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{{Some of the votes seem a bit strange. For example Senator Colombo doesn't want a trial, but he wants to summon the Italians to one (But I'm sure there's a lot of trials in Constantinople with all this HERESY going around). Di Capponi doesn't want to arrest Sophia but he wants the Athanatoi (pretty much the gestapo) to bring her to the Synod, using all means necessary (except for arresting her, I guess). It kind of makes sense, since they are both madmen, it's just a bit funny.

Senator Scipion speaking for Di Capponi is probably just a copy-paste mistake. It's an easy mistake, I almost didn't edit my own copy of Attalus' post correctly.}}
 
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Serpent said:
{{Some of the votes seem a bit strange. For example Senator Colombo doesn't want a trial, but he wants to summon the Italians to one (But I'm sure there's a lot of trials in Constantinople with all this HERESY going around). Di Capponi doesn't want to arrest Sophia but he wants the Athanatoi (pretty much the gestapo) to bring her to the Synod, using all means necessary (except for arresting her, I guess). It kind of makes sense, since they are both madmen, it's just a bit funny.

Senator Scipion speaking for Di Capponi is probably just a copy-paste mistake. It's an easy mistake, I almost didn't edit my own copy of Attalus' post correctly.}}
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{{Bah, when did internal consistency matter to anyone! This! Is! Madness! }}
 
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Senator David Ignacion (Unaffiliated):

"We must bring stability to the Imperium. We must convene a humane and justified synod.

RESOLUTIONS
(1) Synodos – convening the Synode
House Ignacion votes AYE.

(2) Synodos – summoning Sophia Angelos
House Ignacion votes AYE.

(3) Synodos – summoning the Italians
House Ignacion votes AYE.

(4) Trial – arresting Sophia Angelos
House Ignacion votes NAY

(5) Trial – sending Black Tagma
House Ignacion votes AYE.

(6) Trial – summoning the Italians
House Ignacion votes NAY.

(7) Exarchates – raising tariffs (subjects)
House Ignacion votes AYE.

(8) Resolution of the Imperial Senate
The Imperial Senate expresses its great sorrow at the senseless and vicious attack at His Excellency Archbishop of Konstantinoupolis and Ecumenical Patriarch Niketas Dalassenos, as well as expresses its unwavering support and gratitude for the megas domestikos Nikephoros Dalassenos who, despite losing his dear brother, carried out duties of his office with utmost diligence and dedication.

House Ignacion votes AYE.

OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP STATEMENT:

Senator David Ignacion REMAINS UNAFFILIATED
 
{{I'm of the opinion that a synod should be held first, and a trial if necessary after. That wasn't an option, so I settled for if there must be a trial (which it doesn't look like there will be) the Italians have to be there.}}
 
Mach Twelve said:
{{How old would one need to be to join this League of Old Geezers?}}
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{{I'm pretty sure the Mandromenos have earned the right to join the League. Admittedly he's not a cripple yet but Mandromenos is eccentric enough to deserve a place among the senile old geezers of the senate.}}
 
Ponce_The_Great said:
{{I'm pretty sure the Mandromenos have earned the right to join the League. Admittedly he's not a cripple yet but Mandromenos is eccentric enough to deserve a place among the senile old geezers of the senate.}}
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{{So a whole body, but a crippled mind. Makes sense I guess. I can see it now, the only member of League that still has color in his hair muttering about not meeting his self-assigned quota of purged heretics this year...}}
 
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Senator Markus von Habsburg (unaffiliated)
Just as the Plague has passed, so will this time of troubles come to pass. Herr Jesus Christus wills it.

BALLOTS
(1) Synodos – convening the Synode[/b]
House Habsburg votes AYE.
(2) Synodos – summoning Sophia Angelos
House Habsburg votes AYE.
(3) Synodos – summoning the Italians
House Habsburg votes AYE.
(4) Trial – arresting Sophia Angelos
House Habsburg votes NAY.
(5) Trial – sending Black Tagma
House Habsburg votes NAY.
(6) Trial – summoning the Italians
House Habsburg votes NAY.
(7) Exarchates – raising tariffs (subjects)
House Habsburg votes NAY.
(8) Resolution of the Imperial Senate
House Habsburg votes AYE.
OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP STATEMENT
Senator Markus von Habsburg STAYS unaffiliated.
 
Senator Banoub ibn Mahdi Rashid (Unaffiliated):

"We must give an opportunity for Sophia Angelos to repent, and use her power for the good of the Imperium."

RESOLUTIONS
(1) Synodos – convening the Synode
House Rashid votes AYE.

(2) Synodos – summoning Sophia Angelos
House Rashid votes AYE.

(3) Synodos – summoning the Italians
House Rashid votes AYE.

(4) Trial – arresting Sophia Angelos
House Rashid votes NAY

(5) Trial – sending Black Tagma
House Rashid votes NAY.

(6) Trial – summoning the Italians
House Rashid votes AYE.

(7) Exarchates – raising tariffs (subjects)
House Rashid votes NAY.

(8) Resolution of the Imperial Senate
The Imperial Senate expresses its great sorrow at the senseless and vicious attack at His Excellency Archbishop of Konstantinoupolis and Ecumenical Patriarch Niketas Dalassenos, as well as expresses its unwavering support and gratitude for the megas domestikos Nikephoros Dalassenos who, despite losing his dear brother, carried out duties of his office with utmost diligence and dedication.

House Rashid votes AYE.

OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP STATEMENT:

Senator Banoub ibn Mahdi Rashid REMAINS UNAFFILIATED
 
Senator Nikephoros II Salamis (Blue Demes):
*Nilephoros dnters the hall again, his boots sounding on the floor. He is still wearing his army officer uniform, and is breathing heavily*
I am sorry I missed a great part of the session, Senators- I had some urgent business to take care of.

BALLOTS
(1) Synodos – convening the Synode
House Salamis votes AYE.
(2) Synodos – summoning Sophia Angelos
House Salamis votes AYE.
(3) Synodos – summoning the Italians
House Salamis votes AYE.
(4) Trial – arresting Sophia Angelos
House Salamis votes AYE.
(5) Trial – sending Black Tagma
House Salamis votes AYE.
(6) Trial – summoning the Italians
House Salamis votes NAY.
(7) Exarchates – raising tariffs (subjects)
House Salamis votes NAY.
(8) Resolution of the Imperial Senate
House Salamis votes .
OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP STATEMENT
Senator Nikephpros II Salamis LEAVES the Blue Demes and JOINS the Red Demes.
 
Senator Petrus Wedrovander (Red Dems):

"The Way will be long, but we must go on and hope there is a light at the end of the tunnel."

RESOLUTIONS
(1) Synodos – convening the Synode
House Wedrovander votes AYE.

(2) Synodos – summoning Sophia Angelos
House Wedrovander votes NAY.

(3) Synodos – summoning the Italians
House Wedrovander votes AYE.

(4) Trial – arresting Sophia Angelos
House Wedrovander votes AYE

(5) Trial – sending Black Tagma
House Wedrovander votes NAY.

(6) Trial – summoning the Italians
House Wedrovander votes AYE.

(7) Exarchates – raising tariffs (subjects)
House Wedrovander votes AYE.

(8) Resolution of the Imperial Senate
The Imperial Senate expresses its great sorrow at the senseless and vicious attack at His Excellency Archbishop of Konstantinoupolis and Ecumenical Patriarch Niketas Dalassenos, as well as expresses its unwavering support and gratitude for the megas domestikos Nikephoros Dalassenos who, despite losing his dear brother, carried out duties of his office with utmost diligence and dedication.

House Wedrovander votes AYE.

OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP STATEMENT:

Senator Petrus Wedrovander Remains in the Red Dems.
 
luciusmalfoy012 said:
{{I'm of the opinion that a synod should be held first, and a trial if necessary after. That wasn't an option, so I settled for if there must be a trial (which it doesn't look like there will be) the Italians have to be there.}}
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{{If you wanted a trial you could have voted for one. I assume that the synod to determine wether or not her teachings are heresy would be held before the trial. Prosecuting her for heresy before the synod was called to determine her heresy doesn't really make sense, and I think Czoklet would let the events play out in the most logical order.

Granted, the propositions aren't all layed out in a conditional flow-chart but since Czoklet isn't a computer but a rational thinking person that's not really necessary. If it was we could face absurd situations such as summoning the Italians to a synod when we're not holding a synod, or sending the Athanatoi to bring Sophia to have lunch with the Emperor.

The votes are still really close about the trial, it's very exciting. The Komnenos are not going to be happy, though :D.

The current vote is:


(1) Synodos – convening the Synode
AYE 19
NAY

(2) Synodos – summoning Sophia Angelos
AYE 19
NAY

(3) Synodos – summoning the Italians
AYE 15
NAY 4

(4) Trial – arresting Sophia Angelos
AYE 9
NAY 10

(5) Trial – sending Black Tagma
AYE 5
NAY 14

(6) Trial – summoning the Italians
AYE 9
NAY 10

(7) Exarchates – raising tariffs (subjects)
AYE 6
NAY 13

(8) Resolution of the Imperial Senate
AYE 18
NAY
ABSTAIN 1

OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP STATEMENT
WHITE 6
BLUE 2
RED 6
UNAFFILIATED 5
}}
 
Senator Magnus Arrius (Blue Demes):
May Lady Sophia's journey here be safe, so that we all may hear from her. Glory to the Angeloi.

Ballots
(1) Synodos - convening the Synodo
House Arrius votes AYE.

(2) Synodos - summoning Sophia Angelos
House Arrius votes AYE.

(3) Synodod - summoning the Italians
House Arrius votes AYE.

(4) Trial - arresting Sophia Angelos
House Arrius votes NAY.

(5) Trial - sending Black Tagma
House Arrius votes NAY.

(6) Trial - summoning the Italians
House Arrius votes AYE.

(7) Exarchates - raising tariffs
House Arrius votes AYE.

(8) Resolution of the Imperial Senate
House Arrius votes AYE.

OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP STATEMENT
Senator Mangus Arrius STAYS IN the Blue Demes.
 
Serpent said:
{{If you wanted a trial you could have voted for one. I assume that the synod to determine wether or not her teachings are heresy would be held before the trial. Prosecuting her for heresy before the synod was called to determine her heresy doesn't really make sense, and I think Czoklet would let the events play out in the most logical order.

Granted, the propositions aren't all layed out in a conditional flow-chart but since Czoklet isn't a computer but a rational thinking person that's not really necessary. If it was we could face absurd situations such as summoning the Italians to a synod when we're not holding a synod, or sending the Athanatoi to bring Sophia to have lunch with the Emperor.

The votes are still really close about the trial, it's very exciting. The Komnenos are not going to be happy, though :D.

The current vote is:


(1) Synodos – convening the Synode
AYE 19
NAY

(2) Synodos – summoning Sophia Angelos
AYE 19
NAY

(3) Synodos – summoning the Italians
AYE 15
NAY 4

(4) Trial – arresting Sophia Angelos
AYE 9
NAY 10

(5) Trial – sending Black Tagma
AYE 5
NAY 14

(6) Trial – summoning the Italians
AYE 9
NAY 10

(7) Exarchates – raising tariffs (subjects)
AYE 6
NAY 13

(8) Resolution of the Imperial Senate
AYE 18
NAY
ABSTAIN 1

OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP STATEMENT
WHITE 6
BLUE 2
RED 6
UNAFFILIATED 5
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{{Wow, the Blue dems, myself included, are tiny. That is just sad.}}
 
{{They had numbers comparable to the other Demes, they just aren't voting.... Anyways I do feel that our unaffiliated Senators are Ghost Blues so you have more voting power than you know...}}
 
{{Yes a Salamis has joined the Reds. Behold our power!

Assuming we don't continue the tradition of Reds being executed for heresy and going insane }}
 
Ponce_The_Great said:
{{Yes a Salamis has joined the Reds. Behold our power!

Assuming we don't continue the tradition of Reds being executed for heresy and going insane }}
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{{Hey I only went mad once! Granted it was in a spectacular fashion that will be remembered both in character and out, but I say I was pretty tame this time, less mad and more zealous}}
 
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Mach Twelve said:
{{Hey I only went mad once! Granted it was in a spectacular fashion that will be remembered both in character and out, but I say I was pretty tame this time, less mad and more zealous}}
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{{Well if my tally is correct you're at least the third Red to be executed in the senate.
Though I am fully confident that the Madness of the Mandromenos will lead our faction to glory and madness!}}
 
Senator Absalon Hvide (Blue Demes)
I am greatly interested in what Lady Angelos has to say regarding her teachings should the senate choose to summon Her Imperial Highness and convene the great Synode.

BALLOTS
(1) Synodos – convening the Synode[/b]
House Exemplus votes AYE.
(2) Synodos – summoning Sophia Angelos
House Exemplus votes AYE.
(3) Synodos – summoning the Italians
House Exemplus votes NAY.
(4) Trial – arresting Sophia Angelos
House Exemplus votes NAY.
(5) Trial – sending Black Tagma
House Exemplus votes AYE.
(6) Trial – summoning the Italians
House Exemplus votes NAY.
(7) Exarchates – raising tariffs (subjects)
House Exemplus votes NAY.
(8) Resolution of the Imperial Senate
House Exemplus ABSTAINS.
OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP STATEMENT
Senator Exemplus Simplus STAYS IN the Blue Demes.
 
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