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Even that wouldn't really make any sense. The Golden Horde was always dominated by power struggles from within. Claiming to be the complete Horde (which would descend from the original generation of Mongol conquerors) is a big deal.
 

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Even that wouldn't really make any sense. The Golden Horde was always dominated by power struggles from within. Claiming to be the complete Horde (which would descend from the original generation of Mongol conquerors) is a big deal.

What name do you suggest?
 

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You want to rename the GH to just 'Golden'? Uhhh... :confused:

In all seriousness, the English word 'Horde' comes from the Mongol word for 'army' or 'Ordu'. The 'golden' part of the name refers to one of the Turkic cardinal directions, which they referred to by colour. East was blue, west was white, and the centre is gold. The Golden Horde was a mongol state formed after the division of the Mongol empire into four territories. The name is nothing to do with their type of government.

For me is a weak Indian Empire.UK smashed them!

Uh, UK didn't smash the Mughals. The Marathas did, and then the Persians and Afghans gobbled up the remains. And the last parts of Imperial rule were destroyed by the Sikhs (under British command) during the 1857 rebellion.

The Mughals certainly weren't weak either. They were far stronger than the Golden Horde ever was.
 

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Cold war :ninja:
Didn't it just... end? Russia released some vassals, lost infamy, and there was no more dishonourable scum CB for the USA to keep warring with Russia. (The Cold War must have been a series of disconnected wars, just like the HYW.)
 

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Didn't it just... end? Russia released some vassals, lost infamy, and there was no more dishonourable scum CB for the USA to keep warring with Russia. (The Cold War must have been a series of disconnected wars, just like the HYW.)

but Russia lost and enter in economic depression.
 

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The Country Formerly Known As Golden Horde
 

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Its simple.

Golden Horde comes from Zolotaya Orda.

Horde today has a different meaning, which is probably inspired by this name, than what Russian version Orda does.

Orda *should* be a word for a nomadic tent/yurt, and it was used because GH's khans or whatever, used to camp in a gilded tent/yurt, so impressed by this, Russians referred to them as such "Zolotaya Orda" literally meaning Golden Tent.

So if they are no longer horde, leave Golden Orda or something like that.

Or perhaps Steppe Sultanate?
 

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For me is a weak Indian Empire.UK smashed them!
Aurangzeb actually defeated the British East India Company decisively during his reign. Also are u forgetting about Nazi Germany smashing UK so hard that it took 60 years for them repay the loan to US. Does that make the British unimportant & weak? I don't think so. Every civilization reaches its zenith & after that it falls. (and long forgotten in some cases)
 
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Please EU4 team,when the Golden Horde convert to a nomal nation,make him change his name to Golden Khaliphate,or only to Golden.Because a Golden Horde without being a horde is strange.

'Golden' sounds bad. Kipchak sultanate would be weird, since it's not age of nationalism yet, and there was plenty of different peoples on the steppes. Quite hard to name it after geographical placement. Maybe 'Sultanate of Volga', or 'Sultanate of Sarai' after capital city? Best way, I think, would be to name it after ruling dynasty if it reforms to sedentary sultanate. Such naming system exists in CK2 IIRC.
 

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Didn't Europe and USA enter economic depression as well, if somewhat delayed? You could say China smashed them all then.

Yup,now it's time to China Crush USA.

"Made in China" are in more places than "I love you"
 

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Worth pointing out that the Horde is actually shattered into several rather large parts in the EU4 start date (the remnants of the Golden Horde, the Crimea Khanate, and the Kazan Khanate), with the Astrakhan Khanate and the Sibir Khanate soon to emerge from the remnants of the Horde. Maybe a "Reform Golden Horde" decision would be in order.
 

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Worth pointing out that the Horde is actually shattered into several rather large parts in the EU4 start date (the remnants of the Golden Horde, the Crimea Khanate, and the Kazan Khanate), with the Astrakhan Khanate and the Sibir Khanate soon to emerge from the remnants of the Horde. Maybe a "Reform Golden Horde" decision would be in order.

Reform?Good idea,but Reform to?
 
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