What: Multiplayer HOI 4 Game
When: Sunday nights starting 6:45 PM EST (10:45 PM GMT ?)
Start Date: Sunday JULY 10. I want some time to pass after the games release for any bug fixes/patches and also give us time to get familiar with the game
Length of Game: 3 hours
Speed: 2
Breaks: Top of each hour for five minutes
Host: Me
Series Goal: One Country, Faction, Ruler etc. rules the world!
Game Start Date: 1936
Game End Date: 1998 (Or when common sense dictates that there is a single government left standing)
Series: Begins with World @ War (Part 1) but won’t end there. At the conclusion of this series I will start another.
The Back Story:
Upon the 11th hour on the 11th day of the 11th month peace was declared ending WWI and the war to end all wars was over. However before the ink was dry upon all of the peace treaties; numerous pacts, alliances, coalitions, unions etc. between numerous countries both old and new were being formed.
Not many world leaders at the time thought the war to end all wars had just ended. The smart money was on there being many more wars and possibly additional world wars in the years ahead with human nature being what it was up until that point in history. In the interest of self-preservation, the lessons learned from previous wars, the political and financial upheavals WWI caused therefore due to those (and other factors) many governments around the world were not just simply waiting for another world war to begin but rather they were planning for one to start since the 12th hour of the 12th day of the 12th month.
After WWI the newly formed Universal Jurisdiction Court & World Citizen Courts were formed. The Universal Jurisdiction Court made decisions regarding boundaries, names, alliance, political party etc. and decided what faction; kingdom, government, ruler, republic, empire, dynasty etc. would be placed in power and where.
The World Citizen Court was the first “people’s court” and it ruled on matters of human destiny. It was designed to “do what is right by the people for the people while maintaining peace, order and stability.”
Some ancient ruling parties were brought back into power by the courts as well as some surprising boundaries drawn up by the courts.
The Options:
1. America: Extremely neutral after WWI. The Americans are having a lot of fun in the roaring ‘20’s and the “drinks are on me” ‘30’s as it seems that everyone was getting high as the great depression never reaches American shores in this simulation. 20 plus years of prosperity after WWI and not a whisper of depression/recession nor one in sight have the American’s about as neutral/independent as any nation can be at the start of WWII.
2. Third Reich: Having been severely punished for starting WWI the courts implemented numerous restrictions and mandates regarding any future German military. To combat this what the newly formed Third Reich government did was go underground; literally. Deep within the mountains of the Berchtesgaden Alps and the Ore Mountain Range the German government had placed numerous civilian and more importantly numerous military factories deep inside the hollowed out mountains. Thousands of feet deep thousands of feet wide numerous stories high the factories over the past 8 years have been churning out and storing numerous pieces of equipment and supplies. Through secrecy and deception the German armed forces are bigger, stronger & faster than ever before.
3. England: Despite having long time family, military and economic ties to Germany the English government does not trust their on again off again ally. The English have been preparing their defenses for more than the better half of the two decades after WWI. The British government used the slogan “beat the depression by building defenses” The British government did not have a very clever Slogan Naming Department at that time. Numerous radar instillations, pill boxes, search lights, forts, mine fields, anti-tank defenses, listening stations, civilian guard etc. are woven into a masterful defensive strategy that will be difficult if not impossible to penetrate once it is completed. Can the Brits complete the defenses before an attacker arrives?
4. The Indians were watching the courts very closely soon after WWI. They saw how some countries were getting extremely rich whiles others were being torn into two or more pieces while still others were being removed from the world’s political landscape all together. India decided it was not going to be a pacifist any longer by taking its own destiny it its hands and present their claim to the courts directly. India calculated its best approach to independence was to split herself into four states run by their own independent governments. By doing this the very large and formidable country of India would not look as intimidating and militaristic to the courts eyes. So before the English could reach the courts with their own “Indian” proposal the Indians shocked the world by making their case to the courts themselves. The Indians won the ruling but had to make one concession. The decision by the courts was handed down as follows. The Sikh Empire was placed in charge of the state of Punjab. The Satavahana Dynasty was named the government in charge of the state of Guntur. The British Raj was placed in charge of the state of Calcutta while the Delhi Sultanate was ruler of the state of Delhi. At the confluence of Europe & Asia; India for some leaders could be quite a challenge with the many different scenarios’ that could take place in this simulation. India’s borders are made up of many provinces to protect however the 4 Indian States combined military is not only large for the region but extremely well trained compared to their neighbors. Pacifism is no longer a top Indian agenda. That has been replaced with self-preservation.
5. O.P.E.N. The Oil Producing European Nations is comprised by the nations of Romania, Albania, Hungary & Bulgaria. Soon after WWI these four nations realized that oil not tanks, not nerve gas, not even machine guns were going to be as important to a modern military nation in the upcoming Second World War as oil was going to be. Thus these four agreed to share in the production, transportation, defense etc. of the regions oil. Very defensive minded O.P.E.N. is not going to be a threat to any nation any time soon however attacking her defenses may prove to be just plain disastrous. O.P.E.N. is geographically right in the middle of some potentially very large military actions by many different neighboring nations.
6. Spanish Empire. After WWI the Universal Jurisdiction Court decided that due to Spain’s neutrality during WWI and with the world’s new value being placed upon oil along with her political stability over the centuries that Spain would be responsible for all of the North African states from the Atlantic Ocean to the western half of the Suez Canal. The courts put Spain in charge of infrastructure building; the building of roads, bridges, power grid, factories, air ports, docks etc. the Spanish government was entrusted by both courts to do “the right and honorable thing(s).” as they wrote in their final decision. The only oversight the court made was they did not specify when the Spanish had to relinquish power in this newly formed region. Consequentially, they never did. Now Spain is the WWII power she never was IRL.
7. Another huge change in the pre-WWII landscape made by the courts is that Russia/Soviet Union are now two different governments/nations. Territory West of the Ural Mountains now belongs to the government of the U.S.S.R. While East of the Ural Mountain Range is the country of Russia. Can these two divorced nations share an ideology without driving each other crazy? Could be a one or two player country. Could there be another Russian Revolution?
8. In South America the Inca Empire rules in every country except one; Brazil. If the leaders of these two great empires can work together they could become one of those powers that are just too big to attack. South America in this WWII simulation will not be insignificant
Deus salve sul Americano!
9. The countries of Denmark, Sweden, Finland & Norway formed The Northern Alliance soon after WWI’s completion. The N.A. don’t have to go far to find ancient enemies right on their kynnyksella. With Denmark’s mortal enemy being the Duits while at the same time Finland’s arch nemesis is the Venaja and with Norway’s known hatred for all things Engelsk; it may be up to Sweden to try to show this war thirsty trio that patience is the better part of valor.
10. The newly formed South African government was awarded by the courts the whole of the dark-continent minus the northern most states (awarded to Spain). The South African’s have quickly become a potential force that many factions and independents may be courting to join. The South African’s are the world’s masters in all things artillery. Africa has a poor infrastructure however their manpower & production will be climbing each and every year. The ultimate ‘potential future power’ candidate.
11. The Roman Empire has been reinstated by the courts as a young Italian; Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini convinced the courts that Switzerland, Albania & Yugoslavia should all be placed under Roman rule. The courts agreed that Switzerland & Yugoslavia would become part of the newly formed Roman Empire while Albania would remain part of O.P.E.N. Like most boys of that era Mussolini liked to play with puppets. As soon as he got into power he created two of them; the former Switzerland & former Yugoslavia. The former Switzerland became the Republic of Rose Island. In the former Yugoslavia the Italian puppet titled the Kingdom of Tavolara was formed. Italy has excellent infrastructure. Roads have been in place for centuries, maps are plentiful, shipping lanes established, minerals and raw materials found and easily transported as well as many high population centers throughout the empire will provide the ruler (or rulers) of the Roman Empire many many options to consider.
12. In Asia the Song, Tang & Xin Dynasties were put back into power by the courts. The gold, rubber, black soil, oil etc. that is in Asia at the start of WWII will now be in the hands of Asians not colonialists in this alternate WWII simulation. Yapan much like Asia was largely unknown to the rest of the world prior to WWII. The world was unaware Japan had compiled as large a fleet as they have. China is powerful in this WWII simulation. Nationalist & Communist China’s are sharing a border and an ideology however will this be enough to bind the two or divide them?
13. The Arabic States are formed by Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Oman. They are rich in oil and poor in manpower, infrastructure and factories. The Arabic States are hoping that the French Foreign Legion, The Swiss Guard, Ninja or some other armed force can be purchased or hired to defend their faction. They do however have a very talented and versatile air force. Since they have been selling oil at the end of WWI all factions and multiple countries, empires etc. have been required by the Arabic States to include a license sales agreement as part of any oil transaction. Due to this The Arabic States have in their air force currently: Spitfires, BF 109’s, Mustangs as well as Russian, Oceanic, Chinese in addition to many other planes from many other countries in their very sizable combined air forces. This may be the perfect faction for a very good wheeler/dealer HOI player?
14. In the same area and in the near same predicament as the Arabic States is the Sasanian Empire (Where the word Assassin comes from. The Sasanian soldiers never took prisoners but rather they were Sasanianed (later translated into: assassinated). The countries of this predominantly Persian Empire much like the Arabic States have a lot of oil and few forces to defend it. Stretching from the eastern half of the Suez Canal and back to what are now the modern day countries of Iran & Iraq. The Sasanian Empire could be an interesting and challenging choice for someone to try.
15. In Oceania the countries of Australia and New Zealand became very strong very quickly after WWI. Very soon after the war The Universal Jurisdiction Court awarded all the stock piles of all equipment, guns, ammunition, explosives, artillery, gun powder, bullets, C-4, C-3, C-9, ships, planes etc. and all the machines that built them from all the participants of WWI to be sent to and stored in Australia and New Zealand. With the hundreds upon thousands upon millions of materials and with all the blueprints and the machines that made all the parts that were shipped to Oceania, the Australians and New Zealander’s were able to use that good ole Oceania ingenuity and turn what was once considered to be just scrap and crap into a very balanced and comprehensive military at the start of WWII.
16. The CarCam Alliance (Caribbean & Central American) was formed and awarded after WWI by the courts. The courts wanted more of a check and balance type system in the Western Hemisphere in the hopes that not just one country would become dominate. America’s reluctance to be part of the rest of the world’s affairs after WWI was legendary as you know. Therefore the Courts feared that a united South America would become the sole dominate influence in the entire hemisphere and wanted the nations of Central America as well as the Caribbean nations the ability to unite together to guarantee their sovereignty and independence as they feared a South American offensive.
17. Canada, Greenland & Iceland formed the Northern Lights Republic or N.L.R. The N.L.R. was thought to be just mostly barren frozen wasteland however during the early 1930’s just after the courts ordained the Republic it turned out to be anything but barren. With a new mining technique the N.L.R. invented called ‘fracking’ it has led them to find all types of mineral deposits. With next to no forces on the ground at the beginning of WWII the N.L.R. has all the raw materials to construct a very large force over-time.
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I’ve tried to incorporate many different types of scenarios when I was drawing up these plans, boundaries, alliances etc. I wanted to create a WWII situation that has the very high potential to have multiple wars, being fought all over the world at the same time.
I’m also fully aware of the fact that to find multiple people to agree to meet each and every Sunday night for three hours is going to be a challenge. But if I don’t try/ask I’d never know. So I’m trying/asking.
Game rules to be drawn up and posted at some point. Or if there are a fairly well known set of mostly agreed upon rules already used by some those can be adopted straight away if there is not overwhelming objections.
Also if there was enough interest then I would start one of those free web site thingy’s so members would have a place to go for information. Nothing fancy just up to the minute information. A forum. Just questions and answers.
And yes, I know there are some historical inaccuracies in this scenario. Most were done intentionally. And yes I totally just made up a couple of things up out of thin air that may have sounded like facts. I just wanted to see if you were paying attention!
Please post any comments!
When: Sunday nights starting 6:45 PM EST (10:45 PM GMT ?)
Start Date: Sunday JULY 10. I want some time to pass after the games release for any bug fixes/patches and also give us time to get familiar with the game
Length of Game: 3 hours
Speed: 2
Breaks: Top of each hour for five minutes
Host: Me
Series Goal: One Country, Faction, Ruler etc. rules the world!
Game Start Date: 1936
Game End Date: 1998 (Or when common sense dictates that there is a single government left standing)
Series: Begins with World @ War (Part 1) but won’t end there. At the conclusion of this series I will start another.
The Back Story:
Upon the 11th hour on the 11th day of the 11th month peace was declared ending WWI and the war to end all wars was over. However before the ink was dry upon all of the peace treaties; numerous pacts, alliances, coalitions, unions etc. between numerous countries both old and new were being formed.
Not many world leaders at the time thought the war to end all wars had just ended. The smart money was on there being many more wars and possibly additional world wars in the years ahead with human nature being what it was up until that point in history. In the interest of self-preservation, the lessons learned from previous wars, the political and financial upheavals WWI caused therefore due to those (and other factors) many governments around the world were not just simply waiting for another world war to begin but rather they were planning for one to start since the 12th hour of the 12th day of the 12th month.
After WWI the newly formed Universal Jurisdiction Court & World Citizen Courts were formed. The Universal Jurisdiction Court made decisions regarding boundaries, names, alliance, political party etc. and decided what faction; kingdom, government, ruler, republic, empire, dynasty etc. would be placed in power and where.
The World Citizen Court was the first “people’s court” and it ruled on matters of human destiny. It was designed to “do what is right by the people for the people while maintaining peace, order and stability.”
Some ancient ruling parties were brought back into power by the courts as well as some surprising boundaries drawn up by the courts.
The Options:
1. America: Extremely neutral after WWI. The Americans are having a lot of fun in the roaring ‘20’s and the “drinks are on me” ‘30’s as it seems that everyone was getting high as the great depression never reaches American shores in this simulation. 20 plus years of prosperity after WWI and not a whisper of depression/recession nor one in sight have the American’s about as neutral/independent as any nation can be at the start of WWII.
2. Third Reich: Having been severely punished for starting WWI the courts implemented numerous restrictions and mandates regarding any future German military. To combat this what the newly formed Third Reich government did was go underground; literally. Deep within the mountains of the Berchtesgaden Alps and the Ore Mountain Range the German government had placed numerous civilian and more importantly numerous military factories deep inside the hollowed out mountains. Thousands of feet deep thousands of feet wide numerous stories high the factories over the past 8 years have been churning out and storing numerous pieces of equipment and supplies. Through secrecy and deception the German armed forces are bigger, stronger & faster than ever before.
3. England: Despite having long time family, military and economic ties to Germany the English government does not trust their on again off again ally. The English have been preparing their defenses for more than the better half of the two decades after WWI. The British government used the slogan “beat the depression by building defenses” The British government did not have a very clever Slogan Naming Department at that time. Numerous radar instillations, pill boxes, search lights, forts, mine fields, anti-tank defenses, listening stations, civilian guard etc. are woven into a masterful defensive strategy that will be difficult if not impossible to penetrate once it is completed. Can the Brits complete the defenses before an attacker arrives?
4. The Indians were watching the courts very closely soon after WWI. They saw how some countries were getting extremely rich whiles others were being torn into two or more pieces while still others were being removed from the world’s political landscape all together. India decided it was not going to be a pacifist any longer by taking its own destiny it its hands and present their claim to the courts directly. India calculated its best approach to independence was to split herself into four states run by their own independent governments. By doing this the very large and formidable country of India would not look as intimidating and militaristic to the courts eyes. So before the English could reach the courts with their own “Indian” proposal the Indians shocked the world by making their case to the courts themselves. The Indians won the ruling but had to make one concession. The decision by the courts was handed down as follows. The Sikh Empire was placed in charge of the state of Punjab. The Satavahana Dynasty was named the government in charge of the state of Guntur. The British Raj was placed in charge of the state of Calcutta while the Delhi Sultanate was ruler of the state of Delhi. At the confluence of Europe & Asia; India for some leaders could be quite a challenge with the many different scenarios’ that could take place in this simulation. India’s borders are made up of many provinces to protect however the 4 Indian States combined military is not only large for the region but extremely well trained compared to their neighbors. Pacifism is no longer a top Indian agenda. That has been replaced with self-preservation.
5. O.P.E.N. The Oil Producing European Nations is comprised by the nations of Romania, Albania, Hungary & Bulgaria. Soon after WWI these four nations realized that oil not tanks, not nerve gas, not even machine guns were going to be as important to a modern military nation in the upcoming Second World War as oil was going to be. Thus these four agreed to share in the production, transportation, defense etc. of the regions oil. Very defensive minded O.P.E.N. is not going to be a threat to any nation any time soon however attacking her defenses may prove to be just plain disastrous. O.P.E.N. is geographically right in the middle of some potentially very large military actions by many different neighboring nations.
6. Spanish Empire. After WWI the Universal Jurisdiction Court decided that due to Spain’s neutrality during WWI and with the world’s new value being placed upon oil along with her political stability over the centuries that Spain would be responsible for all of the North African states from the Atlantic Ocean to the western half of the Suez Canal. The courts put Spain in charge of infrastructure building; the building of roads, bridges, power grid, factories, air ports, docks etc. the Spanish government was entrusted by both courts to do “the right and honorable thing(s).” as they wrote in their final decision. The only oversight the court made was they did not specify when the Spanish had to relinquish power in this newly formed region. Consequentially, they never did. Now Spain is the WWII power she never was IRL.
7. Another huge change in the pre-WWII landscape made by the courts is that Russia/Soviet Union are now two different governments/nations. Territory West of the Ural Mountains now belongs to the government of the U.S.S.R. While East of the Ural Mountain Range is the country of Russia. Can these two divorced nations share an ideology without driving each other crazy? Could be a one or two player country. Could there be another Russian Revolution?
8. In South America the Inca Empire rules in every country except one; Brazil. If the leaders of these two great empires can work together they could become one of those powers that are just too big to attack. South America in this WWII simulation will not be insignificant
Deus salve sul Americano!
9. The countries of Denmark, Sweden, Finland & Norway formed The Northern Alliance soon after WWI’s completion. The N.A. don’t have to go far to find ancient enemies right on their kynnyksella. With Denmark’s mortal enemy being the Duits while at the same time Finland’s arch nemesis is the Venaja and with Norway’s known hatred for all things Engelsk; it may be up to Sweden to try to show this war thirsty trio that patience is the better part of valor.
10. The newly formed South African government was awarded by the courts the whole of the dark-continent minus the northern most states (awarded to Spain). The South African’s have quickly become a potential force that many factions and independents may be courting to join. The South African’s are the world’s masters in all things artillery. Africa has a poor infrastructure however their manpower & production will be climbing each and every year. The ultimate ‘potential future power’ candidate.
11. The Roman Empire has been reinstated by the courts as a young Italian; Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini convinced the courts that Switzerland, Albania & Yugoslavia should all be placed under Roman rule. The courts agreed that Switzerland & Yugoslavia would become part of the newly formed Roman Empire while Albania would remain part of O.P.E.N. Like most boys of that era Mussolini liked to play with puppets. As soon as he got into power he created two of them; the former Switzerland & former Yugoslavia. The former Switzerland became the Republic of Rose Island. In the former Yugoslavia the Italian puppet titled the Kingdom of Tavolara was formed. Italy has excellent infrastructure. Roads have been in place for centuries, maps are plentiful, shipping lanes established, minerals and raw materials found and easily transported as well as many high population centers throughout the empire will provide the ruler (or rulers) of the Roman Empire many many options to consider.
12. In Asia the Song, Tang & Xin Dynasties were put back into power by the courts. The gold, rubber, black soil, oil etc. that is in Asia at the start of WWII will now be in the hands of Asians not colonialists in this alternate WWII simulation. Yapan much like Asia was largely unknown to the rest of the world prior to WWII. The world was unaware Japan had compiled as large a fleet as they have. China is powerful in this WWII simulation. Nationalist & Communist China’s are sharing a border and an ideology however will this be enough to bind the two or divide them?
13. The Arabic States are formed by Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Oman. They are rich in oil and poor in manpower, infrastructure and factories. The Arabic States are hoping that the French Foreign Legion, The Swiss Guard, Ninja or some other armed force can be purchased or hired to defend their faction. They do however have a very talented and versatile air force. Since they have been selling oil at the end of WWI all factions and multiple countries, empires etc. have been required by the Arabic States to include a license sales agreement as part of any oil transaction. Due to this The Arabic States have in their air force currently: Spitfires, BF 109’s, Mustangs as well as Russian, Oceanic, Chinese in addition to many other planes from many other countries in their very sizable combined air forces. This may be the perfect faction for a very good wheeler/dealer HOI player?
14. In the same area and in the near same predicament as the Arabic States is the Sasanian Empire (Where the word Assassin comes from. The Sasanian soldiers never took prisoners but rather they were Sasanianed (later translated into: assassinated). The countries of this predominantly Persian Empire much like the Arabic States have a lot of oil and few forces to defend it. Stretching from the eastern half of the Suez Canal and back to what are now the modern day countries of Iran & Iraq. The Sasanian Empire could be an interesting and challenging choice for someone to try.
15. In Oceania the countries of Australia and New Zealand became very strong very quickly after WWI. Very soon after the war The Universal Jurisdiction Court awarded all the stock piles of all equipment, guns, ammunition, explosives, artillery, gun powder, bullets, C-4, C-3, C-9, ships, planes etc. and all the machines that built them from all the participants of WWI to be sent to and stored in Australia and New Zealand. With the hundreds upon thousands upon millions of materials and with all the blueprints and the machines that made all the parts that were shipped to Oceania, the Australians and New Zealander’s were able to use that good ole Oceania ingenuity and turn what was once considered to be just scrap and crap into a very balanced and comprehensive military at the start of WWII.
16. The CarCam Alliance (Caribbean & Central American) was formed and awarded after WWI by the courts. The courts wanted more of a check and balance type system in the Western Hemisphere in the hopes that not just one country would become dominate. America’s reluctance to be part of the rest of the world’s affairs after WWI was legendary as you know. Therefore the Courts feared that a united South America would become the sole dominate influence in the entire hemisphere and wanted the nations of Central America as well as the Caribbean nations the ability to unite together to guarantee their sovereignty and independence as they feared a South American offensive.
17. Canada, Greenland & Iceland formed the Northern Lights Republic or N.L.R. The N.L.R. was thought to be just mostly barren frozen wasteland however during the early 1930’s just after the courts ordained the Republic it turned out to be anything but barren. With a new mining technique the N.L.R. invented called ‘fracking’ it has led them to find all types of mineral deposits. With next to no forces on the ground at the beginning of WWII the N.L.R. has all the raw materials to construct a very large force over-time.
~~~~~~~~~
I’ve tried to incorporate many different types of scenarios when I was drawing up these plans, boundaries, alliances etc. I wanted to create a WWII situation that has the very high potential to have multiple wars, being fought all over the world at the same time.
I’m also fully aware of the fact that to find multiple people to agree to meet each and every Sunday night for three hours is going to be a challenge. But if I don’t try/ask I’d never know. So I’m trying/asking.
Game rules to be drawn up and posted at some point. Or if there are a fairly well known set of mostly agreed upon rules already used by some those can be adopted straight away if there is not overwhelming objections.
Also if there was enough interest then I would start one of those free web site thingy’s so members would have a place to go for information. Nothing fancy just up to the minute information. A forum. Just questions and answers.
And yes, I know there are some historical inaccuracies in this scenario. Most were done intentionally. And yes I totally just made up a couple of things up out of thin air that may have sounded like facts. I just wanted to see if you were paying attention!
Please post any comments!
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