This Super-Heavy-Fiction Tank is inacceptable!

[pheonicia]

As i said before if you are lacking the basics there is nothing to discuss further with you nor i am responsible for your Education. It´s not mechanical engineering but applied mechanics. You can´t just skip to mechanical engineering without even having a understanding of the basics.

Ah, dodging the question with an insult to my intelligence. Classy.

 

[Commonblob]

Like Bulgaria etc even made superheavy tanks alone. Their industires Barely (if at all) could make light tanks!

Well in HOI4, Bulgaria has the potential to become a superpower....

 

[jumbi]

As i said before if you are lacking the basics there is nothing to discuss further with you nor i am responsible for your Education. It´s not mechanical engineering but applied mechanics. You can´t just skip to mechanical engineering without even having a understanding of the basics.

You might get a warmer reception by explaining your reasoning rather than going to the profiles of people who disagree with parts of your proposal and mass-downvoting their posts in other places. Don't worry about the subject matter being too advanced, people here come from disparate educational and professional backgrounds and even if you don't think you can put things into graspable terms yourself, there will certainly be someone else who can translate. imo Elvain's posts are practically the gold standard of how to do this when connecting real-world complexities with in-game representations (this example is a favourite of mine)

 

[keyframer]

Don't worry about the subject matter being too advanced, people here come from disparate educational and professional backgrounds and even if you don't think you can put things into graspable terms yourself, there will certainly be someone else who can translate.

I don´t even know who you are? What has this all to do with that Topic here? Is there anything from you that is relevant to this Thread?

 

[jumbi]

I don´t even know who you are?

 

[jumbi]

What has this all to do with that Topic here? Is there anything from you that is relevant to this Thread?

Folk have been asking you to explain why you think your requested change should be made and your response has tended to amount to:

As i said before if you are lacking the basics there is nothing to discuss further with you nor i am responsible for your Education. It´s not mechanical engineering but applied mechanics. You can´t just skip to mechanical engineering without even having a understanding of the basics.

Don't be afraid to give details! If you aren't sure how to begin explaining your point, just start with a stream of consciousness. There are plenty of folk here who will be able to give a hand in refining and clarifying your ideas

 

[Zauberelefant]

Of course it has a basis but if you don´t even a have clue about what i´m talking and you obviously lacking for example basics of Material Science&Co. Then this is not my problem.

Y'know, you could mention one specific thing that would support your argument. But you are still waving around authority you simply don't have here....

 

[Zauberelefant]

@keyframer
In my native tongue, we have a set of colourful words for this sort of behaviour, disliking any unrelated posts by people that disagree with your unsubstantiated opinion on another topic.

You did that with @jumbi and myself and lord knows who else.
Since your own behaviour creates a distraction from the topic of OP, I ask @Secret Master to have a word with you about how not to behave.
Have a particularly fine Sunday, Sir!

 

[Louella]

I have a mechanical engineering degree.

 

[Zauberelefant]

I have a mechanical engineering degree.

You forgot *drops mic*

 

[coffeelingfine]

Oh lawd this thread lol

 

[Zauberelefant]

Nice Editing there did you choose that specially or didn´t you miss something of your Friends with which you teamed up since the appearance of this Thread? It´s obvious that you specially choosed that part of it.

How it comes your part of my posts which you specially "respectfully disagreed" is respectfully disappeared



Then please show it us like jumbi but without any editing!



I don´t know who is @Secret Master but i hope he will also have a Word with you since you did nothing else in this Thread then more obviously making post which is totally not related to OP or has anything to do with the title of this Thread.

The amount of your posts shows clearly that you are more interested in posting then anything else.





Well maybe then you can start wasting your time with these folks with starting of the basics of "Applied mechanics" !

@Zauberelefant

It´s the one thing arguing with me in this case or not but an other staying especially in this Topic and trying to prevent any Argument against yours being valuable.

I am still waiting for an answer to my question. Me pointing out your behaviour is sub par is on you, though. Because you could have chosen to support your statement, but you didn't.

 

[keyframer]

have a mechanical engineering degree.

Let´s start then with some really easy basics we don´t even need a degree for that just simple basics of physics:



We don´t even have a Turret here =

- Part 1 is moving (at 30 km/h) and weighs for example 50t
- Part 2 is more something that is securing the connection between Part 1 and Part 3 and weighs for example 2t
- Part 3 weighs 15t and it´s stuck and it´s tracks are not moving.

A simple Question here would be how many Force is applied to Part 2 and Part 3 and how much these can handle it? (notice here please we don´t even really go to applied mechanics or even material science).

 

[Zauberelefant]

Let´s start then with some really easy basics we don´t even need a degree for that just simple basics of physics:

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We don´t even have a Turret here =

- Part 1 is moving (at 30 km/h) and weighs for example 50t
- Part 2 is more something that is securing the connection between Part 1 and Part 3 and weighs for example 2t
- Part 3 weighs 15t and it´s stuck and it´s tracks are not moving.

A simple Question here would be how many Force is applied to Part 2 and Part 3 and how much these can handle it? (notice here please we don´t even really go to applied mechanics or even material science).

So, you say that the front gets stuck and the rest keeps moving....

How about the front is controlling the movement of the entire thing? Trains don't get crushed when the locomotive is braking, y'know? Neither get trucks. There is such a thing as steering on multi-component vehicles.

You demonstrated your knowledge in applied mechanics just fine. Please stop.

And another thing: you should not accuse people of "editing" what's on their reaction feed. It's an utterly stupid thing to do, especially when already called out for it.

 

[keyframer]

There is such a thing as steering on multi-component vehicles.

Do you even have clue what you are talking there?

Please stop.

This.

 

[pheonicia]

Let´s start then with some really easy basics we don´t even need a degree for that just simple basics of physics:

View attachment 639981

We don´t even have a Turret here =

- Part 1 is moving (at 30 km/h) and weighs for example 50t
- Part 2 is more something that is securing the connection between Part 1 and Part 3 and weighs for example 2t
- Part 3 weighs 15t and it´s stuck and it´s tracks are not moving.

A simple Question here would be how many Force is applied to Part 2 and Part 3 and how much these can handle it? (notice here please we don´t even really go to applied mechanics or even material science).

Phhh hahahaha! 30km/h??? What superheavy tank imaginable (real or fictional) could possibly make those speeds? Even the maus only had a top speed estimated around 18 to 20 km/h. In game super heavys are slower than foot infantry at something like 4 km/h. Did you honestly not do even a basic wikipedia check before deciding on those numbers?

Edit:

I have a mechanical engineering degree.

Don't worry bro, I'm going to have to call the graduate department at my university to tell them I'm dropping out because a rando on the internet implied I was too dumb for a master's in mechanical engineering (with a focus on materials science).

 

[keyframer]

Phhh hahahaha! 30km/h??? What superheavy tank imaginable (real or fictional) could possibly make those speeds? Even the maus only had a top speed estimated around 18 to 20 km/h. In game super heavys are slower than foot infantry at something like 4 km/h. Did you honestly not do even a basic wikipedia check before deciding on those numbers?

It is just a example for simple calculation but you can do that on your own with 10 km/h if your not lacking basic of physics. The most Super-Heavy-Tanks ingame also weighs more then 100t but on my example we even don´t reach these numbers.

There is not a need for checking "Wikipedia" when you even don´t have the understanding of my example. We are not talking here about the authenticity of these Numbers, moreover it´s pretty obvious that Part 1 must be in higher Weight then Part 2/3 and how it works together or if it can is the question here.

 

[Yanotoshi]

Beside the technical questions (I think it isn't explained sufficiently here), I don't like the design as well. There are funny designs around multi turret tanks from the 30's, especially from Japan and USSR.
If you are looking for a 'special' design, look at those tanks, use your Photoshop and add a little here and take away something there.
Done.
Regarding the convoy question, the effect of those ingame reminds me on the German 'Handelskreuzer'. I think it would be a good idea to split convoys into two classes, the unarmed ships and armed military convoys, which you can fit in the ship designer. Especially here, the use of multipurpose guns make a lot of sense.

 

[Zauberelefant]

It is just a example for simple calculation but you can do that on your own with 10 km/h if your not lacking basic of physics. The most Super-Heavy-Tanks ingame also weighs more then 100t but on my example we even don´t reach these numbers.

There is not a need for checking "Wikipedia" when you even don´t have the understanding of my example. We are not talking here about the authenticity of these Numbers, moreover it´s pretty obvious that Part 1 must be in higher Weight then Part 2/3 and how it works together or if it can is the question here.

As I see hundreds of times on highways, small semi trucks can somehow, magically pull 24t containers without death to everyone involved.
Trains have thousands of tons sitting behind an engine. But trains are viable.

And trust me, my Dunning-Kruger-adolating friend, that thing in the pictures is silly, it's needlessly complicated, I wouldn't build it,

BUT WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL WORK OR FAIL CANNOT BE DETERMINED FROM ONE SMALL PICTURE ALONE.

YOU KNOW JACK ABOUT ENGINES, STEERING, BRAKES AND THE CONNECTING ROD SYSTEM ON THAT THING BUT ARGUE LIKE YOU HAVE SEEN THE LIVE EXAMPLE.

This makes it hard to have a meaningful debate with you here, because all you have as an argument is how you imagine how dumb that would be designed.
This is strawmanning a third, fictional party, and there really is no way to discuss this.

Now, if you would kindly retract the dislikes you spent half an hour spreading in non related threads to people, we can return to standard forum behaviour?
I mean, it's not like that toxic behaviour of yours is making anyone look bad but you.

 

[Simone87]

Now, if you would kindly retract the dislikes you spent half an hour spreading in non related threads to people, we can return to standard forum behaviour?
I mean, it's not like that toxic behaviour of yours is making anyone look bad but you.

And I thought I was the only to have received fair and unbiased reactions to my posts from that user lol I bet he spent more than half an hour for his accurate reviews then

Besides that, this thread is something hilarious.