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Humm. It may work, but it's not very realistic; those German battleships didn't have the range to get beyond the North Sea. They were intended for a decisive battle close to Germany's coast, not imperial defense. But never mind, your strategy would certainly be a lot better.
I believe Germany has also has 1 or 2 ships in the Med sea. Needless to say, I think they are doomed, unless you can somehow get them to a Turkish port before they get blown up.
Sadly, Austria isn't going to be much help navally. She has a pitiful navy.
Needless to say, good luck once more.
Sadly, Austria isn't going to be much help navally. She has a pitiful navy.
Needless to say, good luck once more.
Quirinus308 said:
Heh. Any chance I could make this the main quote in my sig substitute? :rofl:
Ah, the SMS Baden. I already liked this AAR, but now that Baden is involved in even the slightest way it's a thousand times better.
Great AAR here, just read through it (and supposed to be revising for a Wednesday exam you vile writer you! )
I like your plans though in the case of your Africa one I'd say leave your Sudwestafrika army on it own and let in wreak havoc in South Africa- the Afrikaans have bugger all to throw at you and I've seen SA get a seperate peace after a few months. Just an idea of course.
Keep up the good work.
)I like your plans though in the case of your Africa one I'd say leave your Sudwestafrika army on it own and let in wreak havoc in South Africa- the Afrikaans have bugger all to throw at you and I've seen SA get a seperate peace after a few months. Just an idea of course.
Keep up the good work.
Nice overview of the upcoming mini-fronts! I bet the fighting in China, Namibia, Micronesia, and Togo is even less heard-of than the Balkans! Because I know absolutely nothing about them!
Got a suggestion for your colonial strategy if you don't mind using exploits:
Unlike in OTL, when Germany had no lines of communication to its colonies to ship in weapons and supplies, you can easily raise new troops in your colonies. Particulary in China, but also in Africa.
Unlike in OTL, when Germany had no lines of communication to its colonies to ship in weapons and supplies, you can easily raise new troops in your colonies. Particulary in China, but also in Africa.
28 Dreadnoughts & 62 Battleships!!! ((swoons))
I do like strategy number 2 the best, I think -- much like the German raider strategy in 1940-41. I don't know that you can improve upon the model with strategy #3 -- it seems like 2 would be better as you're not going to have a serious advantage unless you completely overwhelm your enemy. You may do that once or twice with a single force, but you may find several opportunities if you have smaller forces that still overwhelm any small cruiser/transport task force.
As for strategy #1 -- go for it, if you have the resources! I'm sure the Army would have a lot to say on the subject, though... and none of it good!
Looking forward to the beginning of combat!
Rensslaer
I do like strategy number 2 the best, I think -- much like the German raider strategy in 1940-41. I don't know that you can improve upon the model with strategy #3 -- it seems like 2 would be better as you're not going to have a serious advantage unless you completely overwhelm your enemy. You may do that once or twice with a single force, but you may find several opportunities if you have smaller forces that still overwhelm any small cruiser/transport task force.
As for strategy #1 -- go for it, if you have the resources! I'm sure the Army would have a lot to say on the subject, though... and none of it good!
Looking forward to the beginning of combat!
Rensslaer
Quick Feedback...
Just to let you guys know, I have started although I'm not ready to post yet. A couple of quick acknowldgements to some new visitors to the Great War...
King of Men, Judas Maccabeus, Jape, Neroon, Anarhco Liberal
Thanks for stopping by, I hopethis tread can live up to the hype.
Judas Maccabeus: Sure go ahead, by the way, I took some time to look at your sig substitues, great idea and some good stuff.
Neroon: I intend to raise some colonial troops if it looks like I can hold my territory. I could probably raise enough Chinese troops to hold off the British, but I don't know that it would be worth my time. I could use those troops in other areas, but I will definitley be raising some divisions in Afrika.
Several people have mentioned about the forgotten fronts (Balkans, Africa, Far East). One fact that often gets overlooked is that the last battles of the war took place in German Ostafrika, 2 weeks after the armistace was signed.
Rens: I have settled on a combination of all three stratagies. I will build more dreadnaughts as I am able, and I will break my fleet up into smaller units, but I think that the best hope for survival is to sail to the Atlantic or Pacific. I think that the British AI will keep the bulk of the home fleet neer England, which will allow me to have numerical superiority in the South Atlantic or Pacific (or both)
Just to let you guys know, I have started although I'm not ready to post yet. A couple of quick acknowldgements to some new visitors to the Great War...
King of Men, Judas Maccabeus, Jape, Neroon, Anarhco Liberal
Thanks for stopping by, I hopethis tread can live up to the hype.
Judas Maccabeus: Sure go ahead, by the way, I took some time to look at your sig substitues, great idea and some good stuff.
Neroon: I intend to raise some colonial troops if it looks like I can hold my territory. I could probably raise enough Chinese troops to hold off the British, but I don't know that it would be worth my time. I could use those troops in other areas, but I will definitley be raising some divisions in Afrika.
Several people have mentioned about the forgotten fronts (Balkans, Africa, Far East). One fact that often gets overlooked is that the last battles of the war took place in German Ostafrika, 2 weeks after the armistace was signed.
Rens: I have settled on a combination of all three stratagies. I will build more dreadnaughts as I am able, and I will break my fleet up into smaller units, but I think that the best hope for survival is to sail to the Atlantic or Pacific. I think that the British AI will keep the bulk of the home fleet neer England, which will allow me to have numerical superiority in the South Atlantic or Pacific (or both)
Highly promising AAR, I'll be surely following this one...
Has been years since the last time I played Victoria. If there's one thing I remember from it, it is the defeat of mine in this very same scenario, Great War as the Germans. I never really got into the game techniques though, and one of the most important reasons for my failure was propably the sheer noobishness of mine. In any case, I landed to Ireland to "Liberate" it, and my whole fleet was supporting the operation. It all went fine, but then the cursed Brits landed to my completely undefended North Sea coast near the Danish border. And from that moment, it all went downhill.
So, I suggest that if you decide to send you whole fleet to sail around the globe atleast make sure that there are at least some forces fovering your coastline. Suddenly noticing the Union Jack flying on the roof of the city hall of Hamburg is truly something no Kaiser wants to see
But yea, in any case, good luck with you war! I'll be closely following.
Has been years since the last time I played Victoria. If there's one thing I remember from it, it is the defeat of mine in this very same scenario, Great War as the Germans. I never really got into the game techniques though, and one of the most important reasons for my failure was propably the sheer noobishness of mine. In any case, I landed to Ireland to "Liberate" it, and my whole fleet was supporting the operation. It all went fine, but then the cursed Brits landed to my completely undefended North Sea coast near the Danish border. And from that moment, it all went downhill.
So, I suggest that if you decide to send you whole fleet to sail around the globe atleast make sure that there are at least some forces fovering your coastline. Suddenly noticing the Union Jack flying on the roof of the city hall of Hamburg is truly something no Kaiser wants to see
But yea, in any case, good luck with you war! I'll be closely following.
Aug 5th-Aug 12th 1914
Just so everyone knows, this AAR is going to be very graphic heavy…
Also I’ve decided that I will not take control of the Austrian and Ottoman units at this time, as I feel that the AI is already at a disadvantage compared to the human that it just wouldn’t be fair if he had to face a human player on all fronts, but enough of that, here we go…
On August 5th, the time for diplomacy had ended, and it was time for the generals, admirals, and common soldiers to determine the fate of Germany, and the world. The reserves had all been called up and the units were formed, but they were not yet up to full strength. First on the agenda for the high command was to procure the resources needed for the war. On the invoice: regular clothes, explosives, steamers, artillery, small arms, ammunition etc…
There actually is still more diplomacy to do, as there are neutral states that need to be drawn into the war. Our first targets will be…
I choose Greece over Bulgaria because we are already at 50 in relations, compared to a 0 for Bulgaria. The armies of the two nations are comparable, but Greece has a navy and the Bulgarians do not. I chose Sweden for two reasons. They also have a navy, and if they join they will open up another front with the Russians. In hind sight I should haave used both of my starting DI on the same country, but oh well.
On Aug 5th, all naval units in Germany (except the subs) were given orders to converge just of the Danish coast in preparation for a run up the Norwegian coast and then to the Atlantic.
On the eastern front, troops proceeded according to the original pans to defend the Polish frontier while attempting to draw the Russians into Ostprussia.
In the west, all troops were told to hold their positions. The plan is to have the French make the first move, and this they finally did on August 8th. As expected the French sent a force from Verdun to liberate Luxembourg.
By now we had enough clothes to start converting soldiers, and this we did. It took over 1300 manpower just to reinforce the army up to full strength. After this we looked for some Allied units that had not been reinforced, as a potential target of opportunity. We found one in Africa.
The naval plan was to sail the High Seas Fleet out north and into the Atlantic. It would then join with a cruiser from the Caribbean, and another cruiser just off the tip of South America. The Gulf of Mexico was chosen as the rendezvous point. After the fleets merge, the fleet was to sail to Africa and assist the troops there, either by providing shore bombardment, or by transporting units as needed. A small screening action took place off the German coast just in case the British Home Fleet was in the area (it wasn’t) and the rest of the fleet made its run.
On August 12th, the western front finally came alive. Hindenburg took the I. Armee (28 divisions) and began to march towards Verdun. I am hopeful that it will be unoccupied when he arrives on Aug 19th. Falkenhayen lead the II. Armee (28 divisions) to assault the Belgians while Ludendorff led a combined assault against the fortifications at Nancy. His combined force totaled 28 divisions. All cavalry units (9 total divisions) were to converge on undefended Arlon.
So far everything is going exactly according to plan.
Just so everyone knows, this AAR is going to be very graphic heavy…
Also I’ve decided that I will not take control of the Austrian and Ottoman units at this time, as I feel that the AI is already at a disadvantage compared to the human that it just wouldn’t be fair if he had to face a human player on all fronts, but enough of that, here we go…
On August 5th, the time for diplomacy had ended, and it was time for the generals, admirals, and common soldiers to determine the fate of Germany, and the world. The reserves had all been called up and the units were formed, but they were not yet up to full strength. First on the agenda for the high command was to procure the resources needed for the war. On the invoice: regular clothes, explosives, steamers, artillery, small arms, ammunition etc…
There actually is still more diplomacy to do, as there are neutral states that need to be drawn into the war. Our first targets will be…
I choose Greece over Bulgaria because we are already at 50 in relations, compared to a 0 for Bulgaria. The armies of the two nations are comparable, but Greece has a navy and the Bulgarians do not. I chose Sweden for two reasons. They also have a navy, and if they join they will open up another front with the Russians. In hind sight I should haave used both of my starting DI on the same country, but oh well.
On Aug 5th, all naval units in Germany (except the subs) were given orders to converge just of the Danish coast in preparation for a run up the Norwegian coast and then to the Atlantic.
On the eastern front, troops proceeded according to the original pans to defend the Polish frontier while attempting to draw the Russians into Ostprussia.
In the west, all troops were told to hold their positions. The plan is to have the French make the first move, and this they finally did on August 8th. As expected the French sent a force from Verdun to liberate Luxembourg.
By now we had enough clothes to start converting soldiers, and this we did. It took over 1300 manpower just to reinforce the army up to full strength. After this we looked for some Allied units that had not been reinforced, as a potential target of opportunity. We found one in Africa.
The naval plan was to sail the High Seas Fleet out north and into the Atlantic. It would then join with a cruiser from the Caribbean, and another cruiser just off the tip of South America. The Gulf of Mexico was chosen as the rendezvous point. After the fleets merge, the fleet was to sail to Africa and assist the troops there, either by providing shore bombardment, or by transporting units as needed. A small screening action took place off the German coast just in case the British Home Fleet was in the area (it wasn’t) and the rest of the fleet made its run.
On August 12th, the western front finally came alive. Hindenburg took the I. Armee (28 divisions) and began to march towards Verdun. I am hopeful that it will be unoccupied when he arrives on Aug 19th. Falkenhayen lead the II. Armee (28 divisions) to assault the Belgians while Ludendorff led a combined assault against the fortifications at Nancy. His combined force totaled 28 divisions. All cavalry units (9 total divisions) were to converge on undefended Arlon.
So far everything is going exactly according to plan.
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Oh, Quirinius!!! ((sighs))
I don't think you know what you're doing to me! Every time I see a photo of one of those WWI battlewagons, I have to fight down a visceral urge to go play my HPS Jutland sim!!!
What an exciting start to the war! And how well told. I think I am going to enjoy this, very much!
I've never tried a WWI scenario, so you're my guinea pig. I will live vicariously through you!
Rensslaer
I don't think you know what you're doing to me! Every time I see a photo of one of those WWI battlewagons, I have to fight down a visceral urge to go play my HPS Jutland sim!!!
What an exciting start to the war! And how well told. I think I am going to enjoy this, very much!
I've never tried a WWI scenario, so you're my guinea pig. I will live vicariously through you!
Rensslaer
Quirinus308 said:
That's usually the moment everything falls apart, from what I've seen. But I think you'll do well.
I just like the idea of the High Seas Fleet's "Atlantic run". It just has that interesting feel to it. I hope it works out, though...