This achievement took forever....

[mjb2k]

"The People Have Stood Up". It must have taken me 13 hours of real life and 22 years in game. What else could I have done with that time? If y'all don't know what it is, as communist China take over the world (actually you need to annex all of your cores but if you play it legit that means you need to cap France, UK, Portugal and USA). Apparently .03% of the community has done this so... I am part of that 300 or so people who have completed this achievement. I think I have a much simpler way of doing it however, one that doesn't involve ridiculous grind as PRC. Maybe I'll write a guide how to on the steam page, as long as it doesn't take 12 hours lol.

Here are some pictures...

After a certain point I couldn't see parts of the map unless I switched to a different theater.
I also had to spend around 150 PP per general at certain times lol.

In order for me to continue I had to kill the allies which after the axis died meant I had to push them off the continent of Europe. On the left you can see the amount of guns and artillery I was losing a day. Also notice the manpower of the first picture and compare it to this one lol.

 

[Goshawk]

Good job. Did you stick with Maoism?

 

[mjb2k]

Good job. Did you stick with Maoism?

yes.

 

[amocpower]

I tried 5 times in row...notting help Tried with Nat.China, he lost agains Japan so fast(because Nat.China attack until he can´t defense). Tried alone...Japan DOW me after China. Tried with Sovyets...they kick me out from alliance after NF(bug?) and Japan DOW. Tried just defensive play not worked...Offensive not enough :S

How did you do?

P.S. : Many achievments turn to WC anyways :S

 

[aronnov]

I’m dreading this....

Then you have to do this all again as a warlord.... then you have to do it all again as nationalist China....

These are brutal achievements

After all that did you get a level 10 field marshal?

 

[Guntrigger]

"The People Have Stood Up". It must have taken me 13 hours of real life and 22 years in game

Glad to see you got it! Excellent job, that's some good dedication.

 

[Hopit]

I tried 5 times in row...notting help Tried with Nat.China, he lost agains Japan so fast(because Nat.China attack until he can´t defense). Tried alone...Japan DOW me after China. Tried with Sovyets...they kick me out from alliance after NF(bug?) and Japan DOW. Tried just defensive play not worked...Offensive not enough :S

How did you do?

P.S. : Many achievments turn to WC anyways :S

Annoyingly these turn to WC forcefully because you need to get the colonies held by UK, Portugal and France...

Personally I rode the wave of communism on papa Stalins shoulders to get this

 

[Reman]

"The People Have Stood Up". It must have taken me 13 hours of real life and 22 years in game. What else could I have done with that time? If y'all don't know what it is, as communist China take over the world (actually you need to annex all of your cores but if you play it legit that means you need to cap France, UK, Portugal and USA). Apparently .03% of the community has done this so... I am part of that 300 or so people who have completed this achievement. I think I have a much simpler way of doing it however, one that doesn't involve ridiculous grind as PRC. Maybe I'll write a guide how to on the steam page, as long as it doesn't take 12 hours lol.

Here are some pictures...

After a certain point I couldn't see parts of the map unless I switched to a different theater.
I also had to spend around 150 PP per general at certain times lol.

In order for me to continue I had to kill the allies which after the axis died meant I had to push them off the continent of Europe. On the left you can see the amount of guns and artillery I was losing a day. Also notice the manpower of the first picture and compare it to this one lol.

What was your opener for commie China? I tried several different strats but the only way I could manage was by selling my soul to Stalin. Every other attempt ended when Chiang Kai Shek suicided his units faster than I could replace them.

 

[adam_grif]

They could make it a lot easier if the Chinese nations did not have a core on the European territorial concessions like Hong Kong and Macau, but then people would complain. I think I remember podcat actually saying that he added a comchi core before WTT came out lol.

One middle ground might be making China start without cores on it, but get them back by taking a decision. But I reckon that the devs don't want trivialise the achievements that much. It might get easier in the future if they implement better peace mechanics for non-total wars anyway.

 

[Gort11]

Wait, the description of the achievement is

With Mao as your leader, win the Chinese Civil War.

If it's what you say, shouldn't it be "With Mao as your leader, own all Chinese core territories and be at peace" or something? I've been trying to win the Chinese Civil War as Communist China.

 

[Hopit]

They could make it a lot easier if the Chinese nations did not have a core on the European territorial concessions like Hong Kong and Macau, but then people would complain. I think I remember podcat actually saying that he added a comchi core before WTT came out lol.

One middle ground might be making China start without cores on it, but get them back by taking a decision. But I reckon that the devs don't want trivialise the achievements that much. It might get easier in the future if they implement better peace mechanics for non-total wars anyway.

Simplest solution would be just leave the cores and not make them count for the achievement

 

[mjb2k]

After all that did you get a level 10 field marshal?

I didn't no. I couldn't get my field marshalls past lvl 6. Don't ask me how like the experience gain must be so low or bugged because they didn't move.

 

[Hopit]

I didn't no. I couldn't get my field marshalls past lvl 6. Don't ask me how like the experience gain must be so low or bugged because they didn't move.

It takes 2x the experience for every level, so the amount needed gets ridiculous real fast

 

[mjb2k]

I tried 5 times in row...notting help Tried with Nat.China, he lost agains Japan so fast(because Nat.China attack until he can´t defense). Tried alone...Japan DOW me after China. Tried with Sovyets...they kick me out from alliance after NF(bug?) and Japan DOW. Tried just defensive play not worked...Offensive not enough :S

How did you do?

P.S. : Many achievments turn to WC anyways :S

Rush Shanxi and Xibei. Don't join United Front instead attack China while Japan is killing him. Take as much as possible in peace deal. Japan will likely puppet him but you have a focus to invite China to your faction so it bugs the game out and he no longer is Japans puppet. Then go to war with Japan and take Manchuria and Korea. But nationalist China gets the white peace so then you kill him and while this is happening research nukes. Drop 2 on Japan and take over Tibet, Sinkiang, Bhutan, Nepal. I eventually attacked France (who was a dominion of Germany) and Portugal and the UK. So I was then at war with the axis and allies and I slowly grinded Raj to death. Eventually Soviets capped (after losing 45 million men) in like 1948. Then I started to push into Germany. I also started couping Germany and other nations like USA and the UK. So over like a period of 5 years I fought the Germans and they were on scraping the barrel already and they lost every man possible. By now the only countries who had a sliver of manpower was USA, UK and me. Everyone else lost everyone... France had like 600 divisions but 0 manpower and Germany was the same. I had begun using nukes as tactical weapons to push at all. Eventually Germany ran out of gas and after they hit rock bottom (1954) they collapsed quickly from both sides. Somehow the allies got kicked out of the peace deal and I got all of the axis, 2/3 of my cores were taken back. So the allies were pushing east and me west. I was so sick of microing all of my 18 generals and 600 divisions I had all my field marshalls aggressively battleplan the British and the Americans off the continent, lost around 3 million in 6 months. In 55 they were removed from Europe. So I invaded Britain who by now also hit rock bottom. Took UK, Ireland, Norway and then invaded Nova Scotia. Pushed into Maine and America battleplans me and in about 3 months they lost 6 million men. At that point I battleplanned into them. I had to invade brazil and by 58 I had finally killed all of the allied majors (the UK took back the home islands so I had to kill them again). But I couped the UK so I didn't get hong kong so I had to invade the UK AGAIN and then I finally got the achievment.

I think an easier way would be to play Japan and kill the UK before USA joins (as well as Portugal, and France and all of China). Annex Manchuria and Mengkukuo and release PRC with all their cores.... I don't know if that works but my guess is it does.

 

[mjb2k]

Wait, the description of the achievement is



If it's what you say, shouldn't it be "With Mao as your leader, own all Chinese core territories and be at peace" or something? I've been trying to win the Chinese Civil War as Communist China.

It requires you to OWN all of your cores not occupy. Which means it turns into a WC.

 

[amocpower]

First 5 years is always very crictical for tiny countires. I´ll try today it again. Wich doctrine did you use?

I think an easier way would be to play Japan and kill the UK before USA joins (as well as Portugal, and France and all of China). Annex Manchuria and Mengkukuo and release PRC with all their cores.... I don't know if that works but my guess is it does.

No it will not work. You can only finish achivments with country thats you start. E.g. you can complate UK achievments after you release Egypt and play as.

 

[Gort11]

It requires you to OWN all of your cores not occupy. Which means it turns into a WC.

Sure, but my point is that the achievement description just says "Win the Chinese Civil War with Mao as your leader". It doesn't say a thing about owning specific cores. It's extremely misleading.

 

[Hopit]

Sure, but my point is that the achievement description just says "Win the Chinese Civil War with Mao as your leader". It doesn't say a thing about owning specific cores. It's extremely misleading.

I honestly think they forgot about the european colonies in china

 

[aronnov]

I honestly think they forgot about the european colonies in china

Either that or they did evil laughter while making those achievements

 

[Tarkilth]

I had the unfortunate experience of realising that there were Chinese cores held by Westerners when playing Nat.China recently and the game I had planned out suddenly became a lot longer and harder than I initially thought. (Ah, let's just sit here and chill farming some FM xp and then push the invaders off the mainland while integrating the warlords one by one... OH WAIT)