This is absolute common... (10 years into game)

[HighLigerBimBam]

The evil is night...

Blobbibi blob... FATIMID!

(I know this is known, but 40 years after gamestart? Seriously they own everything!)

 

[AdAstra]

Fight evil with Evil...

 

[MasterOfGrey]

I have never seen anything like that. o.0

 

[Cuthuthulu]

How..... What!

 

[hannibal_barca]

You sure you playing with the lastest 1.07b? Jihads can't happen until 1187, although I supposed that screenshot is possible even with that restriction. I've never seen anything like that

 

[tuareg109]

The evil is night...

Blobbibi blob... FATIMID!

(I know this is known, but 10 years after gamestart? Seriously they own everything!)

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Terrain mapmode...Jesus Christ, why Castus why?

 

[NezzeOne]

You sure you playing with the lastest 1.07b? Jihads can't happen until 1187, although I supposed that screenshot is possible even with that restriction. I've never seen anything like that

The screenshot is from 1109. Definitely not 1.07b.

Still. What the Hell, Fatimids? WHY HUNGARY?!

 

[MrWeRD]

What the heck is the Muslims doing in central Europe? Is the Byzantine Empire losing THAT badly?

 

[Comm Cody]

Mother of god.

 

[TehJumpingJawa]

Were Poland and Hungary conquered separately, or did the crowns merge (and one destroyed) prior to invasion?

 

[Agrippa43]

Time to Rollback to 1.06b!

 

[Gqarz]

I have seen the ERE completely absorbed by muslim powers by 1180 a couple times.

 

[Sleight of Hand]

I wonder if we'll get 1.07c tomorrow. :happy:

 

[CelticMutt]

Fatimids can't Jihad that early, but they can still invade entire kingdoms.

 

[ZechsMerquise73]

The screenshot is from 1109. Definitely not 1.07b.

Still. What the Hell, Fatimids? WHY HUNGARY?!

Invasion is not the same as a Jihad.

 

[Avicenna]

I have seen the ERE completely absorbed by muslim powers by 1180 a couple times.

I've had them gone by 1100 - no joke.


Game-start invasion.
That's essentially one crown gone already

Then you have the possibility of:
Sunni Jihad.
Shia Jihad.
Seljuk invasion.
Fatimid invasion.

One thing I don't get is the almost uniform lack of fight-back from the BYZ. They lose a kingdom, do nothing, lose another, do nothing... I think the issue is that Anatolia never descends into eatable states [autonomous beys, for example], like it did in real life. The BYZ have to attempt to take on either the whole Seljuk/Fatimid domain if it wants to retake land, and then it's never Anatolia whole - they'll have to fight a half-dozen holy-wars to reclaim it.

I know experiences differ between gamers - but for me, if the BYZ exist after 1200, it's because the Muslims haven't done something, as opposed to the BYZ doing something.

 

[Shadowhope]

I know experiences differ between gamers - but for me, if the BYZ exist after 1200, it's because the Muslims haven't done something, as opposed to the BYZ doing something.

For me, it's 1100. I had five straight games where I loaded in 1066 to start as a one county count in the ERE and work my way up. Five straight times, the Empire was gone by 1100.

 

[Dracko81]

Looks more like 40 years starting as an Irish count/duke...so 30 year miscalculation?

 

[Westernesse]

SC is crazy, I could see a player doing that, but I'm surprised the ai did.

ERE can live if you get a Fatmid vs Selejuk war. They can regain land by waging war during SC or faction revolts. In my last game started as count in ERE (I did nothing), they managed to beat back initial invasion then lost 1 county to Fatmids. Turks ended up losing independance revolt to a lot of the north western dukes, so their empire stopped at Baghdad duchy. This allowed the ERE to slowly gobble Croatia and the independant dukes from the turks. Fatmid jihad was staved off cause of Catholic Crusade for Jerusalem. I did stop there African advance by conquering Tripoltania when it was in a civil war, but was pretty uninvolved otherwise. I eventually became Emperor and well we really killed both of them then once I started getting directly invovled.

 

[Acularius]

For me, it's 1100. I had five straight games where I loaded in 1066 to start as a one county count in the ERE and work my way up. Five straight times, the Empire was gone by 1100.

I started as a custom duke of Nikea. The Empire won against the Seljuks... we did lose Antioch when the pricks went Independent and were steamrolled by muslims...
Past that, used a civil war to install Elective. Clawed my way to the top. Became Emperor and started taking advantage of the splintering Seljuks. The Fatamids were strong, but at every new ruler I went head to head and crush them before they established a solid new regime. Break down in Sicily, expanded my power there. Eventually the Fatamids collapsed, and then you tke advantage and push every war you can.
Use only the Cataphract retinue and every decent general you have, and you get a LOT of general.

Just keep pushing every opportunity, and crush the Seljuks and Fatamids at every opportunity. Keep them bottled up and not able to expand, watch their decadence SOAR!
Just be the English to the French.

Hope to god you have a solid front in which to face the Mongols... because they are far more terrifying than the Seljuks and Fatamids.