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in exactly 2 hours i ll need go
HG is avaible to sub me,and i wont allow none to choose my sub
the silly complains of Daniel have avoided us to have a new perm for bra,damaging the game
now,he pretends to choose my sub
this is ridiculus
i wont be subbed by anyone if not HG
or,after a bra,is better u start to find also a new OE
 

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Dago said:
in exactly 2 hours i ll need go
HG is avaible to sub me,and i wont allow none to choose my sub
the silly complains of Daniel have avoided us to have a new perm for bra,damaging the game
now,he pretends to choose my sub
this is ridiculus
i wont be subbed by anyone if not HG
or,after a bra,is better u start to find also a new OE

if dago quits over this daniel-hg issue i resign to remember that
 

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i think is the 2nd time i threaten to quit,in 1 year and half
i hate do this
but really this situation is getting hilarius
Daniel (and a bit also my friend Pibe) have stopped us to find a new perm for Bra
now,i agree that HG isnt the more reliable person,but i was sure he ended this
and anyway,i could swear on my home that bra wont have matters for at least 4-5 sessions
but NO,Daniel wont play if HG is perm,damaging all us
ok ok,i say myself,mostly coz i respect Zeit as fellow and GM
but now,Sir Daniel pretends to choose my sub????
sorry,but i wont allow this

Edit : i have some of ur ideas about another guy,Daniel..He is sterkam,but i wouldnt mind if he subs
and this coz the time of all is more important than my personal issues
if u dont understandthis,i advice u to come back at SP and the challenging AI
 

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i came back right now
sorry,a my friend will leave for brazil this sunday,for 3 months about
i couldnt miss it
many hot girls in disco,anyway :rolleyes:
what happened btw?
i ll come back sunday evening
 

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To Temu:
Not much was accomplished on the economic front, and income even fell under my reign :(. Some colonisation was done too, but not much.

I reached lt26 at least, as per your instructions. The poor economy etc. was largely due to a fairly long war with Sweden. Lt26 was only reached towards the end of the session, as much investment was needed in stability unfortunately.

Austria asked for Russia's help versus either Sweden or OE and as you'd said that Sweden was Russia's number 1 enemy I choose to dow Sweden in order to take some of the burden off KJ's shoulders. Even though I had the surprise the war started badly with some silly mistakes, resulting in many men being lost to attrition. Sweden then made a big attack into Russia and managed to get several provinces and started to stabhit Russia. Eventually Russian might started to prevail and Sweden has been largely pushed back now. Fresh attacks were being arranged as we ended too, and as Sweden has gotten itself fairly high we/rr now, these new offensives should be quite successful, Russia is definately in shape for several more years of war at least.

I chose not to mint during the session and the war was largely funded by Russia's already hefty coffers and then yearly taxes, however some minting may be required next session, particularly if you take the war up a step to "all-out" war which I hadnt really done, as a result of being unsure of OE's neutrality etc.

Hopefully all will go well and Austria will beat France/Sweden and Russia will beat Sweden and perhaps get some baltic ports or something. The decrease in income should also be fairly quickly regained as a result of stab getting in the positive again, so trade should be easy enough to sort out again.

Thanks for a fun "half" session and thanks for letting me sub, I hope I havent done anything too bad with Russia :).
 
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I have other news. I'm probably going to learn how to mod this week :)

I know it'll be a pain for everyone, but I want to change the text of what's appearing in the log. In particular I don't want anymore "accepted our generous peace offer" for the host. It's a relatively minor issue, but I want it fixed, since it's absolutely crucial for automation that the logs be correct and informative.

I'll let you guys know more when I know it.

The alternative is to publish an alternative version of text.csv. My fear is however that modifying it will change the checksum and make it impossible to play with other players. I'll do some testing with it and find out-- maybe that's a harmless change.
 
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Dago said:
i think is the 2nd time i threaten to quit,in 1 year and half
i hate do this

...

but now,Sir Daniel pretends to choose my sub????
sorry,but i wont allow this

When I saw that a certain player (X) would enter the game I contacted the GM and told him I would not play vs him and that I offered my resignation if the GM chose him instead of me. The GM choose me and since all appeared to be in the know-how I thought my problems was gone. Not in my wildest dreams did I envisage that one of the other players in the same game would insist on having X as sub.

If one player, in this case me, makes it clear that he definitely does not want to play vs a certain player, X, and then later on another player, that is you, in the same game proceed to choose X as his sub and declares that you won't have any other sub, I find that quite remarkable. I would never do that to a fellow gamer. :(

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Apart from that, during the 2nd half of the game, when X subbed, me and him had a rather close and highly enjoyable cooperation vs the evil aggressor in Vienna.
 

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Daniel A said:
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Apart from that, during the 2nd half of the game, when X subbed, me and him had a rather close and highly enjoyable cooperation vs the evil aggressor in Vienna.

i hoped for that ;)
you where stubborn but thanks to dago you where forced to play with hg and have fun
 
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AAR FRA 1643-1662

Soon after start a certain nation suggested a gangbang of Austria before they reached LT26, It was rumoured 5 nations would take part in this endeavour. However FRA made the comment that this appeared "unsporty" but nevertheless was favourably inclined to the basic proposition.

However, all plans came to naught when the devious Emperor had to be away for the first 30 minutes, while all his investments were put into LT. Thus ensuring that he would be not have to face a gangbang until he were ready. When questioned upon this matter the Emperor fervently denied that this was anything but a coincidence, although he admitted it was not disadvantageous for the Empire.

Soon after the rehost when HG entered the play as OE pledges of support were shared between those nations who appreciated the importance of standing up at an über-Austria at trade tech 7 and huge trade income, quite remarkable in itself.

Not many months passed before Austria DOWed OE. FRA entered the war half a year later and so did SWE. FRA attacked Italy in the South and the Netherlands in the North. In the latter area cooperation with the Swedes meant that soon all of it was occupied by the good forces. In the South battles were hard with a super-Austrian leader 3-7-5 killed many more French soldiers than he lost himself.

The battle war score therefore rapdily increased for Austria while the province captured war score was postive for FRA. When FRA could move men from the North down to the South the Emperor did something foolish, he left Italy and sent his men to the North. At least that how it appeared from the French point of view. It may also be that he focused on pushing OE out of the war. Anyhow it meant that Turenne et all could unopposed descend on the Lombardian plain laying siege to Lombardia, assaulting Emilia and Mantua and pushing even into Salzburg from where 73k ottomans in Vienna could be spotted. THis was the height of the war as far as FRA is concerned.

Now there was the jewel, Venice with its COT. Ah, what a price the king of France said to himself and immediately dispatched Turenne with 40k to assualt the fortress. Little did the king contemplate the fact that passage into Venice was allowed by the Emperor whose fleet in the Adriatic was impressive indeed. :wacko: Venice was taken by assault and instead of just issuing the stab hit the king instead triumphantly messaged to all that now he was stabhitting Austria, and then proceded to contemplate over what to ask for. Just 1 second before the stab hit was to be sent a likewise triumphant message could be seen on the screen: No you are not! Because a few seconds before AUS captured a province in the north thus reducing the war score below the limit. To the utter humiliation of the king he now tried to move Turenne and found that the marechal could not be moved. He was trapped in Venice by a fleet outside. I imagine many readers of this AAR now ask themselves: how ignorant and stupid can an experienced player be? The answer to this: there is no limit. :eek:o

Because the biggest blunder of them all was committed at the start of the war. The king asked himself: should I claim DotF or not? He decided not because of the penalty on tech speed, and he knew he really needed to invest in LT. Luckily SPA owed FRA 3000d so that paid the expenses during the first 2-3 years of the war. Later on AUS claimed DotF and thus FRA had to phase not only a CRT level disdvantage but as well 0.5 in moral extra.

AUS proceeded to proclaim to the world that now would he kill Turenne. :eek: First he sent in 40k and lost with Turenne down to 20 something. Then another 30 with Turenne winning again, now down to 12. Meanwhile the French galley fleet of some 30 ships had sailed from Poitou and was now past Mallorca. Together with the whole OE navy, some 700 ships, they arrived outside Albania and could spot the main Austrian fleet of some 750 sails outside Dalmatia while AUS kept only 13 outside Venice. The order to advance was given and both fleets majesticly sailed to the North and then.... the Ottoman admiral noticed that AUS had a CRT level advantage and thus the admiral wet his trousers and ordered retreat to the dismay of the brave French sailors who had to follow suit. All this occurred before Turenne was attacked the first time. The French fleet went to Cyernaica and waited for an opportunity. And it did arrrive. FRA had sent a small galley fleet (some 12 galleys) to help a siege in Liguria and the Emperor had a mental collapse and sent all his galleys to kill this fleet. Thus FRA got the message on the screen that the fleet was attacked and killed outside Liguria and the whole Austrian fleet was on display :D . Thus the french fleet immediately left Cyrenaica sailing into the Adriatic and destroying the Austrian small galley fleet outside Venice. However, only a week before Turenne had been killed.. only a week before.. :(

From this it was downhill. OE was stabhitted out of the war and SWE was DOWed by Russia and had to leave the arena. Thus it rested on FRA alone to represent the free world. FRA has now fought alone vs Austria for more than three years and the position is not good. Luckily SWE sent a mediumsized army just a few months ago into Holland and repaired the position somewhat.

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The present war score is on stabhit level for FRA and we have taken one so far IIRC. But we are only half a year away from LT26. We are hardpressed but with stab costs low it is possible to survive a few years more and in 22 months the truce between OE and AUS expires.

The emperor as always has sent very limited peace proposals offering to take only Piemonte. Threatening that next session BB will be played by a human, indicating that they will be hostile towards FRA.

All offers has been rejected.

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The number of losses in this session offers an interesting reading

AUS 1.3
SWE 1.2 (no doubt it is SWE that buys all the mercs)
FRA 1.1
OE 0.9
RUS 0.7 (although I believe RUS may have fought other wars as well)

Anyhow this says something about the price to pay for them figthing a fire 7 general with a CRT disadvantage.

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During all these wars the King of SPA had a brilliant possibility to take back from Austria the gold mines in America since the bankruptcy events are long gone now. But did he do that? No. He stayed at peace and developed his nation.

During all these wars the king of England had a brilliant possibility to squash his main trade antagonist, but did he do that? No. He stayed at peace and developed his nation.

Both these monarchs may however regain their good will with the king of FRA by simply sending some state gifts which will enable FRA to put up new regiments while still pushing 100% into LT.

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Next Friday I cannot play. It is Midsummers eve in Sweden. All Swedes, including myself, go away to friends, except those to whom friends are coming, and drink, drink a lot. It is an old heathen tradition to celebrate the summer solstice. I will try to find a sub although it is quite difficult in this game with its late end time.

I would be happy if such a skilful player as HG would take it upon his shoulders trying to salvage FRA in this precarious situation. :)
 
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Zeitgeist said:
Incidentally, if you're finding province ids to be annoying, check this resource out.

The site is Daywalker's and the maps are JP's.

http://www.lhjworld.sa-net.dk/

The maps are under Handy maps, just down the page.

I know that site, it is very usefull.
 

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Zeitgeist said:
I have other news. I'm probably going to learn how to mod this week :)

I know it'll be a pain for everyone, but I want to change the text of what's appearing in the log. In particular I don't want anymore "accepted our generous peace offer" for the host. It's a relatively minor issue, but I want it fixed, since it's absolutely crucial for automation that the logs be correct and informative.

I'll let you guys know more when I know it.

The alternative is to publish an alternative version of text.csv. My fear is however that modifying it will change the checksum and make it impossible to play with other players. I'll do some testing with it and find out-- maybe that's a harmless change.

It will be not pain at all. If you will make changes without causing ctds it can be very interesting.
 

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Spain Aar 1643 - 1662

SPAIN AAR 1643 - 1662


Dear D. H. de C.,

Golden age, truly in golden age we are living my friend. For more than three decades our kingdom is in peace with entire World, none hate us and we do not have internal enemies. Spanish, Poles and Jews, all of us live in peace and friendship. We all have same rights and share power equaly. I belive we can call it "Utopia" as our brother in faith - Thomas More once said.
Eh! I was praying for all of this many years, but I must say I did not belive God will listen mine, and not only mine, prayers... I am shame of this now and ask Lord for forgivenes.

I am only afraid that this times of peace made our ruler a little lazy. Army of 250k man is not sufficient to defend empire, and 400 old type galleys will stand no chance against other fleets. That is why I am asking you, my dear friend, to come back to Spain again and speak with monarch.
He think you are 300 years old and have connection to secret templars... I know it is silly, but I did not disabuse him, because it will help your influence on him. Please leave your beloved Krakow and come to Castilla. We need you, Empire need you!

In case you are not aware of our situation, I am attaching short brief of our political/economic status:


1. Spain bought 5 caraibean islands from France - conflict over SA finally ended.

2. Austria will take control over Romagna soon - monarch and council decided that there is no longer sense to keep that italian city, especially it has no port. Beside Austria is again in good relations with us, they will take care Romagna properly.

3. Saltillo is again spanish - we owe 800 gold to Austria for that province.

4. Land tech reached 26th level last year, now it is time to improve trade (England, Sweden and Austria still leading in this area!).

5. Inflation at normal level at last! Soon we will balance our income properly.

6. Many new colonies developed in America last years, they need some atention.

7. Unfortunately we lost manufacturies in Catalunya and Aragonia, now it is imperative to rebuild them.

I do not know what else intersts you... Spain did not fought any wars and did not make any changes in army. If you want more specify military report please write to me or ask general Zabaleta directly, he is fine officer and should help you.


I also attach portrait of me and my family.



velazquez.meninas.jpg

Diego Velasquez
Las Meninas (Maids of Honor)
1656-57
Museo del Prado, Madrid​


live long and prosper

V.
 
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Zeitgeist said:
You're correct, I thought I had been up to date, but it seems even I as GM was failing in my [...] duty :eek:

Zeit,

Can you update first post, so we can also manualy calculate points? I really like your program, but I want to know how much cost certain things for future actions.
 

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POWER:

Issuing a declaration of war against another human (3 point) = 0

Receiving a declaration of war from another human (3 point) = 0

Taking a province in war from a human (2 points per province) = 0 x 2 = 0

Force-Vassalization of a human (5 points) = 0

Winning a war in which you take no provinces and do not vassalize your opponent. (1 point) = 0

10 points at the end of every session will be distributed on the basis of maximum manpower = 2

Similarly, 10 points at the end of every session will be distributed on the basis of fleets = 1

Writing an AAR (+1 point) = 1

Points from previous session = 3

TOTAL = 7


PRESTIGE:

Having human vassals (+.5 prestige per European province owned by each vassal per session) = 0

Staying at peace for a session. (+5 prestige) = 5

Owning CoTs (+2 prestige per CoT per session) = 6

Owning European provinces (+1 prestige per European province per session) = 30

Owning colonial provinces (+.25 prestige per non European province) = 16.75

Winning a war (+3 prestige) = 0

50 prestige points will be distributed on the basis of percentage of income. = 9

Being the leader in a technology (+1 prestige for each leader in each category) = 0

Existing! (+25 prestige) = 25

Increasing your income (+1 prestige per 20% increase) = 2

Guaranteeing the independence of another human nation (+5 prestige) = 0

Writing AAR = 2

Previous = 1.5

Losing province = 0

TOTAL = 97.25
 
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admiral drake said:
i hoped for that ;)
you where stubborn but thanks to dago you where forced to play with hg and have fun


i ve won my most difficult battle :rolleyes:
 

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It seems that I'd have to mod EU2.exe to change the logs.

But jdrou produced a neat solution I hadn't thought of -- combining a client and a host save to get comprehensive logs. None of you would happen to have end of last session saves by any chance would you? Please ICQ me if so.

Basically what this means is that I want two saves-- the host save to go on stats and a client save for log parsing. I think we could do that and thereby achieve the holy grail of automation.
 

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  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis III
This is mostly a reminder for myself as to what I need to be doing, but also a reminder to everyone about the upcoming changes.

  • Increase deflation costs
  • DoWing / Receiving a DoW is now worth 3 Power Points
  • Naval.csv will be used (as of next session, after I code it in) to determine the relative worth of fleets. Particularly the shock and fire values (and tech level) will be taken more into consideration. Warships will also receive a 30% bonus to reflect their reach and mobility.
  • Barracks and shipyards will now increase in cost by 1 power to the base cost per additional one in existence.
  • Provinces are now worth 1 power apiece when taken in war.
  • Nations will receive a power point for every year that they are at war with a human nation. However, you may not count this twice. For example, if Austria is at war with the Ottoman Empire from 1504-1508 and at war with France from 1507-1510, it may only claim 1504-1510 = 6 years worth of war.
  • Some adjustment to MT contingent on the above may be made to reflect not only number of wars, but years fought.
  • Bonuses for increasing territory size (European will be weighted more of course) and increasing manpower, both absolutely and relatively are being evaluated.
  • Penalties for losing wars will be removed.
  • The bonus prestige for winning a war is now 2 * the number of years the war was fought. So long wars yield more prestige.
  • Putting in a province transfer mechanism
  • Putting in a vassal transfer mechanism
 
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