There is no Online Activation

[Tronjer]

As you can see to the left, I own quite a few PD titles which are duly registered. Just mention this to point out, that I don't approve piracy and in anticipation of the inevitable flames.

That being said, the registration act was always left to customers discretion with a nice button as incentive. However, according to Vicky 2 site, for the first time a Paradox game will require an online activation and frankly, I'm not willing to let any kind of copy protection impose on me, even it would be a one-time-act and doesn't require to install malware on my system. It's a matter of principle.

If Pd thinks they're big enough now to jump the bandwagon and adopt bad habits of mainstream publishers by offering DLC and clandestinely introducing DRM schemes, that's fine. For the future they can sell their products to an audience, which is accustomed to accept Steam or Securom. I myself won't support them anymore.

/rant off
a displeased old school gamer.

 

[gianlucad]

As you can see to the left, I own quite a few PD titles which are duly registered. Just mention this to point out, that I don't approve piracy and in anticipation of the inevitable flames.

That being said, the registration act was always left to customers discretion with a nice button as incentive. However, according to Vicky 2 site, for the first time a Paradox game will require an online activation and frankly, I'm not willing to let any kind of copy protection impose on me, even it would be a one-time-act and doesn't require to install malware on my system. It's a matter of principle.

If Pd thinks they're big enough now to jump the bandwagon and adopt bad habits of mainstream publishers by offering DLC and clandestinely introducing DRM schemes, that's fine. For the future they can sell their products to an audience, which is accustomed to accept Steam or Securom. I myself won't support them anymore.

/rant off
a displeased old school gamer.

Where did you get that, can you send me the link to it?

If this is for real then I will no longer have a company that I like that sell its games without copy protection!

 

[Tronjer]

From the official site:

http://www.victoria2.com/

 

[Orinsul]

Online Activation is the one thing in the world that will stop me from buying this game.

My computer that can run the game doesn't have internet access. And beside the point its an intolerable and needless feature. IF they are requiring online activation they have lost a customer.

IF you need internet activation to play, i suspect they'll lose alot more players than just me as well.

its a point of arrogance, and for a game with as small a market as this one, its really not something they ought to risk.

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

The way I interpret it is that you need to use the internet if you want to register your game online or if you want to play multiplayer. In what way is this different from previous Paradox games?

 

[Orinsul]

It doesnt say Regisitration, it says Activiation, thats not the same as their other games. Its something new.

borrowed from the bastards at EA and the other moneymen.

I thought Paradox was better than that

 

[Ankios]

I don't get why you guys are fed up with this...

Won't this game be only available online ? Which means it doesn't change anything ...

Anyway, this won't keep me away from the remake of my favorite Paradox game

 

[Orinsul]

What the big deal is?
Basically it means that even IF i buy it, whereas half an hour ago it was WHEN now its IF because of this

IF i buy it, i will then have to wait for a pirated version to become available before i can play it, and the copy i bought would be merely decorative as the only way id be able to play it was though piracy.
and all the problems, not be able to patch, using up broadband limits getting it, probably getting a virus getting it, that comes along with it.

Because the copy i BUY i wouldnt be able to play.

JUST because Paradox have decided that money is the only thing that matters and that they people who actually buy and play their games arent important enough to even give a moments consideration.


AND its really hard to write this without breaking the forum rules and swearing.

 

[Andrelvis]

JUST because Paradox have decided that money is the only thing that matters and that they people who actually buy and play their games arent important enough to even give a moments consideration.

That's really unfair. Paradox has shown to care quite a bit about it's players over the years.

 

[Ankios]

That's really unfair. Paradox has shown to care quite a bit about it's players over the years.

That's totally right and they still do...

Come on, Gamergate is the only online buying games company that permit to buy anything and download it has much as we want without any veryfication... Paradox is full of players and are always here to improve things...

And on this they just begin to do like evrybody else does. A simple online activation without even the need to be online to play !!!

I really don't see the problem... But maybe guys you wanted to find a problem and you found it

 

[Colon]

That's really unfair. Paradox has shown to care quite a bit about it's players over the years.

Right... I've been willing to leave past grievances behind, because I like the intentions they're having with Vic2 and because I appreciate they're making a sequel at all, but Paradox shouldn't push things as far as I am concerned.

 

[unmerged(150720)]

I think it's a great idea by Paradox. I support them in not wanting their products getting pirated. I think the whiners here should stop complaining, if you don't like this feature, then don't buy this game.

 

[Orinsul]

YES in the past they were wonderful

but now they see other companies get away with screwing people over and go hey, we could do that too and because everyone else is we'll get away with it.

IT means alot of people suddenly CANT play the game, just because theyre afriad of pirates who will get around it anyway.

This is a game ive been looking forward to for a damned long time, ive been heavily active on this forum since the very hour it was created. And now ive suddenly been told that when i comes out, no-matter how many copies i buy, I wont be able to play it.

yeah, thats really being considerate.

AND doing the wrong thing just because everybody else is, doesnt make it right.
Doing the RIGHT thing when the bigger companies are doing the wrong thing is what makes smaller companies stand out. Are they about to stop making grand strategy games to go into mass produced and highly advertise rubbish like everyone else is too?

IF Paradox wants to continue being thought of as one of the best gaming companies out there, adopting the worst aspects of their compeditors is about the quickest way to ruin their reputation.

 

[EGaffney]

Dear old school gamers, you grew up when the internet didn't allow you to easily copy software and distribute - steal - tens of millions of dollars' worth of games to users. It is now not only feasible, but socially acceptable, to steal games online, thanks to a generation raised with music-sharing. When a game is mostly sold online, online activation seems to be the least worst option.

 

[Orinsul]

ITs not going to stop it being Pirated, as the people who pirate know all the tricks

its only going to be a problem for people who legitimately buy the game.

as proven by the example of every game from the big companies that already does this

the pirates have 'hacked' versions, only the people who buy it suffer.

 

[unmerged(157031)]

IF Paradox is introducing online activation, I think they will upset a lot of their fans. Most of the people who like Paradox as a company like them because they provide great games while keeping in tune with what its fanbase wants. As far as customer service is concerned they are second to none; however IF this happens it will be a good kick up the backside to its loyal fanbase.

To be honest, I don't really think they are in any position to do so. EA gets away with it because they are so big; they could release a title that loses half their customers and still make more money than a... actually, the analogy I was going to make would probably get me permabanned . Paradox on the other hand is renoun for how good they are to their customers. Hypothetically, if they do introduce OA, they are only going to be harming themselves by tarnishing their reputation.

I think I would still buy the game though, simply because I want it fairly desperatley; but my point still stands.

 

[Andrelvis]

But it is just an online activation... it is not that Paradox doesn't care for it's customers, but the situation where people can download the game but can't activate it on the computer they will play seems frankly to be extremely rare, so it's reasonable that they didn't take that into consideration.

And this may be just a wrong interpretation of what's written there - people should at least wait until this is cleared so that they complain.

 

[Orinsul]

IF Paradox is introducing online activation, I think they will upset a lot of their fans. Most of the people who like Paradox as a company like them because they provide great games while keeping in tune with what its fanbase wants. As far as customer service is concerned they are second to none; however IF this happens it will be a good kick up the backside to its loyal fanbase.

To be honest, I don't really think they are in any position to do so. EA gets away with it because they are so big; they could release a title that loses half their customers and still make more money than a... actually, the analogy I was going to make would probably get me permabanned . Paradox on the other hand is renoun for how good they are to their customers. Hypothetically, if they do introduce OA, they are only going to be harming themselves by tarnishing their reputation.

I think I would still buy the game though, simply because I want it fairly desperatley; but my point still stands.

EXACTLY
theyre saying
the thing that makes us a good company
were not going to do anymore

But it is just an online activation... it is not that Paradox doesn't care for it's customers, but the situation where people can download the game but can't activate it on the computer they will play seems frankly to be extremely rare, so it's reasonable that they didn't take that into consideration.

And this may be just a wrong interpretation of what's written there - people should at least wait until this is cleared so that they complain.

Its not just downloaded, SHOULD people who buy the box be penalised because online download sales are potentially dangerous in piracy terms?
NOT everyone has the internet, Not everyone has internet access on the computer theyd like the game to be on.

NOT everyone can activate things online. And not everyone is willing too either. Its an insult.

 

[Andrelvis]

ITs not going to stop it being Pirated, as the people who pirate know all the tricks

its only going to be a problem for people who legitimately buy the game.

as proven by the example of every game from the big companies that already does this

the pirates have 'hacked' versions, only the people who buy it suffer.

It's not a question of whether it will or won't be pirated - but of the rate of pirating, and it's pretty clear that such a move will reduce the rate of pirating of Victoria 2.

 

[unmerged(150720)]

IF Paradox is introducing online activation, I think they will upset a lot of their fans. Most of the people who like Paradox as a company like them because they provide great games while keeping in tune with what its fanbase wants. As far as customer service is concerned they are second to none; however IF this happens it will be a good kick up the backside to its loyal fanbase.

To be honest, I don't really think they are in any position to do so. EA gets away with it because they are so big; they could release a title that loses half their customers and still make more money than a... actually, the analogy I was going to make would probably get me permabanned . Paradox on the other hand is renoun for how good they are to their customers. Hypothetically, if they do introduce OA, they are only going to be harming themselves by tarnishing their reputation.

I think I would still buy the game though, simply because I want it fairly desperatley; but my point still stands.

Time is changing. There is already 3 versions of Semper Fi on a site we aren't allowed to say here, but some Swedes owns it as well.
I always like to check how fast it goes with pirating. However i like to own the original material and own my it. I support the idea of online activation, but i don't support the way Ubisoft made it. You have to be on internet connection constantly or else Assassins Creed 2 can't play. It was hard to couldn't be able to complete Assassins Creed 2, when i lived without internet for a week.