I've fixed some cultures and religions in the scenario and I'll publish it today. If you want to use any of my settings, then do this.
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If you've downloaded the newest beta, you'll see that the cultures in the Americas is already done, and iberian is split into Spanish and Portuguese as well. And we are doing religion _completly_ different than in the 1419 scenario, so you do not need to spend your time editing what has already been edited, in addition, it would be practically impossible to merge different parts of two scenarios, if I felt like doing so.
No need for all this bickering. Brings tears to my ears. Just look at Miller's map and if you see anything wrong to you, suggest a change. Simple as that.
Sorry that you made another map, but there was already an existing one.
Sorry that you made another map, but there was already an existing one.
I did not read the entire thread, but seeing the maps were enough for me to notice some... mistakes in Eastern Europe:
1. The province of Prussia should belong to Russia;
2. The province of Memel should belong to Lithuania;
3. The province of Lithuania must belong to Lithuania (isn't this obvious?);
4. The province of Kurland should belong to Latvia;
5. As Lithuania is split into two parts then, Latvia should give mil. access to Lithuania from the very start of scenario;
6. The province of Smolensk should belong to Russia;
7. The provinces of Polotsk and Wielikia should belong to Belarus;
8. The province of Galizia should belong to Ukraine;
9. There should be an independent Moldova with the province of Moldova;
10. The province of Presburg should belong to Slovakia;
11. The province of Moravia should belong to Bohemia;
12. The province of Erz should belong to Bohemia;
13. The province of Ostmarch should belong to Austria;
14. There should be an independent Slovenia with the provinces of Steiermark and Istria;
Just my two cents... But hey, isn't this all logical?
1. The province of Prussia should belong to Russia;
2. The province of Memel should belong to Lithuania;
3. The province of Lithuania must belong to Lithuania (isn't this obvious?);
4. The province of Kurland should belong to Latvia;
5. As Lithuania is split into two parts then, Latvia should give mil. access to Lithuania from the very start of scenario;
6. The province of Smolensk should belong to Russia;
7. The provinces of Polotsk and Wielikia should belong to Belarus;
8. The province of Galizia should belong to Ukraine;
9. There should be an independent Moldova with the province of Moldova;
10. The province of Presburg should belong to Slovakia;
11. The province of Moravia should belong to Bohemia;
12. The province of Erz should belong to Bohemia;
13. The province of Ostmarch should belong to Austria;
14. There should be an independent Slovenia with the provinces of Steiermark and Istria;
Just my two cents... But hey, isn't this all logical?
The reason why Lithuania don't have Lithuania (prov.) is that It would make it too big. If Russia get's Prussia, Poland would look too deformed.
1st: Lithuania is the biggest of all Baltic states, and even bigger than such countries as Belgium (which gets 3 provinces, somehow);
2nd: No Poland wouldn't look deformed, at least not more deformed than Belarus or the same Lithuania.
2nd: No Poland wouldn't look deformed, at least not more deformed than Belarus or the same Lithuania.
Ok. I think the Map makers can answer those better than I. I opened a thread about it.
Hmmm, isn't the map on the first page outdated anyawy?Where is the newest one?Originally posted by Legolas
I did not read the entire thread, but seeing the maps were enough for me to notice some... mistakes in Eastern Europe:
1. The province of Prussia should belong to Russia;
2. The province of Memel should belong to Lithuania;
3. The province of Lithuania must belong to Lithuania (isn't this obvious?);
4. The province of Kurland should belong to Latvia;
5. As Lithuania is split into two parts then, Latvia should give mil. access to Lithuania from the very start of scenario;
6. The province of Smolensk should belong to Russia;
7. The provinces of Polotsk and Wielikia should belong to Belarus;
8. The province of Galizia should belong to Ukraine;
9. There should be an independent Moldova with the province of Moldova;
10. The province of Presburg should belong to Slovakia;
11. The province of Moravia should belong to Bohemia;
12. The province of Erz should belong to Bohemia;
13. The province of Ostmarch should belong to Austria;
14. There should be an independent Slovenia with the provinces of Steiermark and Istria;
Just my two cents... But hey, isn't this all logical?
the map is just bad. however you would need thousants of regions for europe alone if it was to be correct, only one region per +20.000 ppl city would work. this is the civ engine however, not the eu engine.
I agree, iwannhs. However we need at least *some* realism, right? And the more the better - so several changes can be done still
Originally posted by Legolas
I did not read the entire thread, but seeing the maps were enough for me to notice some... mistakes in Eastern Europe:
1. The province of Prussia should belong to Russia;
2. The province of Memel should belong to Lithuania;
3. The province of Lithuania must belong to Lithuania (isn't this obvious?);
4. The province of Kurland should belong to Latvia;
5. As Lithuania is split into two parts then, Latvia should give mil. access to Lithuania from the very start of scenario;
6. The province of Smolensk should belong to Russia;
7. The provinces of Polotsk and Wielikia should belong to Belarus;
8. The province of Galizia should belong to Ukraine;
9. There should be an independent Moldova with the province of Moldova;
10. The province of Presburg should belong to Slovakia;
11. The province of Moravia should belong to Bohemia;
12. The province of Erz should belong to Bohemia;
13. The province of Ostmarch should belong to Austria;
14. There should be an independent Slovenia with the provinces of Steiermark and Istria;
Just my two cents... But hey, isn't this all logical?
seeming logical, maybe; but it also looks (at first glance) that you are using province names to influence your decisions, and not objectively looking at where some of these territories lie.
for example, using the province 'moldova' to stand in for the country of moldova would a more gross misrepresentation than giving 'macedonia' to the republic of macedonija. the province names can always be changed in the text file.
so, we'll have to wait and see if and how the map can be redone, or if the names that appear on the map can be renamed...
stephanos
I can agree about Moldova. However we need these countries (Moldova and Macedonija). But there is no logical place to put Macedonija. OTOH, Moldova CAN be put in the Moldova province, because:
a. it does not give Moldova a port (logical);
b. it is in the same place as the country of Moldova IRL (logical);
c. Romania is huge even w/ out Moldova (quite-logical).
None of these work for Macedonija though.
no.
first, moldova does have a port, where the dnestr river meets the black sea.
second, it is not where the province of 'moldova' is in real life; on eu's map it would be about half of 'bujak' and only a very small part of 'moldova' (about 1/6 of the northeast).
this map was never intended to portray the modern world; it's a comic book representation of the medieval world. again, i stress the idea that we need to wait until the map is redrawn before assigning provinces in the balkans.
stephanos
At least someone has understand something.
I take it again. There is someone working on hacking the map and he has only one file left (the hardest one off course) before he is done. After that can we redraw the map and maybe we can add provinces. But hes got a lot work left so I expect him to be finish in September or later.
So I think its better you come with examples how we should redraw the map. Off course map complain is still wanted for the betas.
redrawing the balcan map will be a problem. moldavia indeed shouldnt have a port, it doesnt matter that it has a river running through it since it shouldnt have a fleet on the black sea. albania is almost 200% bigger than it should be, fyrom doesnt exist at all, so two new provinces there. I suggest creating the province epiros formed out of the southern half of eu2 albania and the west part of the region hellas. fyrom should have 40% (around half anyway) of the eu2 macedonia, the northern half.
this means 2 new provinces which means 2 existing provinces being lost. perhaps you can lose some of the sahara desert provinces? or the gobi desert provinces. no one cares about the deserts anyway
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