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The years 1510 to 1536 were ones of mixed success for the French crown. The era started with a bitter war against the Austrians. We were losing badly, yet the strength of our general Navarre still gave us hope. However, this hope was cruelly dashed due to his untimely and tragic death, after which the King admitted defeat and yielded Savoie and Lorraine to the Austrians.

The Austrians released those as satellite states (partly to spite our King no doubt).

The next few years were ones of peaceful rebuilding. In the late 1530s, the Ottomans were at war with the Austrians. The King first made overtures to purchase Artois from the Austrians, but then reneged on his decision and instead invaded. Taking advantage of the Austrian distraction in the Balkans, the small Austrian forces guarding the border were quickly dislodged or eliminated and many Austrian territories occupied. Then, disaster struck! The Ottomans had given in to the Austrians and an army under Frundsberg was fast approaching. Rather than face this esteemed general, le Roi decided to lower his demands and accept Artois and Franche-Comte in exchange for peace.
 

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right zeit
i m very silly, we talked about it yesterday and then i asked for naval and weapon
lol
btw,i ve spent 58 and so i ve still 20,5 avaible

10 for good manu in aleppo (485)
3 for +1 tax value in kirkuk (473)
3 for +1 tax value in nuyssabin (486)
3 for +1 tax value in adana (483)

19 spent more
1,5 for next session
 

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England 1510-1536


-The english emerged from a period of chaos and war and finaly received the service of a brave conquisitador who was willing to explore the vast lands of the new world
-while this brave and forgotten conquisitador explored for the king of england a war was fought with the schottish over supremacy wich the english won in the end by taking control of all of schotland except edingburg
-the english knowledge of weaponry and late renaissance infrastructre was vastly improved with the discovery of infra3 and naval technologie bronze cannons
-thanks to the brae men under command of the forgotten conqusitador most of the northern lands of the new world are now mapped , and most of the coasts claimed and occupyd

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"April 1, 1513 : Fortification Effort happened to us."
"June 13, 1513 : Gain! awaits your command in Anglia."
"May 3, 1514 : My Lord, our State Gift has enormously improved our relations with Brandenburg. They should be regarded as completely neutral."

"March 12, 1516 : We discovered Nova Scotia"
"June 8, 1516 : We discovered Gaspésie"
"July 28, 1516 : We discovered Micmac"
"September 28, 1516 : We discovered Bangor"
"November 1, 1516 : Our naval technology level increased to Late Medieval (7). (no bonus effect)"
"November 17, 1516 : We discovered Penobscot"
"January 27, 1517 : We discovered Massachussetts"
name = "March 26, 1517 : We discovered Connecticut"
"June 7, 1517 : We discovered Manhattan"
"October 22, 1517 : We discovered Chesapeake"
"January 7, 1518 : We discovered Roanoke"
"March 7, 1518 : We discovered Santee"

"May 29, 1518 : My Lord, our State Gift has considerably improved our relations with Brandenburg. They should be regarded as our friends."

"September 30, 1518 : We discovered Seminole"
"November 23, 1518 : We discovered Everglades"
"April 8, 1519 : We discovered Mobile"
"June 5, 1519 : We discovered Biloxi"
"August 21, 1519 : We discovered Bayou"
"November 19, 1519 : We discovered Wichita"

"December 2, 1519 : Internal Trade Ordinance happened to us."
"December 23, 1519 : We discovered Concho"
"May 22, 1520 : We discovered Tuscaloosa"

"June 1, 1520 : You were promoted to Marquis."
"July 8, 1520 : We discovered Tennessee"
"September 8, 1520 : We discovered Alabama"
"December 4, 1520 : We discovered Alleghany"
"February 8, 1521 : We discovered Catawba"
"April 23, 1521 : We discovered Appalache"
"June 7, 1521 : We discovered Kentucky"
"August 7, 1521 : We discovered Miamis"

"August 8, 1521 : Unhappiness among the Peasantry happened to us."
"September 15, 1521 : We discovered Illinois"
"October 19, 1521 : We discovered Milwaukee"
"January 29, 1522 : We discovered Arkansas"
"March 2, 1522 : We discovered Oklahoma"
"April 14, 1522 : We discovered Llano Estacado"

"May 8, 1522 : France declared war upon us!"
Scotland joined the war on the same side as France in their war against England."
"May 19, 1522 : We discovered Colorado"
"June 21, 1522 : We discovered El Paso"
"July 24, 1522 : We discovered Pecos"
"August 26, 1522 : We discovered Rio Grande"
"October 5, 1522 : We went with Settle Issue in Boundary Dispute."

"December 1, 1522 : Our naval technology level increased to Late Medieval (9). Bronze Cannon Armament "
"June 20, 1523 : We captured the province of Strathclyde from Scotland"
"July 3, 1523 : We discovered Catskill"
"August 13, 1523 : We discovered Susquehanna"
"October 3, 1523 : We discovered Powhatan"
"January 18, 1524 : We discovered Tuscarora"
"March 17, 1524 : We discovered Irondekoit"
"June 29, 1524 : We discovered Mohawk"
"August 25, 1524 : We discovered Oswego"
"October 21, 1524 : We discovered Adirondak"
"December 6, 1524 : We discovered Sebago"
"May 1, 1525 : We discovered Bas St-Laurent"
"June 27, 1525 : We discovered Stadacone"
"December 1, 1526 : Our infrastructure was improved to Late Renaissance (3). We can now build Refineries."
"October 27, 1529 : Non-enforcement of Ordinances happened to us."
"October 23, 1530 : A new Center of Trade has opened in Anglia."
"April 29, 1531 : Agg! awaits your command in Anglia."
"February 8, 1534 : We went with Take Command of the Church of England in The Act of Supremacy."
"March 27, 1534 : We changed our religion to Catholic."
 
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Disposition for France, 1536

Power:

From Before : 6 pwp
Manpower : 1 pwp
Fleet : 2 pwp
Issuing a DoW to Austria : 1 pwp
Winning two provs in war : 4 pwp

Total : 14 pwp

Prestige :

From Before : 0 prp
European Cities 29 * 1 + 2 (3 Polish provs + Rousillon split with Spain) = 31 prp
Colonial Cities : 1 * .25 = .25 prp
CoTs : 1 * 2 = 2 prp
Income increase : 26.5% (265.8 on 996.3) = 2 prp
Existing : 10 prp
Income percentage : 6 prp
Winning a war : 3 prp
Losing a war : -2 prp
Losing 2 provinces : -6 prp

Total : 46.25 prp

Expenditures:

Power:

CC in Ile de France (385) : 10 points
+2 manpower in Ile de France (385) : 4 points

Remaining Power : 0 pwp

Prestige:

+10% population in Ile de France (385) : 3 points
+10% population in Orleanais : 3 points
+10% population in Champagne : 3 points
+2 tax value in Ile de France (385) : 6 points
+2 tax value in Provence (406) : 6 points
Goods manufactory in Artois (379) : 20 points
+1 tax value in Gascogne (418) : 3 points

Remaining Prestige : 2.25 prp
 

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Dago said:
right zeit
i m very silly, we talked about it yesterday and then i asked for naval and weapon
lol
btw,i ve spent 58 and so i ve still 20,5 avaible

10 for good manu in aleppo (485)
3 for +1 tax value in kirkuk (473)
3 for +1 tax value in nuyssabin (486)
3 for +1 tax value in adana (483)

19 spent more
1,5 for next session

Dago, once again you've erred, I'm afraid. The goods manu will cost you 20 (as it would be your second, and the cost is doubled since you don't have the technology). So your second goods is (5+5) * 2 = 20. your third would be (5 + 10 ) * 2 = 30 and so on.
 

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Military Tradition:

Austria:

2 from before
-1 degradation
+1 + .5 for war & victory over OE
+.5 for war against France

Total : 3

France:

3 from before
-1.5 degradation
+1 +.5 for war & victory over Austria

Total : 3

England :

2 from before
-1 degradation

Total : 1

OE:

1 from war vs Austria

Total : 1
 

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Leaders generated. Here's the deal. I've uploaded the edited save and everything to stats, so you can look around if you want. Also I generated leaders, so hopefully everything should be good to go. I'm not sure how Tonio's works... i.e. if you guys can dl the save with the leaders in them, but I'll try to pass them along to someone before I go anywhere.

I have a court appearance at 1 EST (game starts at 4:30 for me) due to a spat with my landlord and I have no idea how long that will take. So there is a small chance that I might be late, so go ahead and start without me if I'm not there. France should be fine AI and hopefully won't do anything too stupid.

Also, if possible I think we'll need two subs. One for Temu's Russia and one for Brandenburg. So please start looking.
 

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omg i just noticed the leaders generated , zeit you got shitty luck 4/5 of those leaders for all players are like 222 - 223 232 :eek:
 

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1problem tonio has to fix btw

i can see the list of generated leaders but don't have a link to dl it i gues if zeit isn't intime i could just regenerate quick......
 

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Zeitgeist said:
Dago, once again you've erred, I'm afraid. The goods manu will cost you 20 (as it would be your second, and the cost is doubled since you don't have the technology). So your second goods is (5+5) * 2 = 20. your third would be (5 + 10 ) * 2 = 30 and so on.


ok,i l luse the 10,5 in such way :
3 for +1 tax value in irak (489)
3 for +1 tax value in konya (482)
3 for +1 tax value in aleppo (485)

1,5 for next session
 

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Zeitgeist said:
Edits done so far:

Spain:

conversion of Cajamarca (165) = -8
conversion of Ayacucho (167) = -8
conversion of Cuzco (169) = - 8 pp
conversion of Potosi (194) = -8
conversion of Tucuman (219) = -8
conversion of Arica (172) = -8
conversion of Moquega (171) = -8

TOTAL = 7 x (-8) = -56 prestige

Do not forget about editing polish proves to me and add canry and maltese culture. I also asked for war academy in Granada.
 

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this is my final requests i think,after my problem of compreansion

5 for refenery in ionia (479)
10 for refenery in smyrna (478)
6 for convert corfu (820)
6 for +2 tax value in thrace (357)
3 for +10% population in thrace (+22168 ) (357)
6 for +2 tax value in sinai (494)
4 for art academy in egypt (746)
6 for +2 tax value in macedonia (358)
6 for +2 tax value in rumelia (321)
6 for convert moldova (318)
3 for +1 tax value in kirkuk (473)
3 for +1 tax value in nuyssabin (486)
3 for +1 tax value in adana (483)
3 for +1 tax value in irak (489)
3 for +1 tax value in konya (482)
3 for +1 tax value in aleppo (485)

total 76,that means 2,5 left

i think u forgot the art academy in egypt

edit : i ve rethink about,and it would be 2# and it would cost me 4+5,right?

ok,i wont ask more : my total prestige used will be 72 and 6,5 for next session
 
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admiral drake said:
1problem tonio has to fix btw

i can see the list of generated leaders but don't have a link to dl it i gues if zeit isn't intime i could just regenerate quick......

Are these leaders add to save or we have to edit that manualy?
 

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ok,2 calculos :D

firenze : (3+0+2)x2=10
marche : (3+0+1)x2=8
siena : (3+0+1)x2=8
rome : (3+0+5)x2=16
napoli : (3+0+3)x2=12

54

yeah,i think i ll get enough
 

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Okay guys it seems I missed some edits last session.

Here's what I want from you:

-- Concentrate your requests in one post. I might miss requests in multiple posts because I don't know it.

-- Make your requests explicit. I don't know what provinces are state religion and which are not, for example, and I'm not going to hunt through your entire nation looking for them.

-- Please, please, please, for the love of god, post province IDs at a minimum. If you're asking for a manufactory of any sort, a shipyard, or a barracks, post the city name too - that'll help me immensely. If you're asking for tax value, post the province name.

And for my part, I'll try to be better about informing you when I don't make an edit for whatever reason.
 

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i had some time,so i wanted note for myself the points

power
+2 for 2 declaration of war vs spain
+2 for have been dowed by austria
+4 for the 4 provs taken by spain
+1 for victory vs spain
(198,8/1025*10=1.94 : is 1 or 2?) for MP
for fleet i ll wait zeit :rolleyes:
+1 for AAr

10+MP and fleet bonuses

prestige

+4 for 2 COT
+40 for european provs (by zeit orders after first session,i noticed my european prov are +15 respect the stats of tonio)
+13 for tot european (26*0,5)
+3 for won vs spain
+1 for leading LT
+1 for leading NT
10 for existing
5 for have increased income of 50%
2 for AAR
+6,5 by previous session

85,5
 

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Playing at 3 am is not good, and it is definitely unhealtly. Now when I close my eyes I see only communicats about rebels :wacko: I felt into some kind of trans yesterday...

Nice fighting dago, I like this war. Next session we will continue.

Anyway, I am not going to gave up OE! I take care about rebels, rr is lowering and I have your fleet in cage! Surrender!

Beside I booked flight to Firenze for next friday dago... I am going to come to your house, terrorise you, take control over your computer and play as OE instead of you. I will screw it a little and than go back to Krakow :p

Now I am going fishing. I need some fresh air after this bloody night.

See you on weekdays
 

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austrian fleet helped u a lot ,HAL
and i sent u also nice and low demands,but u preferred be stabhitted and get country screwed by rebels
btw is ok,is rigth : lets figth
but when this war will be finished,dont say that i m evil