The parliament can now debate the three new proposals, as soon as Mr. Teano has provided us with the precise bills.
If no-one wants to make any more comments to the 2 pending bills, we shall commence voting tonight.
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The parliament can now debate the three new proposals, as soon as Mr. Teano has provided us with the precise bills.
If no-one wants to make any more comments to the 2 pending bills, we shall commence voting tonight.
I am here at the invitation of MoP Charles Morgan and approval by deputy speaker, Bramarius. It has been brought to my attention that there are some questions about the language in the part of the anti-terrorist bill that I wrote. Please feel free to ask for any clarifications or anything else related to this matter.
(OOC: do bills still need to be co-sponsored? If so, who did this with the worker's bill of rights and the university?)
(OOC: I don't think they need to be "co-sponsored" but I think they do need a second. I know, it's probably the same thing,
. I will find someone to second the Workers' Bill of Rights unless you, as a good voice of the workers, would like too?)
I hereby announce that I second the Worker's Bill of Rights. This bill can now officially be voted on.
(OOC: I will open a voting thread now)
(OOC: I will open a voting thread now)
I take it by the deafening silence that everyone is in complete agreement with my section of the Anti Terror Bill? Speak up, if you have any questions.
Speak up, if you have any questions.
Mr. Langley, I remember that you once submitted these articles at the MP for review, and my original objection still stands, how to define terrorism.
I have proposed parliament to start immediatly on a definition of terrorism, and to reuse that definition further in other Eutopian law. Do you think that the articles above would work well with a seperate definition of terrorism?
Mr Banér,
if you want to have a vote on the university bill, please find a seconder for it.
Thank you.
if you want to have a vote on the university bill, please find a seconder for it.
Thank you.
Government Reform Bill
Mr. Deputy Speaker,
I rise to introduce my first of three legislative proposals. I ask any of my colleagues who supports this idea to second it. I hope we can proceed with debate and move for a vote in the near future.
I would like to give special recognition to Mr. Philipp Schwarzerd for suggesting these reforms and for his work crafting the original proposal.
This proposal does two key things:
1) It speeds up the selection of a Speaker and thus allows the Parliament to begin each new term at a quicker pace.
2) It allows the President more duties, should he desire them, or alternatively it allows the President one more cabinet level advisor. This adds more viewpoints and perspectives to the government.
I ask for your support of this proposal.
Jack Teano
Moderate Party
Mr. Deputy Speaker,
I rise to introduce my first of three legislative proposals. I ask any of my colleagues who supports this idea to second it. I hope we can proceed with debate and move for a vote in the near future.
I would like to give special recognition to Mr. Philipp Schwarzerd for suggesting these reforms and for his work crafting the original proposal.
This proposal does two key things:
1) It speeds up the selection of a Speaker and thus allows the Parliament to begin each new term at a quicker pace.
2) It allows the President more duties, should he desire them, or alternatively it allows the President one more cabinet level advisor. This adds more viewpoints and perspectives to the government.
I ask for your support of this proposal.
Jack Teano
Moderate Party
Death Penalty Commission Bill
Mr. Deputy Speaker,
I rise again to introduce another measure, and I seek another member of parliament who will second this motion.
We all worked together to address the issue of the death penalty in the last term, then rushed through the agreement we had reached during the last term at the beginning of this term.
Unfortunately we were not prepared to act on these recommendations, and the commission that was supposed to meet to investigate the death penalty was never called.
Therefore I propose the following:
I hope you will all agree that this is a fair solution that will allow us to do the work which we all intended to have done.
This legislation is not a criticism of any member of Eutopia's government. No one is to blame for the commission's failure to meet. We simply did not provide clear direction as part of its creation.
I ask for your support of this bill.
Jack Teano
Moderate Party
Mr. Deputy Speaker,
I rise again to introduce another measure, and I seek another member of parliament who will second this motion.
We all worked together to address the issue of the death penalty in the last term, then rushed through the agreement we had reached during the last term at the beginning of this term.
Unfortunately we were not prepared to act on these recommendations, and the commission that was supposed to meet to investigate the death penalty was never called.
Therefore I propose the following:
I hope you will all agree that this is a fair solution that will allow us to do the work which we all intended to have done.
This legislation is not a criticism of any member of Eutopia's government. No one is to blame for the commission's failure to meet. We simply did not provide clear direction as part of its creation.
I ask for your support of this bill.
Jack Teano
Moderate Party
Fiscal Responsibility / Monarchy Bill
Finally, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I rise for my third legislative proposal.
It had been stated earlier by a member of parliament that he was concerned about the budget of Eutopia. Though the concerns of this member of parliament were clearly misplaced (he opposed a fiscally sound bill while proposing wasteful government spending of his own) it raises an important point: we must live within our means.
I seems that, if we can, we should terminate some useless government spending.
Thus, my proposal....
This is simple and straightforward.
Let us end this mistake now. Eutopians do not want to return to the kind of monarchy advocated by the CRE. The supporters of the commission betrayed the government's trust by establishing an unfair commission where dissenters were unallowed to vote. And finally, even the supporters have abandoned this commision.
I look for a member of parliament to second this motion, and I ask for your support.
Jack Teano
Moderate Party
Finally, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I rise for my third legislative proposal.
It had been stated earlier by a member of parliament that he was concerned about the budget of Eutopia. Though the concerns of this member of parliament were clearly misplaced (he opposed a fiscally sound bill while proposing wasteful government spending of his own) it raises an important point: we must live within our means.
I seems that, if we can, we should terminate some useless government spending.
Thus, my proposal....
This is simple and straightforward.
1) The Eutopian people, as evidenced by our past election, are overwhelmingly opposed to the restoration of the monarchy.
2) The commission, as it was formed, was stacked so that only supporters of the commission were allowed to vote. Thus the commission has no legitimacy or credibility.
3) The commission has not met in over a month.
Let us end this mistake now. Eutopians do not want to return to the kind of monarchy advocated by the CRE. The supporters of the commission betrayed the government's trust by establishing an unfair commission where dissenters were unallowed to vote. And finally, even the supporters have abandoned this commision.
I look for a member of parliament to second this motion, and I ask for your support.
Jack Teano
Moderate Party
Re: Fiscal Responsibility / Monarchy Bill
Where do you base the fact that the Eutopians dont want monarchy in some form? And this commitie does not consist of only CRE members, it is not designed to reinstate some CRE-type monarchy, it is created to look at the best way to reinstate monarchy if that is the will of the people. I see no reason to close this commitie. And AFAIK this commitie has no real impact on the budget.
I hereby second all three proposals made by Mr. Teano, namely:
A Proposal Concerning Restructuring our Government and the Nomination of Candidates For Speaker.
A Proposal to Schedule the Work of the Death Penalty Commission.
A Proposal to Terminate the Committee for Investigation of Resoration of the Eutopian Monarchy.
Mr Teano, about your first proposal, I'm missing infrastructure as an important item in a minister's portfolio, and I would like to see that the MTEF becomes responsible for infrastructure.
A Proposal Concerning Restructuring our Government and the Nomination of Candidates For Speaker.
A Proposal to Schedule the Work of the Death Penalty Commission.
A Proposal to Terminate the Committee for Investigation of Resoration of the Eutopian Monarchy.
Mr Teano, about your first proposal, I'm missing infrastructure as an important item in a minister's portfolio, and I would like to see that the MTEF becomes responsible for infrastructure.
(ooc: Sorry but I don't understand what you mean, maybe you can explain it in another way
)
ooc: you need two MP's to get your bill for voting, you got yourselve, now you need a second MP.
Mr. Wellesford,
Thank you for your support. I hoped that most of the "infrastructure" functions, such as energy, transportion, water & sewer, government owned telecommunications, etc. would fall under the new MTEF, even if the word "infrastructure" is not in the title. However, if I have left any other infrastructure service out of the MTEF portfolio that you think should be there, please let me know and I will certainly add it.
Note that there a few things some people might think of as "infrastructure" (such as shipping & navigation) that were placed under different ministries.
I'm open to any other suggestions you have about reorganizing any duties.
Thanks again to Mr. Philipp Schwarzerd for his work on the issue, and also for his suggestion about renaming the MHA the Ministry of Immigration and Law Enforcement (MILE) . I think that may be more descriptive and would like to amend the proposal in include this new name.
Jack Teano
Moderate Party
Re: Re: Fiscal Responsibility / Monarchy Bill
I would respectfully disagree with you, but I appreciate your debate of the proposal.
I base the fact the vast majority though not all Eutopians don't want the monarchy based on the presidential elections and the large mandate won by the anti-monarchy alliance.
I think this was a clear referedum on the issue.
As for the committee, there was an advisory/steering board that several parties could belong to, but the real power was on a smaller board that only CRE members, and a handful of their allies could serve on. Because of this, it became obvious that no real discussion that included the "cons" with the "pros" would take place.
I do not think we need a committee to investigate the best way to reinstate the monarchy if the majority of people do not want the monarchy. That is a waste of time.
Also, the committee did not come close to ever producing any sort of valuable report or recommendation.
I will agree that it probably does not use a lot of government money, but if it fails to meet its purpose and it is obsolete, then there is no reason we should keep paying for it. Any amount, if it is a waste, is too much.
Jack Teano
Moderate Party
I would respectfully disagree with you, but I appreciate your debate of the proposal.
I base the fact the vast majority though not all Eutopians don't want the monarchy based on the presidential elections and the large mandate won by the anti-monarchy alliance.
I think this was a clear referedum on the issue.
As for the committee, there was an advisory/steering board that several parties could belong to, but the real power was on a smaller board that only CRE members, and a handful of their allies could serve on. Because of this, it became obvious that no real discussion that included the "cons" with the "pros" would take place.
I do not think we need a committee to investigate the best way to reinstate the monarchy if the majority of people do not want the monarchy. That is a waste of time.
Also, the committee did not come close to ever producing any sort of valuable report or recommendation.
I will agree that it probably does not use a lot of government money, but if it fails to meet its purpose and it is obsolete, then there is no reason we should keep paying for it. Any amount, if it is a waste, is too much.
Jack Teano
Moderate Party
This is because all other parties wasn't interested. They where all invited, but the comitee almost recived letters where MoP and others said that the comitee was useless. It was constructed of monarchists, and also communists and experts on the area.