Theres a heathen in our court events

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This events kill me

I get it with 15 year old eclessial education that gets a genius

So my question is how I can change it to not fire for muslims that get christs in a few months. Is it possible? If yes, how to do it?

 

[Lurken]

This events kill me

I get it with 15 year old eclessial education that gets a genius

So my question is how I can change it to not fire for muslims that get christs in a few months. Is it possible? If yes, how to do it?

Well...if you are handy with CK events you should be able to throw in another trigger so it doesn't trigger for non-christians with unfinished ecclestial education. But how? No idea.

 

[Gebhard Blucher]

Really, these events shouldn't fire for children. Putting little kids to the sword is especially distasteful, even if it's just a game.

 

[Justinian_A]

Yeah, I agree...I hate force converting or killing children. Perhaps it should only fire for people 16 and older?

 

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Or at least not for kids that get christs in a few years

 

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Yeah, I agree...I hate force converting or killing children. Perhaps it should only fire for people 16 and older?

You might want to bring it up in the
VENT BUG/ISSUES REPORTING thread where stuff like this is reported.

 

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thx

 

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Really, these events shouldn't fire for children. Putting little kids to the sword is especially distasteful, even if it's just a game.

the crusaders ate children. We already have to deal with to much Bowdlerisation regarding marriage and the chaste/lustful traits, please don't makes us put up with another stupid, ahistorical rule in the name of your modern good conscience. Just tell the Pope to stuff it-that's all he deserves anyway.

 

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I kind of agree with you, but due to circumstances I'm rather unable to do anything about it at this very exact moment.

However, if you wish to fix it yourself, this here:

condition = { type = age value = 16 }

added to the trigger will make it fire for only 16+ olds and this

condition = { type = not value = { type = trait value = ecclestical_education } }

will make it not fire for ecclestically educated ones. Just find the events in the relevant file and then add the conditions inside the trigger.

IMPORTANT: If you use the latter trigger, check the exact spelling for the trait from traits.txt, because I can't check the spelling right now.

 

[Owen]

Why not just make giving a child an ecclesiatical education immediately make him or her Christian?

 

[Justinian_A]

That would seem to make sense.

 

[Grosshaus]

Why not just make giving a child an ecclesiatical education immediately make him or her Christian?

Sounds good on first glance

 

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Sounds good on first glance

Well he could get moved again to a non-catholic court.

 

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That wouldn't matter, would it? As long as you don't remove the current trigger giving him the education of the appropriate religion once the education terminates?

If he stays in the Catholic court, he turns Catholic when he's given the education trait and when it is completed, his religion is set to catholic again. No biggie, happens to most of my court already. If he *does* move to another court, he'll be the wrong religion for most of his childhood (and the chance of him being killed is then logical) but, by the time his education finishes, he'll have seen the light and will convert his religion to the appropriate one for his new home.

Not 100% ideal, but makes sense. Alternatively, not allowing heathens to be killed until 16+ is fine. I say that not because I have a versed objection to seeing kids being killed in CK, but it does seem amazingly extreme that the church or inquisition would turn on someone so young, and before they came of age - although it will still be irritating when they're about to be allowed into the priesthood (e.g. 17, education not finished) and yet are still killed as a heathen.

I'd go with setting religion when the education trait is given, if that's possible.

 

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I don't think that the church was usually bothered in real life if heathens were employed by secular rulers, actually. Hence I think the heathen court events should be got rid of.

 

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That wouldn't matter, would it? As long as you don't remove the current trigger giving him the education of the appropriate religion once the education terminates?

If he stays in the Catholic court, he turns Catholic when he's given the education trait and when it is completed, his religion is set to catholic again. No biggie, happens to most of my court already. If he *does* move to another court, he'll be the wrong religion for most of his childhood (and the chance of him being killed is then logical) but, by the time his education finishes, he'll have seen the light and will convert his religion to the appropriate one for his new home.

Not 100% ideal, but makes sense. Alternatively, not allowing heathens to be killed until 16+ is fine. I say that not because I have a versed objection to seeing kids being killed in CK, but it does seem amazingly extreme that the church or inquisition would turn on someone so young, and before they came of age - although it will still be irritating when they're about to be allowed into the priesthood (e.g. 17, education not finished) and yet are still killed as a heathen.

I'd go with setting religion when the education trait is given, if that's possible.

Then what's the point of giving it at age 5? If he moves, it'll chage anyway, if he doesn't it won't. Its just an extra wasteful line of coding.

I don't think that the church was usually bothered in real life if heathens were employed by secular rulers, actually. Hence I think the heathen court events should be got rid of.

I think they are crusade ones only.

 

[Yakman]

Inquisition just shouldn't fire for children. Children with ecclesial education should still only convert when the education is finished--this makes more sense.

 

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Well, its where you write the code to be honest as to whether its wasted or not.

If the AI sets religion at age 5 and their religion changes, then they move to your court shortly afterwards then the original problem comes again - that despite the fact that they're now in ecclesiastical education, the inquisition will demand that you kill them at 7 for being a heathen.

If you stop the inquisition killing before 16, that's fine, but the education traits still don't kick in until 17-18 normally, so you could still have someone killed as a heathen only a year before their 'formal' conversion (which is arbitrary). You'd have to peg the inquisition threshold at over 18, IMO.

Thinking about it, that would be the obvious single code change that would do it: stopping the inquisition acting until after the educational traits have been finished.

 

[Mammut]

I kind of agree with you, but due to circumstances I'm rather unable to do anything about it at this very exact moment.

However, if you wish to fix it yourself, this here:

condition = { type = age value = 16 }

added to the trigger will make it fire for only 16+ olds and this

condition = { type = not value = { type = trait value = ecclestical_education } }

will make it not fire for ecclestically educated ones. Just find the events in the relevant file and then add the conditions inside the trigger.

IMPORTANT: If you use the latter trigger, check the exact spelling for the trait from traits.txt, because I can't check the spelling right now.

Were do I put these codes? I have looked through some files but I cant really find which file to place these coes. I going to change the age to 19 so it wont fire until the education has finished. like this:

condition = { type = age value = 19 }

 

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Were do I put these codes? I have looked through some files but I cant really find which file to place these coes. I going to change the age to 19 so it wont fire until the education has finished. like this:

condition = { type = age value = 19 }

Well age 19 won't help much. I've had several continue until mid twentities.

If you want it not to have them when they are being educated, just put it so it won't fire while they're being educated instead of trying to beat around the bush and maybe still end up causing problems.