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...and became a steaming pile of unplayable horse crap with patch 1.8.

I registered simply to let you know that you need to fire/burn at the stake whoever was responsible for making this game unplayable.
 

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...and became a steaming pile of unplayable horse crap with patch 1.8.

I registered simply to let you know that you need to fire/burn at the stake whoever was responsible for making this game unplayable.

If that is your reason for your arrival, then I must beg your leave. You are unwelcome here.

If you would rather describe what exactly you don't like about 1.8 and talk a bit, then please have a seat, pour yourself a drink and stay a while.
 

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...and became a steaming pile of unplayable horse crap with patch 1.8.

I registered simply to let you know that you need to fire/burn at the stake whoever was responsible for making this game unplayable.

You mean yourself? Because my game is running perfectly fine.
 

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Why do whining thread have to be so very constructive all the time? OP explains his complaints in such fine detail with wall of texts that I have no choice but to agree.
 

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...and became a steaming pile of unplayable horse crap with patch 1.8.

I registered simply to let you know that you need to fire/burn at the stake whoever was responsible for making this game unplayable.

I find him welcome, It's good EU4 players are getting fed-up with Paradox's bad work (EA) ethics. The only way paradox will change is if the community lets the studio know its unacceptable to be releasing broken DLC that people spend their hard earned money on.
 

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I find him welcome, It's good EU4 players are getting fed-up with Paradox's bad work (EA) ethics. The only way paradox will change is if the community lets the studio know its unacceptable to be releasing broken DLC that people spend their hard earned money on.

You can't expect meaningful change if you aren't willing to promote a discourse that outlines any issues or grievances that you are having. Paradox has a well-published way of handling reports of any issues with their products, and I am sure that they make every effort to fix them. If you would merely take the extra few minutes to type those oh-so-simple words explaining your issues, you could reasonably expect a prompt response and (hopefully) solution to whatever problem you are having.

I wholly disagree with this approach you supposedly support, and I honestly think that it underlines a fundamental flaw in how customers chose to interact with game companies. This lack of concrete argument, in my opinion, has led to companies like EA and the like being the way they are - that is, indifferent to consumers as long as they make a profit.

Anyway, I hope this thread gets locked soon. Its a profoundly meaningless point of expression on the part of the OP.
 

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You can't expect meaningful change if you aren't willing to promote a discourse that outlines any issues or grievances that you are having. Paradox has a well-published way of handling reports of any issues with their products, and I am sure that they make every effort to fix them. If you would merely take the extra few minutes to type those oh-so-simple words explaining your issues, you could reasonably expect a prompt response and (hopefully) solution to whatever problem you are having.

I wholly disagree with this approach you supposedly support, and I honestly think that it underlines a fundamental flaw in how customers chose to interact with game companies. This lack of concrete argument, in my opinion, has led to companies like EA and the like being the way they are - that is, indifferent to consumers as long as they make a profit.

This is exactly how I feel. Criticism is not useful or helpful unless one actually lists what they dislike in a manner that can be easily seen. The OP is not something that can be acted upon because there is no information on exactly what is causing the user a problem or discontent. As an engineer, I can relate to how frustrating and useless such information can be. To borrow a phrase from the original post, people who advocate this method of expressing ones' discontent should be "burned at the stake."

Anyways, I find myself disagreeing with the OP. I find myself enjoying the game a bit more than before even if I've run across a bug or two (multiple cardinals in a province and getting a CB on myself as a West African nation).
 

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From my perspective, this game used to be crap but it became a holy pile of gold with 1.8.

I was sorely disappointed with the way the game was developed after 1.2, and eventually stopped playing altogether. Returned for 1.8 and game's better than it's ever been if you ask me.
 

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Are we still on the 1.8.1 beta patch? If so OP should try it out.
 

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1.8 gives modders a lot more tools to play with and thus is an improvement of the game.
 

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Uhm - this wonderful piece of work (patch 1.8) is highly suspect to me. I purchased EU4 with the recent sales promotion and have put in countless hours playing the game in order to learn it. During these hours I have experienced zero technical difficulties and then uninvitedly v1.8 shows up, leaves my saves unplayable and after starting a new game CTDs less than two hours in. Not the best of starts!
 

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You can't expect meaningful change if you aren't willing to promote a discourse that outlines any issues or grievances that you are having. Paradox has a well-published way of handling reports of any issues with their products, and I am sure that they make every effort to fix them. If you would merely take the extra few minutes to type those oh-so-simple words explaining your issues, you could reasonably expect a prompt response and (hopefully) solution to whatever problem you are having.

I wholly disagree with this approach you supposedly support, and I honestly think that it underlines a fundamental flaw in how customers chose to interact with game companies. This lack of concrete argument, in my opinion, has led to companies like EA and the like being the way they are - that is, indifferent to consumers as long as they make a profit.

Anyway, I hope this thread gets locked soon. Its a profoundly meaningless point of expression on the part of the OP.

Just look at the forum threads within the past 24h period, you will notice many grievances.

'Paradox has a well-published way of handling reports of any issues with their products, and I am sure that they make every effort to fix them.'

Lo, like how they fixed the non-host can change game speed?. A problem that has persisted within the game since its very first day of release?
Shall I name more bugs that have been in the game since its first day of release?. What I find hilarious is how you assume Paradox has a well-published way of handling reports. Paradox shouldn't have to handle reports from its paying customers and should instead be handling it internally through a QA team. Being a multi-million dollar publisher/developer and forcing your customers to pay $20 for broken DLC is unacceptable and if you think it's a 'fundamental flaw in how customers interact with game companies' when people are pissed about that fact that they spent their hard earned money on a unplayable beta then you need to open your eyes.
 

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Uhm - this wonderful piece of work (patch 1.8) is highly suspect to me. I purchased EU4 with the recent sales promotion and have put in countless hours playing the game in order to learn it. During these hours I have experienced zero technical difficulties and then uninvitedly v1.8 shows up, leaves my saves unplayable and after starting a new game CTDs less than two hours in. Not the best of starts!
If you're running it in Steam, you can "right-click, properties, betas, (drop down) Beta Patch 1.8.1". They resolved performance issues within days of it being released. While it sucks that the issue happened in the first place, it's practically unavoidable, short of building a thousand thousand computers of various makes and models from stock to homebuilt to test their game on with each new patch.

Just look at the forum threads within the past 24h period, you will notice many grievances.

'Paradox has a well-published way of handling reports of any issues with their products, and I am sure that they make every effort to fix them.'

Lo, like how they fixed the non-host can change game speed?. A problem that has persisted within the game since its very first day of release?
Shall I name more bugs that have been in the game since its first day of release?. What I find hilarious is how you assume Paradox has a well-published way of handling reports. Paradox shouldn't have to handle reports from its paying customers and should instead be handling it internally through a QA team. Being a multi-million dollar publisher/developer and forcing your customers to pay $20 for broken DLC is unacceptable and if you think it's a 'fundamental flaw in how customers interact with game companies' when people are pissed about that fact that they spent their hard earned money on a unplayable beta then you need to open your eyes.

Again, a QA team, short of getting a thousand thousand computers, wouldn't be able to catch these things. Beyond that, I've not seen anyone complaining of bugs or brokenness. I will admit to having seen quite a few frustrated people over various changes, though. What he means as the fundamental flaw is rage. We need to be able to sit down and give P'Dox fine, concise points as to what we don't like and what our issues are. We argue it rationally and calmly. Threads that have OP's like this are readily ignored because they either look like trolls or are otherwise just part of the reactionary movement that every patch has.

And I'd like to note: This pleasant response comes from someone who argued for several pages on the issue of the "50% min LA for Natives" and who was utterly unable to play the game because of crippling lag. I may have my frustrations with P'Dox, but they're still a wonderful company that I'm glad to support with my wallet.
 

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I find him welcome, It's good EU4 players are getting fed-up with Paradox's bad work (EA) ethics. The only way paradox will change is if the community lets the studio know its unacceptable to be releasing broken DLC that people spend their hard earned money on.
this DLC is not broken, it works perfectly fine, and if you dont want it, dont buy it
 

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I got lag problems when 1.8 came out (I haven't got AoW yet), but the 1.8.1 beta seems to have sorted it out, and I've now got the same performance as before.

That means that I wasn't able to play smoothly for a few days. Now that I am able to play like before I'm really enjoying the changes, and the new rebel system in particular.

Was it worth it? - definitely!

OK, some people may still be experiencing problems even after the beta patch, but I'm sure that these will be ironed out fairly soon.
 
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I got lag problems when 1.8 came out (I haven't got AoW yet), but the 1.8.1 beta seems to have sorted it out, and I've now got the same performance as before.

That means that I wasn't able to play smoothly for a few days. Now that I am able to play like before I'm really enjoying the changes, and the new rebel system in particular.

Was it worth it? - definitely!

OK, some people may still be experiencing problems even after the beta patch, but I'm sure that these will be ironed out fairly soon.

This is nice to know, but if Steam is w/o my permission going to "upgrade" my game to 1.8.0 why stop there? I play outside of Steam and this unauthorized download of 1.8.0 happened while I was reading guides, which has me aggravated enough, but to start this process before a "viable" version is established is inane. Why doesn't Paradox insist on a purge of buggy versions so that customers get the "latest and greatest" instead of what they know is a piling steam of (insert expletive)? I have better things to do with my late Saturday nights than chasing down Steam/Paradox-induced stupidity.

For now I have rolled back to 1.7.3 and will await resolution of the problems, but having to refrain from visiting Steam to peruse valuable learning material is hurting my ability to play this game (BTW it is also a contractual breach). I am no fan of Steam and a big fan of Paradox. These two need to get together and get their act straightened out.

Edit: I am glad to see that the EU4 forum is as good as the HOI3 forum. The people here are very helpful and quick to respond - Thank you.