrin]

Or something like Futurama's "Don't date robots!" Find a low-cost substitute for a basic biological underpinning for societies and they'll crumble.

 

[Skyguy98]

Bear in mind that Biology is contained within Sociology research. Even if you have difficulty imagining a 'sociology' end-game crisis, I suspect imagining one unleashed by biological research is less difficult.

that does bring up a good point about the social science, we have seen that it has to do with genetics, so maybe some super disease is released, zombie apocalypse anyone?

 

[GC13]

I know the Society crisis could have something to do with biology, but I'm hoping for a good old-fashioned radical rebellion like in EU4. Your scientists spend all of this time coming up with better ways to motivate your people, and eventually people sit down and look at how they're being motivated and how the empire is being run and realize that they could run things more purely themselves. Cue the massive factional strife, loss of planets, and spread of the rebellion to neighboring empires.

 

[patrikn]

I thought the sociology crisis might have something to do with psionics.

 

[Mitchz95]

I know the Society crisis could have something to do with biology, but I'm hoping for a good old-fashioned radical rebellion like in EU4. Your scientists spend all of this time coming up with better ways to motivate your people, and eventually people sit down and look at how they're being motivated and how the empire is being run and realize that they could run things more purely themselves. Cue the massive factional strife, loss of planets, and spread of the rebellion to neighboring empires.

Sounds a bit like the Horus Heresy. I like it. Not only are you fighting your own civil war, but you're trying to influence the outcome of a dozen others in neighboring empires so that they don't turn on you later.

A total breakdown of diplomacy could tie into it as well. No longer are empires bound by treaties and mutual assistance pacts: it's every empire for themselves, and you never know if a fleet of warships could attack one of your core worlds from an empire that you once considered a friend.

 

[Oscot]

I thought the sociology crisis might have something to do with psionics.

Don't think that could work; you can only go psionic if you're spirtualist (or is that just not materialist?), which would mean anyone else could go as far down the sociobiological rabbithole as they wanted and never get F'd in the A by it.

 

[Madgt123]

Social end game threat?
Before i said the necrons was coming, but now its clearly Slaanesh thats on his way.

 

[Leonick]

Don't think that could work; you can only go psionic if you're spirtualist (or is that just not materialist?), which would mean anyone else could go as far down the sociobiological rabbithole as they wanted and never get F'd in the A by it.

I keep seeing this. Do you know where we know this from? I've seen a screenshot with a Psionic army but that's about it for me.

 

[m4st3rm_]

Oh yeah, I know about Mouse Paradise.
Not sure that's applicable, though. Mouse Paradise fucks up due to massive overcrowding, which is something you can easily avoid in Stellaris by... not putting everyone on food tiles. It is not an inevitable consequence of high tech; especially if you're running collectivist ethos and are allowed to institute a Chinese One Child Policy on a whim.

Besides that, increased wealth, comfort, and education are correlated with lower birth rate- to the point of shrinking populations. Obviously, this could be different with aliens, but with what we've seen so far I doubt Stellaris is going to model population dynamics in that much detail anyway.
With what we've seen I imagine the social disaster will be biological or psionics or something. Or maybe the Borg (not Blorg, hilarious as that would be).

 

[Dark_X2]

In the Perry Rhodan universe there happens some kind of catastrophic event that extremly slows down ftl travel. Something similar happenend in Warhammer 40k where something happened with warp travel.

Both those incidents cut away parts of the empire and isolated them. Many hundred years later those new smaller humanoid nations had to be reconquered.

I could image some kind of social endgame where basically you lose contact with all the universe in some kind of new technological dark age and have to restart finding your lost worlds. This happening to everybody of course, leading to new alliances...

 

[Held der Arbeit]

Don't think that could work; you can only go psionic if you're spirtualist (or is that just not materialist?), which would mean anyone else could go as far down the sociobiological rabbithole as they wanted and never get F'd in the A by it.

As I understood it spiritualists are merely heavily weighted towards drawing these techs (just as materialists are weighted towards AI).

So either the AI singularity is non-spiritualist exclusive (which would make it fair if a psionic catastrophe would be non-materialist exclusive), or it is merely more likely

 

[Summin Cool]

I would very much like a peacekeeper similar to the one in SOTS

 

[patrikn]

Don't think that could work; you can only go psionic if you're spirtualist (or is that just not materialist?), which would mean anyone else could go as far down the sociobiological rabbithole as they wanted and never get F'd in the A by it.

I don't see why this is a problem either. I can down the other research threads without doing any of the dangerous technologies too I assume. Anyway it doesn't really matter if your civilization doesn't trigger it, some other less careful people might.