Things that have been changed and should be game rule options

[Riekopo]

There have been a significant number of changes done to CK2 that have not been for the better in my opinion. Many share that sentiment which is why all the game rule options were added I think. So it's possible to revert some of the changes but, not all of them.

I am not a new CK2 player. I've been playing since day one so I don't think my opinion is ignorant. There are some more things that I think should be added as game rule options. I currently use mods (when they are up to date) to achieve some of my wishes, but I think they should just be part of the vanilla game in the form of game rule options. I will list things I can remember off the top of my head at the moment.

• An option to enable all of the "Ambitions" that were removed when Way of Life and Conclave were released. An interesting roleplaying element that made your character feel like a person and should not have been removed.
• An option to enable all of the Events that were removed when Sons of Abraham, The Old Gods, Rajas of India, Way of Life, and Conclave were released. The removal of this massive amount of Events was a huge mistake. They added lots of flavor to the game and helped to hold off feelings of boredom and repetition.
• An option to enable the Decisions that were removed when Way of Life and Conclave were released.
• An option to enable the old portrait frames that were removed when Horse Lords was released. The new portrait frames were universally disliked and no one wanted them to be changed in the first place.
• An option to enable all DLC music tracks regardless of culture or religion. I've paid a lot of money for music tracks and I want to hear them all.
• An option to enable all of the old Laws and Obligations that were removed at some point (can't remember when). This includes Crown Authority, Internal Peace, and Vassal Obligations that actually make sense and are not confusing and are actually worth changing. I might be forgetting other Laws that were removed.
• An option that entirely removes the restrictions of Way of Life.
• An option that partially removes the restrictions of Way of Life. For example, instead of previously existing gameplay being separated and locked behind a paywall and long cooldown, all of the gameplay should be available to your character at a basic level. And your chosen Focus unlocks more advanced/higher tier options.

 

[LeSingeAffame]

An option to enable all DLC music tracks regardless of culture or religion. I've paid a lot of money for music tracks and I want to hear them all.

Isn't it already covered in the options ?

 

[Aardvark Bellay]

I agree, only that point 5 is actually covered by the game, as posted above.
Uncheck the option and you hear any music. I believe even Yuletide.

 

[Rubidium]

A lot of these things are available just by turning off the relevant DLC though? For instance without Conclave, the crown laws go back to the old way (and the old crown laws with Conclave would make no sense, since there are so few as to make voting irrelevant, especially without the relevant council powers enabled, so the only thing you'd be missing would be the Conclave education system).

I'm also not sure what you mean by "the restrictions of Way of Life?"

 

[faiuwle]

I didn't have the game before Way of Life, but I think what they are talking about is maybe that before Way of Life you used to be able to go on a great hunt, or a pilgrimage, or maybe do a duel or a carousing activity or something anytime you wanted, and when Way of Life came out you could only do those things if you had the relevant focus selected.

 

[Admiral_Obvious]

I'm pretty sure the Way of Life restrictions are in relation to some religions being unable to do certian focuses. For example, I believe Muslim rulers can't Carouse.

 

[faiuwle]

I mean, I can't imagine that they would have been able to carouse before Way of Life. This thread claims to be about restoring things that changed because of DLCs, not opening up possibilities that were never available in the first place.

 

[Admiral_Obvious]

I mean, I can't imagine that they would have been able to carouse before Way of Life. This thread claims to be about restoring things that changed because of DLCs, not opening up possibilities that were never available in the first place.

It could be both?

 

[Aardvark Bellay]

I'm pretty sure the Way of Life restrictions are in relation to some religions being unable to do certian focuses. For example, I believe Muslim rulers can't Carouse.

Muslims can carouse when they have certain traits.
http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Focus

By the way, there is a mod called Lost Content for a reason.
Anyway, he just asks for more game rules, whch was encouraged recently in a dev diary.
Maybe this should be elaborated on by the OP and rewritten for the Suggestions subforum.

 

[Enriador]

I would enjoy a Game Rule regarding marriages and another regarding Education, with a pre-Conclave option.

Marriages:
Option A) Marriages create a Non-Agression Pact, which can be upgraded into an Alliance. (Default)
Option B) Marriages create an Alliance. (It'd block achievements)

Education (Conclave owners only):
Option A) Children can have a Childhood Focus and an Education Focus. (Default)
Option B) Children must learn from their guardians alone.

None of these should be hard to implement, since the Marriage stuff was already in-game and Education is still in it, merely blocked for Conclave owners.

 

[Helios Panoptes]

Supernatural
All/None/For AI Too/No Chess with Death

 

[Rubidium]

Supernatural
All/None/For AI Too/No Chess with Death

I honestly find the immortality chain more annoying than Chess with Death. My character dies randomly all the time anyway, I don't care about just another way for that to happen. Immortality gives me the content trait when I turn it down, just because I'm not up for a crazy, supernatural attempt to live for ever.

 

[klopkr]

The option for this already exists. It's under the betas tab along with the game you bought when you first payed for it.

 

[vandevere]

I'd just like to have Opinion as a Game Rule.

Default would be what it is now.
High would be what it was before the devs bashed Opinion into the basement.
Low would be half of what it is now.

 

[faiuwle]

I honestly find the immortality chain more annoying than Chess with Death. My character dies randomly all the time anyway, I don't care about just another way for that to happen. Immortality gives me the content trait when I turn it down, just because I'm not up for a crazy, supernatural attempt to live for ever.

There's plenty of chances to turn away the immortality quest without getting any traits because of it. Just don't do it at the first event.

 

[Endless Rain]

I hate it when games remove large amounts of content. I wish Paradox didn't take out all of those events. That said, there are definitely worse offenders when it comes to removing content. (The worst being Starbound, which took out a solid third of the content in the game when it moved to full release.)

 

[Zoomun]

I honestly find the immortality chain more annoying than Chess with Death. My character dies randomly all the time anyway, I don't care about just another way for that to happen. Immortality gives me the content trait when I turn it down, just because I'm not up for a crazy, supernatural attempt to live for ever.

Death with chess is the worst I almost always die and other than the one time it killed my imbecile heir has never done anything useful for me.

 

[vintis88]

• An option to enable the old portrait frames that were removed when Horse Lords was released. The new portrait frames were universally disliked and no one wanted them to be changed in the first place.

This one's news to me. When did "everyone" decide this and why was I not invited

 

[Admiral_Obvious]

(The worst being Starbound, which took out a solid third of the content in the game when it moved to full release.)

I remember that. I also remember the first few alphas, where the type of equipment you used actually made a difference on which planets you could visit. That and planets had varied climates. All of which were removed because "it was too complex".

At least CK and other games try and substitute content.

 

[Slaughter]

I do feel the game lacks ambitions. At some point you just run out of them.