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{{If there are differences between the wiki and Custom Nation Designer, in this case I will allow the policy because I told you to use the list on the wiki in the first place. }}
{{ Well it needs to be checked but the wiki says that these two aspects begin at 5% (cost nothing) and cost 5 points each to increase to 10% }}
 

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{{ Damn we should have checked earlier
I still think that it is an "average policy". The one in activity is quite powerful so maybe you could increase the points given for the next Session }}
 

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{{The policy will be put to a vote - before the next Session I will list all the bonuses on the first page of the thread (oh boy...)

In the future I intend to increase the amount of points you can spend on policies.}}
 
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{{The policy will be put to a vote - before the next Session I will list all the bonuses on the first page of the thread (oh boy...) }}
{{Sorry you keep getting more tedious work...}}
 
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{{Exactly, I just wanted to say that it's probably quite tedious...

Wait, the wiki is right. @CzokletMuss where did you place the two to check it? You should always use the last two slots, since early NI slots have additional cost on them, as do traditions (dunno about the ambition). And the other ideas need to be balanced between adm, dip and mil to avoid penalties.

What I actually want to say is: No tedious work for you! (screenshot inc)


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FIFTH SENATE SESSION - VOTING



IIllustrious President of the Imperial Senate magistros Nikephoros Dalassenos hereby announces that

THE DEBATE HAS ENDED
***

BALLOTS
The noble Senators shall vote using the following ballots:

RESOLUTIONS
(1) Expedition – Far East (Alakeshvara map)
Shall We organize an expedition based on Alakeshvara map to verify the accuracy with which it shows the unknown distant lands and seas in the Far East?
  • „The House <NAME> votes AYE.”
  • „The House <NAME> votes NAY.”
(2) Diplomatic mission – Serica (to establish diplomatic relations)
Shall We send Our trusted servant Javier Espinosa to represent Our Authority as the Megas Droungarios of the Imperium Romanum before the ruler of Serica, if the existence of the Sinae where this realm allegedly lies is confirmed?
  • „The House <NAME> votes AYE.”
  • „The House <NAME> votes NAY.”
(3) Casus belli – Pisa (Trade War CB)
Shall We put an end to exploitation of good Romaioi by imposing tarrifs on Pisan trade as well as demanding full access of Roman merchants to Pisan market and, in case of refusal, force the Republic of Pisa into submission?
  • „The House <NAME> votes AYE.”
  • „The House <NAME> votes NAY.”
POLICIES
(4) Policy - „Provincial Taxation System” (-10% land maintenance, +10% manpower recovery speed)
During each Session all policies enacted by the Imperial Senate are put to a vote.
  • „The House <NAME> votes FOR the revocation of the policy.”
  • „The House <NAME> votes AGAINST the revocation of the policy.”
SENATE POLICIES
(5) Senate Policy - „Lex foveretur Production Commercia” (+10% Production Efficiency, +10% Trade Efficiency)
  • „The House <NAME> votes FOR the enactment of the policy.”
  • „The House <NAME> votes AGAINST the enactment of the policy.”
OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP STATEMENT
Every Senator must include a statement in a post in which he votes using one of the following templates:
  • „Senator <name> LEAVES the <name> Demes and BECOMES UNAFFILIATED.”
  • „Senator <name> JOINS the <name> Demes.”
  • „Senator <name> LEAVES the <name> Demes and JOINS the <name> Demes.”
  • „Senator <name> STAYS IN the <name> Demes.”
  • „Senator <name> REMAINS UNAFFILIATED.”

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
GENERAL
  • You must follow the rules, especially those concerning writing in-character (IC) and out-of-character (OOC), or you risk getting banned from voting, current Session or in worst case the Senate.
  • Every Senator has 1 vote.
  • You vote only in this thread and only in-character.
  • You vote by posting a single post („voting post”) which includes (1) your character's name and Faction, if he is a Faction member (2) your vote in a form of ballots (3) obligatory Faction membership statement.
  • Your voting post may also include (4) closing argument no longer than 5 sentences.
  • Making other in-character posts during the voting makes your vote invalid.
  • In case you are not sure what to do, please PM me.
VOTING – EXCERPT FROM THE RULES
SECTION 4: VOTING

Article 21 – Role of the President of the Senate
1. President of the Senate annouces voting by posting in this thread. Continuing the debate after the aforementioned annoucement is forbidden.
(...)
3. President of the Senate counts votes and annouces the results of the voting in the Senatorial Record (Diarium Senatorum Imperialis).

Article 22 - Voting
1. Every Senator has 1 vote. Senators vote using ballots.
2. During voting Senators are allowed to make only one statement (1 post) which has to include vote in a proper form (ballot).
3. The statement (1 post) may include closing argument no longer than five sentences.
4. Senators may vote only in this thread and in-character.
5. Vote is invalid if:
- it doesn't fulfill the formal requirements;
- Senator voted writing out-of-character;
- Senator made more than 1 post during voting;
- Senator edited the post in which he voted;
- Senator voted after the voting has been closed;
- Senator voted in other place than this thread.

(...)
7. Senator who is absent (doesn't vote) during two consecutive Senate Sessions is removed from Album Senatorium together with his noble House, unless his absence was notified via e-mail or private massage before opening of the voting.

Article 23 – Ballot
1. For a vote to be valid, Senator has to use ballot (...)
2. Ballot must include statement concerning membership in the Senate Faction as per article 11-2.
3. Vote which doesn't fulfill this requirement is invalid.
4. President of the Senate provides ballots to the Senators in the post annoucing the beginning of the voting.
HOW TO VOTE - EXAMPLE
Code:
[size=4][b]Senator Exemplus Simplus (White Demes)[/b][/size]
This is my closing statement: I'm here to show you how to vote. I have nothing more to say. Glory to the Angeloi!

[b]RESOLUTIONS[/b]
[u][b](1) Expedition – Far East (Alakeshvara map)[/b][/u]
The House Simplus votes AYE.

[u][b](2) Diplomatic mission – Serica (to establish diplomatic relations)[/b][/u]
The House Simplus votes AYE.

[u][b](3) Casus belli – Pisa (Trade War CB)[/b][/u]
The House Simplus votes NAY.

[b]POLICIES[/b]
[u][b](4) Policy - „Provincial Taxation System”[/b][/u]
The House Exemplus votes FOR the enactment of the policy.

[b]SENATE POLICIES[/b]
[u][b](5) Senate Policy - „Lex foveretur Production Commercia” (+10% Production Efficiency, +10% Trade Efficiency)[/b][/u]
The House Exemplus votes FOR the enactment of the policy.

[b]OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP  STATEMENT[/b]
Senator Exemplus Simplus STAYS IN the White Demes.
THE VOTING STARTS NOW AND LASTS UNTIL 11:00 PM 24 JUNE (WARSAW TIME)
***
 

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Senator Giacomo Este Ravenna Red Demes)
Pisa delenda est!

RESOLUTIONS
(1) Expedition – Far East (Alakeshvara map)
The House Este Ravenna votes NAY.

(2) Diplomatic mission – Serica (to establish diplomatic relations)
The House Este Ravenna votes NAY.

(3) Casus belli – Pisa (Trade War CB)
The House Este Ravenna votes AYE.

POLICIES
(4) Policy - „Provincial Taxation System”
The House Este Ravenna votes FOR the continuation of the policy.

SENATE POLICIES
(5) Senate Policy - „Lex foveretur Production Commercia” (+10% Production Efficiency, +10% Trade Efficiency)
The House Este Ravenna votes FOR the enactment of the policy.

OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP STATEMENT
Senator Giacomo Este Ravenna STAYS IN the Red Demes.
 

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Senator Decius Pylaeus (White Demes)
Vote wisely, my fellow senators. Remember: When you gaze too long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.
May the Angeloi protect us all! Glory to the Angeloi!


RESOLUTIONS
(1) Expedition – Far East (Alakeshvara map)
The House Pylaeus votes NAY.

(2) Diplomatic mission – Serica (to establish diplomatic relations)
The House Pylaeus votes NAY.

(3) Casus belli – Pisa (Trade War CB)
The House Pylaeus votes NAY.

POLICIES
(4) Policy - „Provincial Taxation System”
The House Pylaeus votes FOR the continuation of the policy.

SENATE POLICIES
(5) Senate Policy - „Lex foveretur Production Commercia” (+10% Production Efficiency, +10% Trade Efficiency)
The House Pylaeus votes FOR the enactment of the policy.

OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP STATEMENT
Senator Decius Pylaeus STAYS IN the White Demes.
 

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Senator Aetius Scipion (Red Demes)
This is my closing statement: I'm here to show you how to vote. I have nothing more to say. Glory to the Angeloi!

RESOLUTIONS
(1) Expedition – Far East (Alakeshvara map)
The House Scipion votes AYE.

(2) Diplomatic mission – Serica (to establish diplomatic relations)
The House Scipion votes AYE.

(3) Casus belli – Pisa (Trade War CB)
The House Scipion votes AYE.

POLICIES
(4) Policy - „Provincial Taxation System”
The House Scipion votes FOR the enactment of the policy.

SENATE POLICIES
(5) Senate Policy - „Lex foveretur Production Commercia” (+10% Production Efficiency, +10% Trade Efficiency)
The House Scipion votes FOR the enactment of the policy.

OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP STATEMENT
Senator Aetius Scipion STAYS IN the Red Demes.
 

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Senator Alexios Serapis (White Demes)
"Let no quarrels divide us. We do what we must."

RESOLUTIONS
(1) Expedition – Far East (Alakeshvara map)
The House Serapis votes NAY.

(2) Diplomatic mission – Serica (to establish diplomatic relations)
The House Serapis votes NAY.

(3) Casus belli – Pisa (Trade War CB)
The House Serapis votes NAY.

POLICIES
(4) Policy - „Provincial Taxation System”
The House Serapis votes FOR the continuation of the policy.

SENATE POLICIES
(5) Senate Policy - „Lex foveretur Production Commercia” (+10% Production Efficiency, +10% Trade Efficiency)
The House Serapis votes FOR the enactment of the policy.

OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP STATEMENT
Senator Alexios Serapis STAYS IN the White Demes.[/QUOTE]
 

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{{Can I make a little longer closing statement, as I was absent during the discussion? It will not be a huge speech, just a couple of sentences with my Senator's opinion and a few short statements towards other Senators.}}
 

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{{Can I make a little longer closing statement, as I was absent during the discussion? It will not be a huge speech, just a couple of sentences with my Senator's opinion and a few short statements towards other Senators.}}
{{ Sure. }}
 

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Senator Titos Livios Melissenos (White Demes)

I don't have much to add to the debate of this day. But as it is tradition, you all are invited to follow me to my families estate here in the queen of cities for a rich banquet, just leave all hostilities in front of my doorsteps and enter as friends.

*The old man bows deeply in front of the other Senators.*



Resolutions
1) Expedition – Far East

The House Melissenos votes NAY.

2) Diplomatic Mission – Serica
The House Melissenos votes NAY.

3) Casus belli – Pisa
The House Melissenos votes NAY.

Policies
4) Policy - “Provincial Taxation System”

The House Melissenos votes FOR the continuation of the policy.

Senate Policies
5) Senate Policy - “Lex foveretur Production Commercia”

The House Melissenos votes FOR the enactment of the policy.

Faction Membership Statement
Senator Titos Livios Melissenos STAYS IN the White Demes.
 

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Senator Alexandros Raoul (Blue Demes)
Well now it all rests in our hands, conscript fathers. Ceterum censeo Pisam delendam esse.

RESOLUTIONS
(1) Expedition – Far East (Alakeshvara map)

The House Raoul votes AYE.

(2) Diplomatic mission – Serica (to establish diplomatic relations)
The House Raoul votes AYE.

(3) Casus belli – Pisa (Trade War CB)
The House Raoul votes AYE.

POLICIES
(4) Policy - "Provincial Taxation System"
The House Raoul votes FOR the enactment of the policy.

SENATE POLICIES
(5) Senate Policy - "Lex foveretur Production Commercia" (+10% Production Efficiency, +10% Trade Efficiency)

The House Raoul votes votes FOR the enactment of the policy.

OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP STATEMENT

Senator Alexandros Raoul STAYS IN the Blue Demes.

{{ Also I don't want to be annoying but I don't think the name of our policy means much :p I don't really know what foveretur means and the meaning of support from fovere is only listed 4th on the quick search I did.
How about a simpler : "Lex pro Negotiatoribus Industriisque Romanis" (Law for the Roman merchants and Industries ; not really sure about the adjective genre though)
But well I guess it can be talked after the voting. We don't want people to talk about Latin between votes do we ? }}
 
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Senator Alexandros Raoul (Blue Demes)

{{ Also I don't want to be annoying but I don't think the name of our policy means much :p I don't really know what foveretur means and the meaning of support from fovere is only listed 4th on the quick search I did.
How about a simpler : "Lex pro Negotiatoribus Industriisque Romanis" (Law for the Roman merchants and Industries ; not really sure about the adjective genre though)
But well I guess it can be talked after the voting. We don't want people to talk about Latin between votes do we ? }}
((What about "Res Nostra" ? :D ))
 

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{ OOC: "Tiim" is Mongolian for "yes" and "Ugui" is Mongolian for "no". }

Senator Bubba Azizid:

RESOLUTIONS
1. EXPEDITION
TIIM

2. CEYLON
TIIM

3. BEAT UP PISA
TIIM

4. CANON POLICY
TIIM

5. AAR-RP POLICY
TIIM

6. DEME/KHURAL
ABSTENSION (Bubba remains unaffiliated, cauceses with Blue)
 

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Senator Pau de Mallorca, Red Demos
A disappointing display for the Red Deme; we may have incorrectly placed our faith in Senator Taurinus. Hispania must be reconquered.

RESOLUTIONS
(1) Expedition – Far East (Alakeshvara map)

The House de Mallorca votes NAY.

(2) Diplomatic mission – Serica (to establish diplomatic relations)
The House de Mallorca votes NAY.

(3) Casus belli – Pisa (Trade War CB)
The House de Mallorca votes AYE.

POLICIES
(4) Policy - „Provincial Taxation System”

The House de Mallorca votes FOR the enactment of the policy.

SENATE POLICIES
(5) Senate Policy - „Lex foveretur Production Commercia” (+10% Production Efficiency, +10% Trade Efficiency)

The House de Mallorca votes AGAINST the enactment of the policy.

OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP STATEMENT
Senator Pau de Mallorca STAYS IN the Red Demos.
 

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Senator Marcus Arrius (the Blue Demes)
I have said all I can on these matters. Praise be to the Augustus.

RESOLUTIONS
(1) Expedition – Far East (Alakeshvara map)
The House Arrius votes AYE.

(2) Diplomatic mission – Serica (to establish diplomatic relations)
The House Arrius votes AYE.

(3) Casus belli – Pisa (Trade War CB)
The House Arrius votes AYE.

POLICIES
(4) Policy - „Provincial Taxation System”
The House Arrius votes FOR the enactment of the policy.

SENATE POLICIES
(5) Senate Policy - „Lex foveretur Production Commercia” (+10% Production Efficiency, +10% Trade Efficiency)
The House Arrius votes FOR the enactment of the policy.

OBLIGATORY FACTION MEMBERSHIP STATEMENT
Senator Marcus Arrius STAYS IN the Blue Demes.