hyme said:
We discussed that already IIRC, and we decided not to because a culture change while virtually meaningless in CK, is very powerful on EU and in the other games we are playing in.
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We discussed that already IIRC, and we decided not to because a culture change while virtually meaningless in CK, is very powerful on EU and in the other games we are playing in.
King of Men said:
I think you're more optimistic than me about Bavaria's chances! We'll see what happens...I think it depends more on whether it'll be a 2 year or a 20 year session that I miss than anything else. In any case it'll be a miracle if I don't lose all my vassals.
As to León's offer - if León ensures the continued survival of Bavaria then I'm sure the Dukes will be more than grateful - but I woudn't expect Bavaria to hand over territory to a foreign power that did nothing.
No culture changes, it's too powerful in conversion.
Since both Lurken and BryanH signed up as full players, they will be taking their own countries. If anyone else shows and plays, they will have to sub.
Since both Lurken and BryanH signed up as full players, they will be taking their own countries. If anyone else shows and plays, they will have to sub.
King of Men, you rat bastard, I shall not allow you to mess with the space-time continuum!
I see there is no stopping Geir from going back, but I shall send agents to lessen the damage.
KoM, maybe we should collaborate our AAR's in this matter?
KoM, maybe we should collaborate our AAR's in this matter?
King of Men said:Ah, I see someone finally got around to reading the AAR thread.
I have been reading it, too, but trust me, you will not be the only one messing in the space continuum!
Spain shall have its "venganza"!
Deus Vult! :rofl:
Also Finn, your post is vague. I cant help you unless we are allied or you are my vassal. I cant declare war on the HRE to protect you since i got no claims in their lands. You got any ideas?
Oh for pitty's sake, will people stop time travelling like it's going out of fashion? You'll bring the time cops down on us!
fasquardon
fasquardon
Heh. So I was looking at the save to see what vassals should be edited out, and I'm not quite sure about Ireland and Wales. It seems to me that for Irish Dukes to seek the protection of the French King is maybe not totally stupid. They don't strictly speaking border each other, but there's a short body of water between them and France did historically mess about in Ireland whenever they fought the English. Shall we permit the French AI to keep these vassals? Let me know your thoughts. For myself, I'm inclined to let the Irish be French if they want to. Also Poland can keep its vassals in Germany, although not the ones in Burgundy.
As for time travel, how about this? China and Spain, with their greater resources, are actually further advanced than Norway in building Quantum Devices. However, since they are winning the Long War, they have no motivation to build one. So what they do is this: They make Devices of their own with dead-man switches. As soon as they detect the disturbances in the space-time continuum that the Norwegian Device creates, their own Devices activate. From there, your agents can do whatever they like!
Let's say, however, that energy considerations forbid sending back much more than one or two people at a time. Also, if you two could come up with your own reasons not to introduce gunpowder and steam engines in 1066, that would be good. You'll observe that the Ynglings have their reasons for not doing so, but I'm not sure what China's or Spain's reasons would be.
As for time travel, how about this? China and Spain, with their greater resources, are actually further advanced than Norway in building Quantum Devices. However, since they are winning the Long War, they have no motivation to build one. So what they do is this: They make Devices of their own with dead-man switches. As soon as they detect the disturbances in the space-time continuum that the Norwegian Device creates, their own Devices activate. From there, your agents can do whatever they like!
Let's say, however, that energy considerations forbid sending back much more than one or two people at a time. Also, if you two could come up with your own reasons not to introduce gunpowder and steam engines in 1066, that would be good. You'll observe that the Ynglings have their reasons for not doing so, but I'm not sure what China's or Spain's reasons would be.
our aims would be to fix or contain the change in the timeline, Spain's agent is actually a renegade who needs to be stopped as well.
BurningEGO said:
Well, in that situation there is no problem as it means that Bavaria exists as an entity within the HRE - which is my desired end result. It's the possibility that Bavaria becomes fully independent and then is extinguished by its neighbours that I'm more worried about.
Anyone who (convincingly) helps Bavaria survive will get my support on my return, but expect some sort of response if no assistance is given and the opportunity is taken to ransack my vassals!
Have fun
Finn
Sid Meier said:
Well, Spain wants only to punish certain backstabbing norwegian pigs and certain chinese that couped our noble and great government by placing a pro-chinese ruler that sent countless of galleons filled with gold coins to China itself.
King of Men said:
Keep the French vassals. considering that after I unify I will be able to steamroll any independent duchy in the isles. It is smart for them to seek the protection of the French King who is in a position to help them (But will fail horribly).
Well I've had another look at Bavaria's situation - and I forgot one thing, AI realms don't lose loyalty for BB which means all my vassals like me again
Could still be embarrassing though - and my original request as outlined in my will still stands if needs be...
For my AAR I'll take the 150 gold, the AI I guess will ignore this as I'll still be negative (and the AI ignores negative cash I think) so the reward will disappear which seems fair as I'll get some benefits from being AIed.
As a favour could the links to the saves as the game progresses not be deleted - I'd like to download them all to try to follow what happens in the session I'm missing?
Finally I have another suggestion for an AAR reward - player treaties. Let's say I wanted to transfer my Dutch province to Lower Lorraine - right now there's no way to do it. Maybe it could be if both players took a treaty as their AAR reward we could allow game edits to be done to do things like this - transferring vassals or counties, sending hostages to each other's courts etc. I don't want to do anything like that right now, but I thought it might be a nice option to have for the future. Nothing too fancy - and with limits on what you can do (eg nothing that's possible in-game such as transferring cash, no changing lieges from AI to human, etc). What do people think?
Have fun
Finn
Could still be embarrassing though - and my original request as outlined in my will still stands if needs be...
For my AAR I'll take the 150 gold, the AI I guess will ignore this as I'll still be negative (and the AI ignores negative cash I think) so the reward will disappear which seems fair as I'll get some benefits from being AIed.
As a favour could the links to the saves as the game progresses not be deleted - I'd like to download them all to try to follow what happens in the session I'm missing?
Finally I have another suggestion for an AAR reward - player treaties. Let's say I wanted to transfer my Dutch province to Lower Lorraine - right now there's no way to do it. Maybe it could be if both players took a treaty as their AAR reward we could allow game edits to be done to do things like this - transferring vassals or counties, sending hostages to each other's courts etc. I don't want to do anything like that right now, but I thought it might be a nice option to have for the future. Nothing too fancy - and with limits on what you can do (eg nothing that's possible in-game such as transferring cash, no changing lieges from AI to human, etc). What do people think?
Have fun
Finn