The Years of Rice and Salt: An EU II Scenario (Dev. Thread) (Now w/ Alpha test!)
Hello, one and all! For those who don't know, the Years of Rice and Salt is an alternative history novel that explores how the world would have developed if 99% of the Europeans were killed off in the Black Plague instead of 33%. I feel that it would make for a very interesting EUII scenario.
I know that there have been three attempts before. The first two failed outright, while the third one succeeded, however I can't seem to download it. So, I have come to try my hand at scenario creation.
We may need to make a few changes. First-off, we need to utterly gut Europe. All European nations are kaput, gone, death-by-plague. This also includes Granada, as it states in the book. And, since the Granadan Muslims died, so too should the Turkish Muslims (Ottoman European holdings) die.
We need to turn the Islamic nations into major colonizers of the newly emptied Europe. From what can be gathered in the book, Europe was colonized as such: The Russian Steppe, the Baltic states, and Poland were all colonized by the Golden Horde. The Balkans and Greece was colonized by the Ottoman Empire. Spain was recolonized by Moroccan and Maghribi settlers in the southern areas and Catalonia, but Jews and Armenians colonized Portugal and Castile, these Jews and Armenians being loyal to whatever Andalusi sultan that granted them permission to colonize. France was colonized by settlers from Andalusia. from there we can suppose that they fanned out to Germany, Britain, Scandinavia, etc.
Christianity is not all gone, however. By 1419 (when the scen will start. Unless someone can make it start in 1409, when the book picks up) Georgia, Trebizond, Nubia, and Ethiopia are independent Christian states, while you have trace Christians surviving in Anatolia, et al. This provides some interesting mod possibilities.
For example, we can get rid of FOUR religions, since all the Christians are left are Orthodox. So we can get rid of Protestants, Reformists, Catholics, Counter-Reform Catholics. This means we can place other religions, such as Sufism (the Sufis, according to YRS [years of rice and salt], blazed the way into Europe), Judaism (the Jews were key to the recolonization of many areas [portugal and Castile], and two other religions should we choose to create them.
What will concern me is how we are to deal with the Holy Roman Empire. Get rid of all German states and you'll have Georgia, Trabzon, Ethiopia, or Nubia becoming HRE.
Tidbits of info:
China discovers the Americas (known as Yingzhou) sometime around 1600 (will look it up) under the guidance of the Vietnamese admiral Kheim. China ends up owning Alaska, the US western coast, and the S. American west coast, along with Aozhou (Australia).
Baraka (Bordeaux), being the center of heresy, was attacked by Al-Andalus. The Baraki fled north to establish Nsara (around OTL Nantes) Nsara became a major naval power, perhaps the colonizer of Islamic holdings in N.America (Basically, the N. American southeast)
Islamic powers colonize The N. American southeast, the Carribbean, and all that China didn't colonize in S. America.
The Iroquois League of Nations becomes huge, getting many nations. By Christian year c. 1953 it controls all of N. America not previously mentioned. This game will only go to 1820, so we'll need to pick and choose.
Islamic European nations gain independence at some point. Nsara and perhaps Baraka gain independence early on... As for others, we'll see. We do know that plausibly, the Balkans don't gain independece until after the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
I work on the map as we speak. Questions? comments? I could use advice and help, especially from those who read the book...
Hello, one and all! For those who don't know, the Years of Rice and Salt is an alternative history novel that explores how the world would have developed if 99% of the Europeans were killed off in the Black Plague instead of 33%. I feel that it would make for a very interesting EUII scenario.
I know that there have been three attempts before. The first two failed outright, while the third one succeeded, however I can't seem to download it. So, I have come to try my hand at scenario creation.
We may need to make a few changes. First-off, we need to utterly gut Europe. All European nations are kaput, gone, death-by-plague. This also includes Granada, as it states in the book. And, since the Granadan Muslims died, so too should the Turkish Muslims (Ottoman European holdings) die.
We need to turn the Islamic nations into major colonizers of the newly emptied Europe. From what can be gathered in the book, Europe was colonized as such: The Russian Steppe, the Baltic states, and Poland were all colonized by the Golden Horde. The Balkans and Greece was colonized by the Ottoman Empire. Spain was recolonized by Moroccan and Maghribi settlers in the southern areas and Catalonia, but Jews and Armenians colonized Portugal and Castile, these Jews and Armenians being loyal to whatever Andalusi sultan that granted them permission to colonize. France was colonized by settlers from Andalusia. from there we can suppose that they fanned out to Germany, Britain, Scandinavia, etc.
Christianity is not all gone, however. By 1419 (when the scen will start. Unless someone can make it start in 1409, when the book picks up) Georgia, Trebizond, Nubia, and Ethiopia are independent Christian states, while you have trace Christians surviving in Anatolia, et al. This provides some interesting mod possibilities.
For example, we can get rid of FOUR religions, since all the Christians are left are Orthodox. So we can get rid of Protestants, Reformists, Catholics, Counter-Reform Catholics. This means we can place other religions, such as Sufism (the Sufis, according to YRS [years of rice and salt], blazed the way into Europe), Judaism (the Jews were key to the recolonization of many areas [portugal and Castile], and two other religions should we choose to create them.
What will concern me is how we are to deal with the Holy Roman Empire. Get rid of all German states and you'll have Georgia, Trabzon, Ethiopia, or Nubia becoming HRE.
Tidbits of info:
China discovers the Americas (known as Yingzhou) sometime around 1600 (will look it up) under the guidance of the Vietnamese admiral Kheim. China ends up owning Alaska, the US western coast, and the S. American west coast, along with Aozhou (Australia).
Baraka (Bordeaux), being the center of heresy, was attacked by Al-Andalus. The Baraki fled north to establish Nsara (around OTL Nantes) Nsara became a major naval power, perhaps the colonizer of Islamic holdings in N.America (Basically, the N. American southeast)
Islamic powers colonize The N. American southeast, the Carribbean, and all that China didn't colonize in S. America.
The Iroquois League of Nations becomes huge, getting many nations. By Christian year c. 1953 it controls all of N. America not previously mentioned. This game will only go to 1820, so we'll need to pick and choose.
Islamic European nations gain independence at some point. Nsara and perhaps Baraka gain independence early on... As for others, we'll see. We do know that plausibly, the Balkans don't gain independece until after the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
I work on the map as we speak. Questions? comments? I could use advice and help, especially from those who read the book...
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