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I'm playing as Austria, 1399 start, and it's going really, really well. First thing I did was force a PU on Bavaria in like 1401, because they start without an heir. They weren't allied with anyone of significance so the war went fast. I had the Claims in Northern Italy mission, but I noticed Milan was allied with Burgundy, and I didn't want to fight them, so I waited a bit, hoping that they would break their alliance soon. Well, my first lucky break, England declared war on Burgundy, which dragged Milan in as well. England occupied all of Milan and then made peace and only made them release Parma and break their alliance with Burgundy. I immediately conquered the area with very little trouble.

All this time I'm constantly spreading the Habsburgs around Europe. I married pretty much the entire HRE and any one else of any significance around Europe. Second lucky break, Sicily randomly becomes a PU partner. Sicily is kind of useless for Austria, but still, it's a PU partner, and if I inherit, I'd just release as a vassal and have a useful spot in the Mediterranean to stop off at when I eventually have a navy.

After the Northern Italy mission, I get the mission to become the emperor. I was already trying, so it didn't really matter. I got all the electors to 200 relations and I just waited for a while, built constables, etc. I had a few minor wars while waiting. Anyways, when I eventually became emperor, almost immediately after Brandenburg got into a PU with me.

After that bit of luck, I just followed CBs, warred with Denmark, Hungary, Burgundy, and managed to vassalize a couple of the electors to ensure my continued emperor position. I actually lost the war with Burgundy because I didn't have a good way to position my troops and I ended up losing my entire army when Burgundy got really lucky and wiped them out. I ended up paying them a bit of money, but it wasn't a huge loss.

After a while I got the vassalize Burgundy mission, so I started to build my troops up from 30k to around 50k. My finances were taking quite a hit with all the extra troops I built, and just when I was thinking about how nice inheriting Bavaria and Brandenburg would be, it happened and then my financing went from losing 10 per year to making something like 60 per year at full maintenance.

I started to look at Burgundy and for some sort of opening, but they were allied with France so it was pretty much pointless to even think about it. I had 73k troops, and France had 72k, but Burgundy had like 55k, so together there was no real way to win. Then I randomly got Brabant in to a PU, which is ridiculous. Three peaceful PUs and it was only like 1440. The only throne I ever claimed was Bavaria at the start of the game.

Brabant is pretty much pointless against Burgundy, but it might be a good distraction so I could attack the south. While I was thinking about this, I was also getting my relations up with France. I offered France an alliance on Very Unlikely and they accepted. This caused the AI to rethink their alliance with Burgundy, so they cancelled their alliance with them, for no reason as far as I can tell.

So now I have France on my side (very likely to join the war against Burgundy), I have Brabant as a good distraction, Castille asked me for an alliance, which is amazing because Burgundy is allied with Aragon, and I have a ton of vassals all around the HRE. The game literally went from Austria and the HRE versus Burgundy and France to everyone pile up on Burgundy. I can't lose. It's only like 1450 too.

Sorry for the long post, but this game is ridiculously lucky with the peaceful PUs and all the tough alliance blocks breaking right when I want them to. I'll take screenshots tomorrow and post them.
 

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Always feels like Austria just plain gets bonuses to forming PUs. I formed a PU with a player France in a multiplayer game, and had Hapsburgs in pretty much every human controlled kingdom. It was ridiculous.

Needless to say, France was pissed off, so a cold war ensued for the better part of 50 years while he contemplated declaring war out of the PU while I wouldn't release him until he would agree to not step all over the HRE.

Then my king died, and they got out without a fight. It was intense, and so anti-climactic. Teutonic Order kept asking me 'so when are we fighting the French again?'.
 

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I'm playing as Austria, 1399 start, and it's going really, really well. First thing I did was force a PU on Bavaria in like 1401, because they start without an heir. They weren't allied with anyone of significance so the war went fast. I had the Claims in Northern Italy mission, but I noticed Milan was allied with Burgundy, and I didn't want to fight them, so I waited a bit, hoping that they would break their alliance soon. Well, my first lucky break, England declared war on Burgundy, which dragged Milan in as well. England occupied all of Milan and then made peace and only made them release Parma and break their alliance with Burgundy. I immediately conquered the area with very little trouble.

All this time I'm constantly spreading the Habsburgs around Europe. I married pretty much the entire HRE and any one else of any significance around Europe. Second lucky break, Sicily randomly becomes a PU partner. Sicily is kind of useless for Austria, but still, it's a PU partner, and if I inherit, I'd just release as a vassal and have a useful spot in the Mediterranean to stop off at when I eventually have a navy.

After the Northern Italy mission, I get the mission to become the emperor. I was already trying, so it didn't really matter. I got all the electors to 200 relations and I just waited for a while, built constables, etc. I had a few minor wars while waiting. Anyways, when I eventually became emperor, almost immediately after Brandenburg got into a PU with me.

After that bit of luck, I just followed CBs, warred with Denmark, Hungary, Burgundy, and managed to vassalize a couple of the electors to ensure my continued emperor position. I actually lost the war with Burgundy because I didn't have a good way to position my troops and I ended up losing my entire army when Burgundy got really lucky and wiped them out. I ended up paying them a bit of money, but it wasn't a huge loss.

After a while I got the vassalize Burgundy mission, so I started to build my troops up from 30k to around 50k. My finances were taking quite a hit with all the extra troops I built, and just when I was thinking about how nice inheriting Bavaria and Brandenburg would be, it happened and then my financing went from losing 10 per year to making something like 60 per year at full maintenance.

I started to look at Burgundy and for some sort of opening, but they were allied with France so it was pretty much pointless to even think about it. I had 73k troops, and France had 72k, but Burgundy had like 55k, so together there was no real way to win. Then I randomly got Brabant in to a PU, which is ridiculous. Three peaceful PUs and it was only like 1440. The only throne I ever claimed was Bavaria at the start of the game.

Brabant is pretty much pointless against Burgundy, but it might be a good distraction so I could attack the south. While I was thinking about this, I was also getting my relations up with France. I offered France an alliance on Very Unlikely and they accepted. This caused the AI to rethink their alliance with Burgundy, so they cancelled their alliance with them, for no reason as far as I can tell.

So now I have France on my side (very likely to join the war against Burgundy), I have Brabant as a good distraction, Castille asked me for an alliance, which is amazing because Burgundy is allied with Aragon, and I have a ton of vassals all around the HRE. The game literally went from Austria and the HRE versus Burgundy and France to everyone pile up on Burgundy. I can't lose. It's only like 1450 too.

Sorry for the long post, but this game is ridiculously lucky with the peaceful PUs and all the tough alliance blocks breaking right when I want them to. I'll take screenshots tomorrow and post them.

Haha when I was Austria I got lucky and had a regular PU with England at the start of the game. England help alot to counter the Naval battle lol
 

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The first time I even attempted to get Poland into space I got free PUs on Hungary and Bohemia in the first 20 years. That's lucky... I should probably get back to that one.
 

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nice

In my luckiest game, I was playing a game of "make Europe have good borders by force" as France when I inherited Castille out of left field. No PU, just a regular royal marriage. I lol'd.
 

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In my current game as Castille I got a PU with France, Brittany and Scotland within the first 10 years of play by just having a royal marriage with them.
 

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If you read up on your Habsburgs history, you'll find that IRL they had some pretty incredible luck and skill with gaining inheritances. From humble beginnings in Switzerland, they married their way into duchies in Austria and the upper rhine, then inherited Bohemia and Hungary through a marriage with the House of Luxembourg. They also managed to get a Habsburg on the throne of Burgundy who later inherited the Spanish throne. In the mid-1500s pretty much the only parts of Europe not under Habsburg rule were France, England, Poland-Lithuania and Scandanavia.
So yeah, it may seem a bit cheesy to inherit half of Europe (esp. if you're playing as a historically "lucky" nation) but the real story of the Habsburgs was equally ridiculous. Just don't let your lineage die out and your empire collapse from centuries of inbreeding =D
 

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Just don't let your lineage die out and your empire collapse from centuries of inbreeding =D

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At some point you have to think that maybe second cousins would have been a better idea.
 
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You should keep a save from this "lucky" game, so when you're done you can come back to this point and play as Burgundy.
 

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Yes, there is surely something simmiliar in those faces... are they relatives ? XD

All Habsburg kings with the Habsburg jaw (first 2 are both Carlos II of Spain). The name itself has become synonymous with inbreeding.
 
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I just played another Austria game, PU'd every major power in Europe except for England by 1560, then had my Habsburg heir die at age 10. Like an idiot, I neglected my duty to spread the royal Habsburg seed and didn't have any other Habsburgs on other thrones except for my PUs. Now my king is a damned Holstein. Whoops! I guess I should have taken my own advice not to inbreed so much...