Well. The Jurchens did take China. If the Japanese took over Korea first, then maybe there is a chance it could happen. Just a matter of finding the right time.
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Eh, Rome at its peak probably could. At the time the two empires were peers and it could go either way if they found a way to somehow fight on even footing. The problems with asking this question are two fold. First is that we're talking about invading China, which means that the invader is at a big disadvantage because they have to cross harsh terrain no matter the route they take to invade. Second is that exactly how much power a 'stable' or 'golden age' China has is nebulous. The game doesn't represent that in terms of absolute territory or economic might, only an arbitrary army count. So it's really hard to say exactly how powerful China is suppose to be in any given point in the game.
S/he's probably referring to the golden age/stable status. I do wish China would have a "recovering" phase where trade slowly returns to the silk road, and China can field limited armies, rather than just going "Oh I'm fine now, 50k doomstack for you!"
Well no matter whether it's feasible for Medieval Japan to conquer Medieval China....it doesn't really pay off to implement a Japanese culture which only serves to perhaps, possibly, potentially conquer China in the occasional play through.
Doesn't really pay off.
Doesn't really pay off.
The pay off is a court ninja with insane intrigue and a foolish samurai wielding a magic sword.
Edit:Oh and to get a special event if your a one legged Scotsman with the hermetic handcannon.
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A Korea or Japanese dynasty bringing with it a culture that would functionally be identical to Han, but more likely to be ousted from power in China, isn't all that great of an addition. There really needs to be something that's parallel to that beyond just being another way that the China dynasty can change. For example, if there was an event chain for a great Khmer empire to rise in South East Asia that would then invade India as an off-map invader like the Aztecs or Mongols or conquer China and install a Hindu Khmer dynasty, that would be a good reason to add a new flavor mechanic for China.
Is this a reference to something?
Just saying that if they go through the trouble of making new cultural portraits, rather use them for a culture that was actively involved in historical medieval Europe.
I know this isn't a stream, but I saw this thing in the last AAR episode.
Could it be some kind of pagan councillor?
Could it be some kind of pagan councillor?
Although I admit samurais fought bravely during wars and Japan tried a few times to take over Korea when united, but, always failed when China send reinforcements.
Toyotomi Hideyoshi's dream never come true during the period of time-frame of CK2.
A more realistic way to get Japanese culture/characters in game may be some students/pirates/ronins traveled to China and then decided to go west further to explore the world. (Talking about fantasy elements just like Akechi Samanosuke in Onimusha who traveled to Mongolia)
Maybe paradox will not even bother with that.
Thus, an even more realistic way is.....modding....
Maybe reformed pagans will get different councillors that look less tribal and raggedy.
Possibly, I’ve not seen the AAR in question so I don’t know the context of the image.
by most stable i assume you mean westerners just constantly calling every empire that fell and rose in that area "the same empire" and definitely didn't have a ton of little kingdoms going around occasionally that people outside china didn't recognize as individual states...
Wow, sounds like a Khmer invasion might actually be pretty popular.
It probably wouldn't be terribly hard to mod in either, if someone wants to show Paradox how to properly make invader game options. Here's an example where Khmer can either show up and invade India first, or attempt to take over China and then follow up with India.
Khmer India Invasion
- Off (Khmer never invades India, but their flavor events and potential China invasion are active)
- Always (Khmer will always invade India)
- Low chance (Khmer invasion only has a chance of triggering each game independent of China)
- High chance (Khmer invasion has a small chance of not triggering each game independent of China)
- Follow up (Khmer's invasion will occur as a followup to successfully invading China)
- ~12-13 century
- 200 years after game starts
- 300 years after game starts
- Semi-random, bell-curved around 1300
- Random
- Hindu
- Trade influences (Randomly chooses the religion of one of the religions on trade posts bordering the Indian ocean other than Jain)
- Randomized (Most likely Hindu, but could be Buddhist, Toaist, Nestorian, Miaphysite, Sunni, or Shia)
I'd be down for that. Certainly would make India more interesting.
Another thing I'd like is when Sunset Invasion is active, to the west we would have the Inca essentially being just like how China is implemented.
Thing is, adding an off map power isn’t easy (if you want it to be like China at least). There’re *loads* of events and content that you’d need to copy & tweak for it to work.
This is all I have from today's stream 
Interesting that they play with 29 Hz? That's weird! and UI scale sounds really interesting as well, but it's probably something we may see in future updates (they mentioned they were playing with a much newer version with new portrait backgrounds that won't be part of HF)
Interesting that they play with 29 Hz? That's weird! and UI scale sounds really interesting as well, but it's probably something we may see in future updates (they mentioned they were playing with a much newer version with new portrait backgrounds that won't be part of HF)