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Wait people were poisoned!?!
And we are awaiting the trial of some Blue Demes who have been charged with the act. You have some reading to do.
 

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Wait people were poisoned!?!
I mean... look at my signature. Half the Blues are dead, the other half in prison. Our great and dearly allied, Megas Droungarios Javier Espinosa, died in the middle of a discussion. Truly dire times for imperial progress and enlightment.
 
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As I see it, White demes will evolved as the reactionary party at the beginning of Vic2; red demes will be conservatives and blue demes will be liberals. But let see how things go during the next 250 years...
 
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OTL, the Renaissance was a period of trade, urbanization, and intellectual flowering.
TTL, the "Renaissance" is the reconquest of Hispania and purging of heretic Blues.
Thems the breaks.
 
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As I see it, White demes will evolved as the reactionary party at the beginning of Vic2; red demes will be conservatives and blue demes will be liberals. But let see how things go during the next 250 years...
Wouldn't the different demes be better represented by diferent branches? Reactionary and Conservative for one, Liberal and Anarcho-Liberal for another, and maybe a Socialism and Communism for a third, with Fascist as a new Vic2 development.
 

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Other things you missed while you were away: the thread being shut down twice due to going off-topic. Excitement aside, let's try to keep that number at two.

To that end: Czok-o, do you have events to give stability to ROTW? Funny to see Christendom at -1/0/1 and the Horde/Uzbek at 3 each.
 

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Wouldn't the different demes be better represented by diferent branches? Reactionary and Conservative for one, Liberal and Anarcho-Liberal for another, and maybe a Socialism and Communism for a third, with Fascist as a new Vic2 development.
Have you played Vic2? At the beginning of any game there are Reactionaries, Conservatives and Liberals, and in some cases Anarcho-Liberals. As the game runs up more ideologies appears (A-L around40-50s, Socialists around 60-70s, Communists around 70-80s and Fascists around the beginning of the new century.

Besides this, it would be a non-sense to have at least three parties or factions during almost 500 years and then suddenly return to a two parties system.

But as I said, there is a lot of time till we arrive that part of the story besides CzokletMuss is the one who will decide what happen.

OTL, the Renaissance was a period of trade, urbanization, and intellectual flowering.
TTL, the "Renaissance" is the reconquest of Hispania and purging of heretic Blues.
Thems the breaks.
In OTL it was called "Renaissance" because there was a wish of recover Roman culture and even architecture mixing it with new techniques. In TTL the name also has a lot of sense because there is a strong feeling for recovering the old lands of the Empire, expel the Xenois from Europe and recover the continent for the Christian faith.
 
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And we are awaiting the trial of some Blue Demes who have been charged with the act. You have some reading to do.
Yeah, about that - considering the, hmm, excitement which accompanied this whole affair and two subsequent thread locks I think that there will be no interactive trial. This doesn't mean there won't be any trial at all though.
Wouldn't the different demes be better represented by diferent branches? Reactionary and Conservative for one, Liberal and Anarcho-Liberal for another, and maybe a Socialism and Communism for a third, with Fascist as a new Vic2 development.
When we reach year 1836 and the Imperium is still there I'll think about it. With every decade this timeline is further and further from ours, so perhaps I will mod new political ideologies instead of Socialism or Anarcho-Liberalism for example. Reactionary, Conservative and Liberal will probably stay however. And there will definitely be new custom parties for ROM.
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To that end: Czok-o, do you have events to give stability to ROTW? Funny to see Christendom at -1/0/1 and the Horde/Uzbek at 3 each.
ROTW is much stronger in "Imperium Sine Fine" than it is in vanilla, I don't think it needs more stability. You will learn more when the India & Far East dev diary is released :)
 
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and @Enlil you missed some hardcore heresy. I was gonna try and get you in on it but you werent around.
 

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Guys you are forgetting one thing, only the Blues that showed up for the Faction meeting were arrested. Those that didn't show up (me) were not dragged away in chains.
 
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I am completely aware the there are still blues around. But I would imagine that facing such hardships leaves the demes in a very non-functioning state.
 

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I am completely aware the there are still blues around. But I would imagine that facing such hardships leaves the demes in a very non-functioning state.
Yes, the once mighty coalition of the blues has been totally shattered and the few that remain are propably very popular right now, i have 2 ideas as to why this happened. 1. reactionaries in the Imperium were behind it all due to the innovative policies of the blues. 2. Because the AARgustus decided that the huge majority of blues in the senate was getting boring and felt like dropping the hammer on it.

Soo to my fellow blues.... What do you say we ressurect the greens to get rid of the stigma of poisoning a major government official?
 
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Soo to my fellow blues.... What do you say we ressurect the greens to get rid of the stigma of poisoning a major government official?
No can do. Senators being unofficial blends of two of the three Factions like Purple or Pink has been fine, but it's been stated several times we can't form an entirely new one. No Green Demes.
 

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No can do. Senators being unofficial blends of two of the three Factions like Purple or Pink has been fine, but it's been stated several times we can't form an entirely new one. No Green Demes.
It was meant as a lets get out of this burning building comment, and also was mean in jest.
 

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The whole "Blue Incident" its a great opportunity to change some of the spirit of the Blue Navigators. Maybe we were a little too... progresist and liberals for this time.

The next senator of the Kastelos family will be quite diferent. Its time to show the other demes that we are not only "greedy merchants".
 

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The whole "Blue Incident" its a great opportunity to change some of the spirit of the Blue Navigators. Maybe we were a little too... progresist and liberals for this time.

The next senator of the Kastelos family will be quite diferent. Its time to show the other demes that we are not only "greedy merchants".
Well should Christian survive the coming purges he is propably going to jump at the church, fearing for his life and soul, having been tempted by an agent of satan himself.