I;m sure everyone gets my reference up there in the title. When an army gets stackwiped, can we see it reform at the capital, barracks, etc? Otherwise you need to quickly hire mercenaries.
This Army Has Been Shattered. It was reformed in Vienna with a Cadre of wounded men.
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The whole point of stackwipes is to prevent just getting the army back. Otherwise it would be impossible to beat someone with much more manpower than you.
'as a reward for losing your entire army, we're going to give you a whole new army afresh! Just because you deserve it!'
Nope, not how it works.
Nope, not how it works.
Then again I think the direction the game has been going is that entire stack wipes aren't supposed to be happening all the time, well blame it on force march or the warscore system. Obviously if an entire standing army was completely obliterated that would have a very huge percentage count in your peace deals would it not?
Depends on the size of the army you just obliterated, but usually a stackwipe does mean a significant increase in warscore. By the way, I love your username.
Stackwipe = all survivors of the battle have been taken prisoner by the enemy, and survival rates for prisoners of war in this era were not good (especially heretic/heathen prisoners who were often massacred or sold into slavery). Maybe you should get some manpower back at the end of the war, but certainly not during the war.
It doesn't change warscore by too much, but a couple stackwipes can seriously impact the '[enemy]'s military strength' peace deal modifier, which has a similar effect.
Depends on the CB. Superiority (Holy war type) can award 10+ WS for a stackwipe. Most of the time all I do is fight battles and siege the 1-2 provinces I want and be the time they are done sieging I'll have 50+ WS just from stackwiping 1k stacks and winning battles.
No what I mean is, the people who escaped hea d back to the capital, and the military recruits some people from amnpower pool to form a new regiment immediately.
So what you say is if an army is destroyed it should go to 0 men but still exist so that it can use manpower to refill its people instead of needing to recruit a new regiment, so that armys are not destroyed but converted to empty stacks and then need to be refilled like regiments that lost around 280 men?
AI is indeed already dump and how I explained it would really kill the AI's understanding of "What to do next..."
It will probably end up sending empty stacks into battle
It will probably end up sending empty stacks into battle
not to mention that the enemy would just wander over and re-stack wipe that newly formed army to give then even more WS.
While I see the potential problems with the AI it could work out better than we have. So let's imagine say Bohemia stackwiped some Austrian armies. These soldiers would find their way back to Vienna and reform there. There they would join with fresh men and previously wounded soldiers, and they could rebuild a nucleus of an army. Then new soldiers could be added to it. Of course, if tehre no manpower left, then yes there would be an empty stack. To prevent AI problems, just state that an empty stack can't move or be engaged until it's rebuilt. If it can't eb rebuilt then it'll just collapse and any manpower left can be put into the pool.
my question is what factors lead to stack wipes. I have lost armies in the first fight in a battle against even numbers wiped. and i have chased AI stacks around their territory for 5 years as they refuse to wipe but I dont want to leave them to reinforce. even when I outnumber them 10-1.
Oh god. The attrition you could work up like this. AI armies never split if there is an enemy threatening them nearby - forcing wiped stacks onto the same tile to burn away all of their manpower would be hilarious
Most of these "soldiers" can't be compared to what a soldier is today. Most were peasant rabble who were forced to serve and might actually be lucky enough to get a weapon that's not a pitchfork. Once their army is routed they will use the opportunity to go home instead of marching to the nearest barracks and screaming "I'm back".
Wrong time period... Armies of most of this period (upto 1700's) were mostly Mercenaries besides a small core of a national army (which was still usually based on mercenary companies permanently attached to a nation).
Most Europeans armies at the time after the Fuedal age were quite professional- many were career soldiers not neccesarily farmers.