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You know, I almost feel sorry for poor Ingvar, he looks like a die-hard, true fascist Yngling. Having to come downtime just to realize that all his predecessors hard work has been spoiled would probably be quite a shock.
Anyway, a more populist Norway might be good in the long run, but what if the knowledge and weaponry of the uptimers are lost to the Norway kings?
(as always, a splendid update ;))
 

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Yes, I feel kind of sorry for him too, but what can you do? At the height of the plague, the total manpower (that is, number of troops in the savegame) of Europe had dropped from almost three million to roughly 1.3 million. So call it a 50% death rate. This is a bit of a major screwup, no? There is certainly more than enough blame to splash some people who weren't there at the time.

Norway may be taking a new direction, I have some thoughts that I'll try to outline in the next update.
 

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The Bagratuniad:

The Vernacular Revolution:

Overview:


Because events in my AAR are so far behind current events, I've decided to do an out of character overview of what's happening right now for your education.

For those of you who don't know, last week was made very interesting by the discovery that about half of the Seljuk Empire was owned by a Mongol of the Bagratuni family, who was set to inherit the throne after my current (Georgian) King died. Needless to say, the idea of the second most powerful country on the continent getting the Mongol demesne bonus (not to mention the other goodies they get) has caused a little alarm.

Well, Mongols and game mechanisms are all very well, but what's actually happening in character? Are the Georgian Mongols really Mongols? And if not, what are they?

The answer is that the Mongol Bagratuni are both Mongols, and not Mongols. Or more accurately, they're what the Mongols have become after 150 years of living inside Georgia. Y'see, unlike the Mongol invasions of our history, where the native states were crushed, and an entire Mongol society was imported to take up the top rungs of the ladder, in this world the Mongols have been trickling in across the Eastern border, either as PoWs who decide to stay on, or as renegades looking for a new life. In other words, people who come to assimilate, not dominate.

So the ordinary Mongols joined the non-Persified Turks and the Cumans in becoming nomads among the settled peoples of Georgia - think of them as really scary gypsies with yurts - while their leaders followed the route of the Seljuks before them in assimilating into the high culture of the land. Or I should say almost assimilating. The Mongols were a fairly egalitarian lot for the times, and so the high society Mongols maintain links (and common culture) with their more plebeian brethren (doing otherwise would be shockingly immodest). Consiquently, they have a rather different perspective on things than the usual Georgian courtier, most of whom live far away from the toiling masses, in a world of high wealth and imperial intrigue. That's going to be important later on.

Now let's fast-forward to the plague. One of the great pillars of the Propheteocracy is brought crashing down, as many monasteries of The Order of St. Agsartan are hit particularly hard by the plague - the price of being the primary source of medical care as well as foci of travel. With the monasteries go the elite core of the Seljuk army - the Militant Brothers and the network of heliograph towers that the monks man - a blow made even heavier by the Draconian travel restrictions imposed to try and limit the spread of disease. Those same travel restrictions also hit the peasantry hard. Freedom of travel and guarantee of property, as enshrined in the Regulations of the Roman Commonwealth, have become one of the most prized (and just about the only) rights available to a peasantry that is otherwise subject to the whims of the merchant-aristocracy that has developed on the rung under the Prophetei. Without the peasants being able to leave the lands of oppressive Deputies, there is no longer any check on the excesses of the upper class. With disease lowering productivity, and the chronic Seljuk civil war rumbling on, there is ample excuse to indulge in squeezing the underclass dry. (The travel restrictions are also going to be unpleasant for the nomadic types, one reason why they're going to ally with the peasantry in later events.) The final, and to some, most damaging blow, is the utter lack of any showy intervention by the Angel, distracted with anti-Yngling intrigues and puzzling out the secrets of the Dovreman drops, the Angel is unable to keep up the pace of miracles it has set since the end of the Assassin Wars. Despite the calm explanations of the monks, few in the Seljuk domains are calm enough to listen.

Once again, Georgian society is fighting a battle of survival. It is only the power and reputation of King David, and the fact that the plague is weakening everyone equally, that keeps it all from blowing up then and there. It is during this period that the Mongols begin to gain influence, for, without the skilled manpower to keep the heliographs going, the Propheteocracy is forced to revert to a more primitive courier system to maintain communications - and the largest reservoir of horse riding talent is recruited into the service of the state, organised by David's Mongol-raised brother, Mungke.

It is once the apogee of the plague is passed that the trouble really begins. As travel controls fall, angry peasants, disaffected priests and disenchanted Prophetei flood across the country, looking for someone, some sign, to tell them what to do to save Georgia from the mess she's in. As people move, stories spread. Stories of oppression, stories of divine abandonment, stories of a war against "those who sleep in the dust of the earth" (garbled reports of the struggle against the Dovremen) and stories of one quarantine after another being broken by the actions of greedy men. Most of the stories are probably false, some are true, all spread anger or a desire for action. It is a supremely poor time to have a weak Propheteocrat, and unfortunately, in Kakhi Bagratuni, who spends most of his time alternating between illness and madness, that's exactly what the country is stuck with.

Without a strong Propheteocrat to keep them in line, the dissatisfied begin to organise, their ideas begin to crystallize into ideology, and the only thing that's missing is a strong leader.

Enter Inancha, son of Mungke, and what later history would call "a republican". Don't think that means modern republicanism - this guy has more in common with Oliver Cromwell than he does with Jefferson. It's Inancha who gives direction to the dissatisfaction, and makes it a movement. A movement that controls the most important communications of the country and has a burning desire to do away with the too-slow, too-gradual approach to change advocated by the Propheteocracy.

Things are getting radical in the Kingdom of Georgia.

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Oh my! :eek:
It'll be interesting to see how things develop in the Georgian Empire from now on :)
As a sidenote, I stumbled upon the idea that in EU3, while the Breton Empire is the biggest, her colonies will be overseas, the only thing that the Seljuks would need to do is absorb Egypt and then they will have all of Africa as a colonial tax base due to the game mechanics ;)
 

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1380 Statistics.

Power, graphically:


Power, textually:
Code:
Realm           Tag    1372    1380
Brittany        BRIT    581     511
Georgia         GEOR    493     500
Russia          RUSS    290     292
Italy           ITAL    369     257
Germany         GERM    261     245
Byzantium       BYZA    234     220
Prussia         PRUS    208     218
Norway          NORW    195     206
Arabia Petrae   AKAB    154     179
Egypt           EGYP     70      72
Lothian         LOTH     21      21
Note that, despite all of fasq's protestations, Brittany and Georgia are like 2% apart at the moment.

Culture:


Plague:

There's apparently a bug in the plague map (shouldn't be possible to be black at this point), but oh well.

MPOR and MPOPR is once again Kakhi Bagratuni of Georgia (2044).
MPCR is the Pope, Indrechtach O'Cahill (1576).
MPCPR is, amazingly, Bjørn Yngling of Norway (1118).
 

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Yes, well. His life coincides pretty exactly with the course of the Plague through Norway. He's seen enough death to make anyone pious.
 

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The Plague, just as in our timeline, is a watershed moment for the society the Yngling time-travellers are trying to shape to their ends. The way it was released has - perhaps a little unjustly - completely destroyed the former prestige of the men from Dovre, while revealing at least one of the dangers of their utterly individualistic ideology. In fact, the threat of a single Yngling releasing a bioweapon or other WMD was never very large in the uptime, no greater perhaps than in our timeline; the Ynglings do understand about madness and accident, and the one thing they are good at cooperating on is war. Besides this, in the uptime there were always any number of strils around, some of whom had a technical education - unavoidable in running even a spatch-cocked industrial society. So they took steps to ensure that several people would have to go mad before anything of the sort happened. In addition to complete individualism, then, the disaster required Ask to view the downtimers as not really quite real, which caused him to get a bit sloppy about precautions; and then additionally to be slightly brain-damaged by his interview with the Angel, manifesting as bipolar disorder in his later years. A series of unlikely factors, then, culminating in a discrediting of the uptime ideology for the wrong reason.

The uptime Ynglings are running a state that is, by any measure, a complete disaster. Start with the caste system: Roughly two-thirds of the population are strils. They are not all completely without rights; in some of the older parts of the empire, in Finland and Germany, there are surviving remnants of old feudal laws and privileges, and hence a small middle class, who work as they please rather than by assignment from above, and are responsible for a vastly disproportionate percentage of the GNP. But by and large, the strils are shut out of creative work, and hence two-thirds of the population bumps along in industrial or agricultural employment, with no chance to use its brains.

Then, the remaining third is obsessed with personal fitness and hand-to-hand combat! Now, let's be clear: Being able to take on five or ten ordinary mortals with a sword is a very fine thing, but it doesn't contribute much to GNP. The educational and eugenic system that produces these excellent athletes and soldiers was a bit silly when wars were settled with rifles; with spacecraft and nukes, well, give us a break. But here is the real problem with the ideology of complete personal freedom: You can't drop your guard! Anybody who didn't go through the schools would be unable to defend themselves in a duel, get no respect, and probably end up dead fairly shortly. So, as the saying goes, it's a trap! Once you get into an equilibrium of duels being the accepted means to settle disputes, and everyone training for them, there's no way out. This is why Norway in the uptime can't keep up with the Chinese, in spite of controlling most of Europe and two-thirds of North America either by direct control or through vassal states. (The Chinese, communists with no strong capitalist state to spur them into innovation, aren't the economic powerhouse they are becoming in OTL either. But they can hardly fail to do better than Norway.)

So. The Yngling ideology is a disaster, and now the downtimers know it. But they know it from the wrong end - they abhor an aspect that isn't so bad as all that, and are ignorant of the one that is. This may become important later. For now, though, the main effect is that Norway is left without any direction. The ruling class has lost all confidence in uptime guidance except on purely military matters. What's worse, it has gotten used to having a fairly advanced, even if disastrous, theory to guide its steps. It is as though communism had been imported into an early-medieval state, adopted widely, and then shown to be a fraud: It is known to be wrong, but at the same time it is clearly much more advanced than any of its available competitors, since Smithian economics doesn't exist yet. Which leaves mercantilism and Christian anti-usury laws as the main alternatives!

In a similar way, radical libertarianism is a disaster, but it is a well-developed disaster with a plausible-sounding theory behind it. Feudalism can't really compete. It was never developed as a theoretical ideology, it just growed as an ad-hoc series of laws, precedents, and customs. As for modern representative democracy, constitutional monarchy, republics totalitarian and otherwise - none of these exist as theories of government. There is just the uptime theory, and "the way things are done," with no theory on why or even much on what - you just know how to, say, suggest a new law, or bring a lawsuit.

Now, governments do of course stumble along somehow even without a formal theory of what they are doing. But to have such a theory, and then have it taken away with nothing to put in its place - that's disorienting. At the top levels, then, Norway not only doesn't know what it's doing, it knows that it doesn't know. As with a man balancing on a high wire, having to think about what you're doing is not a good thing.

Meanwhile, at the lower levels of society, things are likewise going crazy - not from a sudden lack of ideology, but because no community deals well with death rates of 40%. Just as in our timeline, all sorts of nutty cults spring up, preaching that the Plague is anything from God's punishment on the wicked, to Satan's testing of the faith. Flagellants, ascetics, proto-Protestants who pray in the vernacular, you name it, we've got it. A difference with OTL is that uptime encouragement of the old faith leads to that being a much stronger current in the craziness, with the occasional mad shaman claiming that the Plague is caused by the lack of sacrifices to the Old Gods. Which leads, here and there, to people believing them, and hanging a dog, or a horse, or a man, depending on the degree of craziness. And in the nature of things, sometimes the Plague really does stop, locally, at roughly the same time. Just as happens also with various Christian expedients. (Indeed, the combination of exponential growth and human craziness is such that the nuttiest remedies are likely to be adopted just at the height of the Plague, which is right before it stops for lack of non-immune victims!) The resulting claims and counter-claims of what worked are not conducive to quiet religious contemplation. Nor is religion the only remedy; as in all hard times, the less pious will decide to eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow they may die.

Overall, then, we have a society whose top level is off-balance, uncertain of what to do next, sure only of what it does not want - and partly wrong even about that. Meanwhile the rank and file are in turmoil. And while all this is going on, the geostrategic problem remains the same! Plague or no plague, ideology or none, Germany and Brittany are still out there, maneuvering for control of the Isles and the Kattegat.

It's going to be an interesting century.
 

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Q: How do you tell an Yngling merchant from an Yngling pirate?
A: If you're armed, he's a merchant.

Q: How many Ynglings does it take to change a whale-oil lamp?
A: Thirty. One to say "That lamp needs changing", and 29 to charge out in their longboat and loot some hapless country until they find a new lamp.

Q: How can you tell whether an Yngling is considering calling out the leidang and invading your country?
A: He's breathing.

Q: What's the difference between an Yngling and a starving lion?
A: One is a rapacious, amoral predator, and the other is a lion.

Q: Why do jackals follow lions?
A: An Yngling wouldn't leave anything for them to eat.

Q: Why do lions leave anything for the jackals?
A: They don't want to be seen as rapacious, amoral predators.

Q: Why does the Norwegian banner have a starving lion on it?
A: Upwardly mobile public relations. It used to be an Yngling.

Q: In the revolutionary statement "First, we kill all the Ynglings", what is the mistake?
A: Giving fair warning.

Q: A longboat with 29 Ynglings in it, out looking for a new lamp, sinks with all hands drowned. Why is this sad?
A: A longboat has room for 30.

A priest, an architect, and an Yngling are on a road trip in Scotland, and they see a flock of black sheep. So the priest says, "Look, Scottish sheep are black!" The architect rolls his eyes and says, "In Scotland, at least some of the sheep are black." And the Yngling says, "Anyone for roast lamb?"

Q: Why do Ynglings not sell their sisters into slavery?
A: The profit margin is higher on renting them out.

Q: Why do Yngling mothers love their sons?
A: You would say the same, if the alternative was being rented out.

Q: Why does an Yngling only carry eight daggers?
A: He can't count any higher.

Q: Hang on - eight?
A: You mean you can count on thumbs as well? An amazing innovation!

Q: Where does an Yngling keep his last-ditch holdout dagger?
A: Do you really want to know?

Q: What do you call an Yngling woman who can run faster than her brothers?
A: A slut, same as the ones who can't. (What, you were maybe expecting a different answer?)

A local warlord has decided that what he really needs to make it into the big leagues is faster horses. So he calls in a farmer, a priest, and an Yngling to help him. They all say that they'll think about it for a week and come back with solutions. So after a week he goes out to the farmer and asks him what ideas he has. "Well, boss", says the farmer, "the secret is in the feed. Give them oats instead of grass, and they'll be twice as fast." So the warlord nods and says "Ok, that's pretty good. Let's see what the other two have come up with." So he goes to the priest, and says, "Now, Father, what have you got for me?" And the priest says "Well boss, with God all things are possible. I feel quite certain that if you built a larger chapel and hired someone to pray in it, your horses would all run three times as fast." So the warlord says "Sounds reasonable. But now I want to hear what my last advisor has got for me." And he goes to talk to the Yngling, who is alight with enthusiasm for his plan. "It's trivially simple! All you have to do is kill all the other horses!"
 

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The Bagratuniad:

Kings:

A complete list of Georgian Kings, to help give people something of an overview into Georgian affairs since the beginning. This is an extended version of the first King list, so if you just want to read the very newest material, jump down to Hovhannes I.



Bagrat IV (Bagratuni)

1027-1077

Non-Prophetei

Deeds: Ended a pernicious state of civil war (most of his life pre-game start was actually spent in exile), launched a successful series of Crusades, establishing Abghazia as a regional power. Almost saw his realm destroyed by the Cumans.

Character: A decent man, one of the finest, and most energetic, war-kings in Georgian history so far.

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Kvirike IV (Bagratuni)

1077-1122

Deeds: Established Propheteocracy, crushed Cumans, established Abghazia as a diplomatic power, discovered the Yngling and Chinese time agents.

Character: The biggest prick to sit on the throne of Georgia so far, he stole the credit for his uncle Bagrat's deeds, executed his first wife, murdered his second, kept numerous mistresses, all of whom were terrified of him, even Anja, the psychotic she-bitch from the future.

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Evstati I (Bagratuni)

1122-1153

Deeds: Liberated Jerusalem, destroyed the Seljuk Turks, established alliances with the Yngling and Chinese time agents (or perhaps more correctly, alliances with the institutions these time warriors created). Became a Russian vassal, rebelled, became first universally recognised King of Georgia, established Georgia as a great power. Crushed the rebellion of his nephew, Adarnase.

Character: A good man, and a wise king.

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Adarnase III (Bagratuni)

1153-1194

Deeds: Rebelled against his uncle, was crushed, succeeded him anyway. Became filthy rich, established the Roman Commonwealth. As the leader of the League of the Tapestry, broke the Western aggression against Russia. Got assassinated.

Character: A modest man, and a just ruler, the first Propheteocrat to be beatified.

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Demna I (Bagratuni)

1194-1198

Deeds: Saw out his uncle Adarnase's schemes, got assassinated.

Character: He could have been a second Evstati - Demna showed much promise before his reign was cut tragically short.

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Vasilii I (Rurikovich)

1198-1200

Non-Prophetei

Deeds: Fomented revolution against the Propheteocracy, assassinated Adarnase III and Demna I, caused a massive revolt when he tried to impose the Vasilian heresy on Georgia. Executed in Moscow.

Character: A shy and kindly sort, Vasilii's strong ideals and heretical beliefs turned him into the most dangerous enemy the Propheteocracy would face in a dozen generations. Close examination of the man reveals a portrait of someone with the potential to be a hero-king, who just took a wrong turn somewhere...

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Giorgi II (Bagratuni)

1200-1200

Deeds: Had a long and distinguished political career before he became Propheteocrat (a leader of the Blood party, and first Georgian representative to serve at Mesembria). Brought Vasilii to justice. Got assassinated.

Character: Hawkish and honest.

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Afsin I (Seljuk)

1200-1202

Deeds: First non-Bagratuni Propheteocrat. Kept Georgia stable even in the midst of economic collapse. Gave away much of the royal estates to buy the loyalty of the Pilegeshim. Exiled most of the royal court of Adarnase III for cowardice and replaced them with members of his family. Re-established the Seljuk Empire, or simply re-named the Georgian one, depending on ones' perspective. Died of old age.

Character: Long-time friend of Adarnase III, and an ambitious Seljuk partisan, Afsin both fought to preserve the legacy of his dead friend, and re-mould that legacy into the Seljuk image, leading to a somewhat contradictory impression. .

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Alexios I (Diogenes)

1202-1219

Deeds: Wasted eighty thousand gold talents on the botched war with Arabia. Got himself adopted into the Bagratuni family in an attempt to achieve a stable succession of power. Failed miserably, when his chosen successor died in battle, leaving the worm-eaten Giorgi III to succeed him. Survived an assassination attempt, only to die of his wounds a week later.

Character: Initially crippled by excessive ambition, Alexios was able to recognise his mistakes after the Arabian war, and repair much of the damage he and his immediate predecessors had inflicted on the country.

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Giorgi III (Bagratuni)

1219-1259

Deeds: Killed an assassin with his bare hands, ran the economy into ruin, fixed it again, repealed the ban of Afsin, leading to the Return of the Exiles (officially the end of the Assassin Wars). Brought the Pilegeshim back under control, reformed Seljuk law along Breton lines. Crushed the rebellious Deputies in the first and second Worm Wars, crushed the Mongols, winning one of the greatest battles of all Georgian history against them at the Bitter Lakes (in the province of Maverannahr). Died of old age.

Character: Sickly and quite mad for much of his childhood, Giorgi would become known as the "Worm King" for his habit of holding conversations with his intestinal worm. Recovered to become an able king. A Russophobe, only the able diplomacy of the Novgorodian Tsars and his greater hostility toward the HRE kept relations as warm as the were. Initially strongly pro-Western in bias, the Cypriot crisis would permanently sour him against the Holy Roman Empire, though he would maintain strong links with Brittany and Norway until his death. A military genius, the finest war-king in Georgian history to date. Was a loving and loyal husband. Famous for his macabre sense of humour. The second Propheteocrat to be beatified, the cult of Saint Giorgi would eventually eclipse even that of St. Agsartan.

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Hovhannes I (Bagratuni)

1259-1294

Deeds: Killed two assassins with his bare hands, ran the economy into ruin, fixed it again, won the Second Worm War (a civil war he had inherited from his father, Giorgi III). Died of old age.

Character: The biggest womaniser since Kvirike. Very fond of hunting. Mellowed greatly in his old age, becoming a loyal and loving husband to his third wife, Laura von Zähringen.

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Teimuraz I (Bagratuni)

1294-1295

Deeds: Won a hotly contested election for the Propheteocracy, but not without alienating the powerful Prince Gurgen of Armenia, resulting in the "Fool's War", one of the worst civil wars in Georgian history, and one of the most violent Bagratuni-versus-Bagratuni wars in history. Teimuraz died while relieving the siege of Baghdad. The enmity of the Princes of Armenia and their Ka'usiya allies in Khorasan would not die with him however, and both dynasties would become major players in almost every one of the many civil wars between the Fool's War and the Vernacular Revolution.

Character: A romantic zealot with too much pride, too little restraint, but not enough courage to inspire others from the front, Teimuraz's early death was a stroke of luck for Georgia.

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Erets I (Bagratuni)

1295-1332

Deeds: Coming to the throne as a mere boy Erets was thrown into the maelstrom of the Fool's War when it was in full swing, but quickly proved equal to the task, crushing all the enemies of the Court at Baghdad, but he was unable to crush them completely. Unpopular with most courtiers, Erets was forced to found the first waged bureaucracy in Georgia to maintain the smooth function of the country. Despite all the challenges, Erets managed to husband Georgia to heights of prosperity unseen in even Adarnase's day. Died of old age.

Character: A mediocre general, Erets preferred to lead from the comfort of his study, but unlike his father, he had no pretensions of being any more than he was. Erets is often called "the Pilegeshim's Propheteocrat", such was his mastery of "soft power", from choosing the right words, to choosing the right assassins (both the diplomatic service and the spy network were traditionally the purview of the Pilegeshim).

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David IV (Bagratuni)

1332-1347

Deeds: Despite the increasing unwieldiness of the Propheteocracy, rising court corruption and continuing vassal unrest, David managed to push Georgia to new heights of prosperity. Under David, the last remnants of the Assassin order would be destroyed in Georgia, but some, having already escaped to Norway, returned bringing the black death with them. The last years of David's reign would be spent in dealing with the plague and the problem of how to contain the Dovremen. Died of old age.

Character: Probably the most brilliant of the Propheteocrats, David was nonetheless a modest man. As the bastard son of Erets I, David's childhood was a constant struggle to prove his worthiness, a habit that continued during his adulthood. David would become the third and final Propheteocrat to be beatified.

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Kakhi I (Bagratuni)

1347-1383

Deeds: The last Propheteocrat, Kakhi's achievements are ambiguous and open to interpretation. Most agree that he (1) made a deal with the devil that ultimately destroyed him (though whether that devil was the Vernacularists or the Deputate is not agreed), and that he (2) was very good at surviving. Kakhi would survive many near-fatal battle wounds, minor illnesses, a bout of the plague, a long struggle with madness, near continuous civil war and an anti-climatic Breton invasion. However, in the course of ensuring his political survival, he made himself overdependent on the Vernacularist faction, leaving the Propheteocracy wide open when the Vernacular revolution in 1380 literally ripped most of the country from the Propheteocrat's grasp. He nonetheless managed to fight the revolutionaries to a standstill, repeatedly driving the superior Vernacularist forces back from his Kurdish and Turkish strongholds, by 1383 he had forced Utudai to a truce. He did not live to enjoy it however, as dissatisfaction among the remaining deputies of Georgia exploded into the Little Assassin War, during which Kakhi, and most of his immediate family, were slain.

Character: One of the most hated figures in European history, Kakhi was a man of mediocre talents and iron determination. He replaced the elegant diplomacy of his father and grandfather with blatant cronyism, and ruthlessly destroyed even those who were only mildly inconvenient to the Propheteocracy, unless they were too strong, and thus crony material. The character of the man himself is shrouded in mystery, and most sources regarding him are enemy propaganda, and thus quite biased. However, there is good evidence for the fact that Kakhi did, indeed, sire at least 16 bastard children, more than even the famously womanising Kvirike IV.

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Utudai I (Bagratuni)

Prince Of Arabia Desertia (successor to Inancha) 1363-1383

High Speaker of United Georgia 1383-

Deeds: Utudai led the Vernacular revolution against Kakhi, however, as a result of the Little Assassin War of 1383, when Kakhi died, he was the closest blood relative still alive who could present a convincing claim to the Council of Deputies. Thus, rather ironically given the ferocity of the revolutionary war, the Vernacularists ultimately gained control of Georgia by peaceful means. Utudai's reign would be spent implementing the Vernacularist agenda. Significantly, Utudai discontinued the usage of the titles "Propheteocrat", "Propheteocracy" and "Prophetes", marking the end of the high middle ages in Georgia, and the beginning of the renaissance.

Character: Utudai was a capable man, characterised by his burning obsession with establishing the just society imagined by the Vernacularist visionaries.

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1388 Statistics

Power, graphically:


Power, textually:
Code:
Realm           Tag     1380    1388
Brittany        BRIT    511     561
Georgia         GEOR    500     500
Italy           ITAL    257     336
Novgorod        NOVG    292     297
Germany         GERM    245     253
Prussia         PRUS    218     220
Byzantium       BYZA    220     206
Norway          NORW    206     180
Egypt           EGYP     72      71
Lothian         LOTH     21      19

Culture:


Plague:


MPOR and MPOPR is Utudai Bagratuni of Georgia (1430).
MPCR is Aimo of Savolaks (1830).
MPCPR is Guillaume de Cornouaille of Brittany (1783).
 

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1399 Statistics

Power, graphically:


Power, textually:
Code:
Realm           Tag     1388    1399
Brittany        BRIT    561     550
Georgia         GEOR    500     506
Italy           ITAL    336     364
Novgorod        NOVG    297     302
Germany         GERM    253     246
Byzantium       BYZA    206     226
Norway          NORW    180     222
Prussia         PRUS    220     213
Egypt           EGYP     71      69
Lothian         LOTH     19      21

Culture:


Plague:


MPOR is Michael Diogenes of Paphlagonia (585)
MPOPR is Konstantin Rurikovich of Novgorod (249)

MPCR is Spytihnev Malipiero of Ancona (1773)
MPCPR is Håkon Yngling of Norway (428)
 

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Hum, 11 years to go. Any chance on another world war before taht time? :p

Edit: Oh, another post. Seems like the end of the line for the CK area.
 

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Yes, we just sat out the remaining 11 years, although AI Germany took a brief swipe at me in the last few months. Honestly, we were all a little tired of CK at this point, and just wanted to get to conversion as fast as possible.
 

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King of Men said:
Yes, we just sat out the remaining 11 years, although AI Germany took a brief swipe at me in the last few months. Honestly, we were all a little tired of CK at this point, and just wanted to get to conversion as fast as possible.

At least half of us were playing rebel-whack-a-mole as well, what with dying kings and realm duress and all.
 

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Final Glory!

Here's the top 8 most glorious dynasties as of October 14 1399:



Compare this to the situation in 1362.

As you can see, the last 30 years were very good for the de Cornouailles and the Ynglings (indeed, the de Cornouailles managed to get one of their number to overtake Giorgi III Bagratuni as most glorious man in history).

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Ah so. I knew I could overtake the dang Billungs with some judicious application of - um, that is, with hard work and discipline and self-improvement. Nothing at all to do with making the opposition stumble. :nods:
 

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That's nice, dear. If you'd been paying attention, you'd know that I posted one yesterday. Would you please stop doing that?