'There is a revolution target!' uhm... Do you care at all?

[Krajzen]

Usually late game there is a moment when some country falls a victim to revolution disaster and becomes a Revolution Target: it gets government Revolutionary Republic or Revolutionary Empire, score boosts and various strong bonuses. It also gives nearby non constitutional monarchies unrest penalty.

The problem is, as far as I can observe, nobody cares about it..

I have seen it happening to Portugal and France (second case sounds scary but in this game 'France' had only like 1/3 of historical French provinces and was totally eclipsed by Burgundy), it went for decades and nothing happened. It works just like regular national boost. No coalitions against rev target nor hostility caused by 'you made our citizens revolting' nor particularly ambitious behaviour of revolutionary target.

Am I missing something?

 

[sinisalo]

You're right in that none of the AI nations seem to care, but I have squashed a few revolutions, for example Revolutionary Russia in a recent Commonwealth game. There is a fair sized prestige hit unless you declare war, in which case you get a nice +10 to yearly prestige. I suppose there is nothing to stop you from declaring war for the +10 prestige and not actually doing anything further?

 

[josh127]

Don't think you're missing anything. The only wars I've seen against revolution targets are ones I would have expected to see anyway like Russia attacking Revolutionary Ottomans.

 

[Alerias]

I'd like the revolution target to get bigger advantages. It should cause unrest in any countries it borders, gain a ton of bonuses as long as its not put down, but then again counter revolution trigger effects should also be upped when at war against it - and penalties when they are not. Also, to ensure the threat of the revolution target is genuine, I wouldn't mind short MTTH events that literally gets provinces in the same culture group defect to the revolution target.

It ought to be a big deal.

 

[Clownie]

I'd like the revolution target to get bigger advantages. It should cause unrest in any countries it borders, gain a ton of bonuses as long as its not put down, but then again counter revolution trigger effects should also be upped when at war against it - and penalties when they are not. Also, to ensure the threat of the revolution target is genuine, I wouldn't mind short MTTH events that literally gets provinces in the same culture group defect to the revolution target.

It ought to be a big deal.

It does ALL of these things already except for the defecting provinces.

 

[Alerias]

No, it merely pretends to try. The bonuses and penalties right now would be a thing if they happened in 1444. By the time the revolution happens, existing modifiers make the whole thing a joke.

If you want the revolution to be meaningful, it needs to be overhauled.

 

[Wizzington]

Yes, AI is too passive here. Will make some changes.