Thirst for Glory II - Power & Prestige system game

[admiral drake]

Hal,

Sure. I'll figure it out.

As far as edits, I'd like (and I think Austria deserves) the following:

1. Its loans deleted
2. Inflation cut by 7 points (12 points were run up last session, presumably fighting silly novice wars, and it's really too high pre-Governors; its tech will be a disaster)
3. Its DP sliders fixed. It appears the perm put them into Quality, Centra, Inno and Free Subjects. I'd like one inno, one centra, one quality and one free subjects removed and turned into Offensive

That should do it.

The reason is, generally after play that is demonstrably poor a new perm gets a few reasonable edits to make the country playable. Which is not to say that this Austria is strictly unplayable as it is, but it's on a very slippery slope that, with wars looming, will likely lead it to being so. 12 points of inflation in a single session is absurd. If you want to delete all of Austria's colonies and remove all of its inflation in turn, go ahead. I don't even care how many there are. Racking up that much is awful. Was it a bankruptcy or something?

And you have to go Offensive first. That's the name of the game. So I don't think it's unreasonable to fix that.

Otherwise, I'd like to speak to the French, Ottoman, Russian and Spanish players as soon as possible. My ICQ, for those who don't know it, is 273839083. I'd also, of course, be interested in speaking to Sweden.

i agree with hg that its ussually the case new players gets a few edits if the pevious messed up and iirc urko did kinda mess up last session (didn't do bad before tho)

other side spanish player probaly quit so not sure if you can expect him but i did ask kj to take over and he can't say for sure if he can till jan

and china always likes to be forgotten, austria wil be on my list of bans moment he finds my maps and i get trade 4 (not that i have anything to discuss just don't like to be left out)

colonise of austria is about half of carribean i think

 

[admiral drake]

TAG = CHI
prestige = 75.9
power = 8.88

culture bengali
culture burmanese
culture malay
manufactory 1563 navalequipment

TAG = CHI
prestige = 75.9
power = 8.88

culture burmanese
culture malay
culture japanese
manufactory 649 luxury
manufactory 688 refinery

manufactory 1563 navalequipment

if you can fix the bengali issue keep quoted orders if you can't fix it or edit manualy then lowest orders aply

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

Hal,

Sure. I'll figure it out.

As far as edits, I'd like (and I think Austria deserves) the following:

1. Its loans deleted
2. Inflation cut by 7 points (12 points were run up last session, presumably fighting silly novice wars, and it's really too high pre-Governors; its tech will be a disaster)
3. Its DP sliders fixed. It appears the perm put them into Quality, Centra, Inno and Free Subjects. I'd like one inno, one centra, one quality and one free subjects removed and turned into Offensive

That should do it.

The reason is, generally after play that is demonstrably poor a new perm gets a few reasonable edits to make the country playable. Which is not to say that this Austria is strictly unplayable as it is, but it's on a very slippery slope that, with wars looming, will likely lead it to being so. 12 points of inflation in a single session is absurd. If you want to delete all of Austria's colonies and remove all of its inflation in turn, go ahead. I don't even care how many there are. Racking up that much is awful. Was it a bankruptcy or something?

And you have to go Offensive first. That's the name of the game. So I don't think it's unreasonable to fix that.

Otherwise, I'd like to speak to the French, Ottoman, Russian and Spanish players as soon as possible. My ICQ, for those who don't know it, is 273839083. I'd also, of course, be interested in speaking to Sweden.

OK I agree. Your inflation will be cut by half to 6% and DP sliders change according to your suggestions (I will upload new save soon).

"I'll figure it out", there is no Poland on diplomatic list... I am starting to worry. I said many times, that I do not want conflict with Austria, but their presence in North Germany is big problem for Sweden and Poland, that is why we interfere.

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

BTW I found the way to post stats of edited save (same date, but with "edited" word). But if you want to test it you need to delete "edited" in global data line:

globaldata = {
startdate = { year = 1542edited month = january day = 5 }

 

[HolisticGod]

Hal,

Appreciate it. How much prestige/power does Austria have, by the way?

And Poland is on the Will Receive list, but not, as long as it holds any part of Bohemia, the Send A Fruit Basket list.

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

well it sucks since only reason i annexed bengali was to be able to convert it quick

edit : try deleting the tradepost on the 10the prov then run program and see if he will accept it then

edit again : if that doesn't work i have to change my order i gues , would be nice to be fixed by next week tho even if program won't process it it can always be done manual

Drake,

I found what is going on. It was Palakimedi province. I gave you TP level 1 there, so now you can claim bengali culture.

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

other side spanish player probaly quit so not sure if you can expect him but i did ask kj to take over and he can't say for sure if he can till jan

I have no idea what is happening with TrAsH...

About KJ as Spain - can he play at 21CET? In TfG1 he could not.

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

Hal,

Appreciate it. How much prestige/power does Austria have, by the way?

Statistics from europa2.ru, P&P Points and Edits requests can be found here SECOND PAGE, POSTS 26,27,28

 

[EarendilHE]

tag = MOG
prestige = 70.44
power = 4.88

culture marathi
culture baluchi
culture sikh
bbreduce 2
conversion 544
conversion 552
conversion 1520
conversion 1521
manufactory 1528 refinery

 

[Sander_NL]

I just opened the edited save to check, but it seems it starts in the year 0 is that correct?

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

I just opened the edited save to check, but it seems it starts in the year 0 is that correct?

If you want to test it you need to delete "edited" in global data line:

globaldata = {
startdate = { year = 1542edited month = january day = 5 }

 

[Papa Chubby]

I just wanted to give the heads up, I´m experiencing some difficulty with the internet at home. I should be able to play anyways, but the connection might be a bit more frail than the other one. There is also a slight chance that the provider will come take a look at it later today or tomorrow, but at least I should be able to play tomorrow. I will be posting edits later today, I hope thats alright with you Hal. Its just this has pushed me back a little bit.

Hal, it seems that everybody thinks that you are very bad Poland and you are attacing everybody around, why is that?

Well you have to give it to him, he´s been very active. Not that I´m complaining, Austria holding the Netherland, N-Italy and all of Germany is a behemoth most could do without. Besides with Hal handing out 2 explorers and conquistadors every session, as a colonizer I will need to make the most of any breathing space afforded to me by Hal´s warmongering.

Otherwise, I'd like to speak to the French, Ottoman, Russian and Spanish players as soon as possible. My ICQ, for those who don't know it, is 273839083. I'd also, of course, be interested in speaking to Sweden.

How annoying, not even on the new-guys VIP list. . Well I guess its just early England. I´ll just spend my time talking to Poland instead.

 

[unmerged(49459)]

Austria holding the Netherland, N-Italy and all of Germany is a behemoth most could do without.

Hmm, it's true that big and very powerfull austria was groing extrimly fast, one way or another, the war was not avoidable... France, Spain, Poland, Sweden and me there was always a treat to all from Austria wich could not be defeted by one enemy, and could defete more than one enemy at the time by herself..

 

[EarendilHE]

im sure there are only 3 provinces with marathi culture. maybe this is a similiar problem as drake´s. could you look at it hal? i count 12 points for marathi..

thx

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

im sure there are only 3 provinces with marathi culture. maybe this is a similiar problem as drake´s. could you look at it hal? i count 12 points for marathi..

thx

Yes, you are right, it is the same error. I gave you TP level 1 in Goa and now it is working as it should.

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

I just wanted to give the heads up, I´m experiencing some difficulty with the internet at home. I should be able to play anyways, but the connection might be a bit more frail than the other one. There is also a slight chance that the provider will come take a look at it later today or tomorrow, but at least I should be able to play tomorrow. I will be posting edits later today, I hope thats alright with you Hal. Its just this has pushed me back a little bit.

No problem.

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

Well you have to give it to him, he´s been very active. Not that I´m complaining, Austria holding the Netherland, N-Italy and all of Germany is a behemoth most could do without. Besides with Hal handing out 2 explorers and conquistadors every session, as a colonizer I will need to make the most of any breathing space afforded to me by Hal´s warmongering.

I do not understand what are you talking about...

 

[HolisticGod]

Hal,

Unfortunately, it appears my connection has become unplayable for reasons I can't ascertain. I thought the problem was the router, but connected directly to my modem last night I had terrible synch issues.

I've contacted my ISP, but they claim the problem is not with them and anyway they won't be able to send someone out until sometime after Christmas.

I can give it a whirl tomorrow, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

 

[HolisticGod]

Hal,

Orders. Go ahead and edit in our deal as of the last conversation if it's acceptable.

tag = HAB
prestige = 79
power = 30.96

bbreduce 15
manpower 349 2
manpower 372 2
manpower 370 2
manpower 331 2
manpower 373 2
manpower 389 2
manpower 348 2
manpower 350 1

By the way, didn't MP used to cost three? 15 manpower for 30 power is pretty huge, either way.

 

[unmerged(6147)]

By the way, didn't MP used to cost three? 15 manpower for 30 power is pretty huge, either way.

HoG,

It's the tax value that costs 3 (prestige points), the MP increase was always 2 (power points).

It would have been better if they did not begin with the same letter, then you could have abbreviated them to "pp" and whatever the other concept was called.