This is nonsense, just complete nonsense

[anomanderus]

I have 130,000 soldiers

The Austrians have 91,000 soldiers

That is almost 40,000 soldiers difference

And I'm on a mountain

Defending with 2 more discipline than the Austrians

My general is two star, theirs is 3 and they have 6 moral to my 5

I have reloaded multiple times and each time I lose, it's almost as though I'm an uncivilized nation or something like that

This has completely invalidated the point of me building up the second largest army in the world over 200 years if the Austrians can destroy me just like that when they're charging up the mountains of Lombardia and still beating my army

 

[ZangoZett]

What country are you, and what's their mil tech compared to yours?

 

[atwix]

stars mean nothing for a general. What is the date (since fire or shock pips for a general make or break a general in this or that timeframe) and what nation do you play...

 

[anomanderus]

What country are you, and what's their mil tech compared to yours?

Milan

We both have 20 military tech

I also notice that they also had a debuff due to crossing a river, in addition to charging up a mountain

 

[Jephery]

they have 6 moral to my 5

That is a pretty big morale difference. I've read that morale matters more than discipline and pips now because they made damage from rolls linear instead of exponential, so damage overall is a lot lower. Which means the pip disadvantage from terrain doesn't matter as much anymore.

 

[swm]

Milan

We both have 20 military tech

I also notice that they also had a debuff due to crossing a river, in addition to charging up a mountain

Screenshot of the battle?

A 1 point difference in morale is important (as max morale modifies morale damage your army does), but it shouldn't be that much.

 

[anomanderus]

That is a pretty big morale difference. I've read that morale matters more than discipline and pips now because they made damage from rolls linear instead of exponential, so damage overall is a lot lower. Which means the pip disadvantage from terrain doesn't matter as much anymore.

Oh well then great, because the Austrians are getting the "league war" bonus to their military tradition which increases their morale way up while for some reason I don't, even though I was in the same damn war as then against the protestants.

So I literally cannot defeat them offensively or defensively despite having 40,000 more soldiers because I cannot match them in morale because of their Austrian Traditions that give them +10%, that's some great design right there.

 

[Searry]

Yes, morale is OP at the moment. You should plan from the start to have as much of it as possible.

 

[Comradebot]

Also would need to know the make-up of the armies. From what I've seen, artillery is still king and if you have mostly infantry and they're rocking a sizable amount of artillery, that can be the difference maker.

 

[chronicpayne]

Oh well then great, because the Austrians are getting the "league war" bonus to their military tradition which increases their morale way up while for some reason I don't, even though I was in the same damn war as then against the protestants.

So I literally cannot defeat them offensively or defensively despite having 40,000 more soldiers because I cannot match them in morale because of their Austrian Traditions that give them +10%, that's some great design right there.

You can take every single military idea.
The AI never does.

You have no one to blame but yourself for not taking those ideas, then losing militarily. As milan with your national tech bonuses you should also be ahead in military tech by atleast 1 or 2 levels.

Also were your troops under strength?? Did you have a good composition of troops/artillery? etc etc...
All these things would've made a difference... Read http://www.eu4wiki.com/Land_warfare and learn about whats actually going on.

 

[1alexey]

That sounds very wierd, what are the generals shock and fire values?

Are Austrians running some quality improving policy?

 

[unmerged(88013)]

Milan
We both have 20 military tech
I also notice that they also had a debuff due to crossing a river, in addition to charging up a mountain

Get a discipline/Morale advisor if you can. Apart from that, you need lots of artillery @ 20 tech and a good fire general. Reroll if you have to until you get high fire.

Another thing to consider is the depletion level/starting morale of your troops. Keep reinforcing with mercs if you need to. You still might struggle though with that kind of morale difference.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Sounds fishy. Even with Nerfed dice -3 is huge. Bad comp is the only thing I can picture.

 

[Illianor123]

What are the stats on your leader? He could be a 0/0/6/6 2 star, hike they are a 6/6/4/1 3 star and so be getting +3 bonus (due to river+mountain. Or it could be 3/3/4/0 against 6/6/3/1 and then they just cancel out your defensive bonus.

The +1 morale is like a 15% discipline bonus, so they should be winning. The lower combat width on the mountain makes it come down to quality which they have in spades.

 

[grommile]

You have no one to blame but yourself for not taking those ideas, then losing militarily. As milan with your national tech bonuses you should also be ahead in military tech by atleast 1 or 2 levels.

Being one tech level ahead of a Western group country at a key moment is plausible.

Being two tech levels ahead of a Western group country is only possible if they have fouled up big-time, because of the way the tech cost modifiers interact.

 

[unmerged(2833)]

I won battles with 4 tech levels (15-19) disadvantage and slightly worse general on plains, with only 2x numerical superiority. The battle you describe doesnt seem plausible, especially with numerous reloads,

 

[chronicpayne]

Being one tech level ahead of a Western group country at a key moment is plausible.

Being two tech levels ahead of a Western group country is only possible if they have fouled up big-time, because of the way the tech cost modifiers interact.

Milan gets -5% tech malus from its ideas, plus innovative, being an HRE member, and military national focus? If any country in the world is going to lead Europe by 2 tech levels, its Milan.

 

[Less]

If you are losing due to morale then defending in the mountains might actually be hurting you. Small front = less units in play = battle drags on too long until your morale breaks first. Of course you'll take far more casualties defending elsewhere.

 

[Freudia]

Milan gets -5% tech malus from its ideas, plus innovative, being an HRE member, and military national focus? If any country in the world is going to lead Europe by 2 tech levels, its Milan.

Bohemia gets -10% tech cost reduction. If anyone's going to lead Europe by 2 tech levels, it's Bohemia.

 

[Alpharius001]

If any country in the world is going to lead Europe by 2 tech levels, its Milan.

Or Bohemia