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I was introducing a friend to CKII yesterday and giving them a broad overview of how to play, and while doing this, I noticed that Prince William of England (son of King Henry I) is listed as dying in 1120 of natural causes. The story of his death is a particularly crazy one - featuring boy racing and a drink-driving accident involving a vehicle - and I was going to initially just suggest it be added to the game, but then I thought it could be worth expanding into an event chain or something...

...so, to elaborate, the White Ship Disaster happened when Henry I and his heir Prince William (one of only two legitimate children out of 26) were returning to England from Normandy. Henry was approached by a man named Thomas, whose father had captained the ship that took William the Conqueror to England, and thus he begged to be allowed to do the same for Henry. Henry had already made arrangements, so instead William and his entourage went on Thomas' ship; the 'Blanche-Nef' (White Ship), and proceeded to get roaring drunk along with the crew while Henry started sailed home. In the middle of the night, the very-drunk passengers insisted upon setting sail and racing Henry's ship, and they proceeded to smack into a rock and sink, killing all but a random butcher who'd been onboard to collect a debt...and as a result, England plunged into the 'Anarchy' several years later, as Henry had a female heir and nobles put another relative on the throne, sparking a civil war.

Anyway, considering how ridiculous this is, it would fit perfectly in CKII as some sort of awful event that can happen to a character with the drunkard trait, perhaps tweaked to involve a horse drawn carriage or something if it takes place on land instead. It could also be edited so that it only fires for unlanded members of the royal family, since the ruling monarch's retainers would probably be a BIT more careful...

(oh, and while I'm here, on the topic of crazy historic deaths, can someone update the history of the Roman Emperors so that their deaths are accurate and not all just "died of natural causes"? Emperor Carus was STRUCK BY LIGHTNING while on campaign in Persia and his troops went "Okay, obviously Jupiter is pissed; this war is over!")
 
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Great post, and definitely a good idea for a narrative event chain.

If this period interests you I strongly recommend the series 'The Pillars of the Earth' starring Ian McShane. The White Ship disaster plays a small role in it, but it's a great series in general and well worth watching!
 

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@Almaron

You inspired me to add all the missing relevant people/marriages and causes of death in my mod. :D
 

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Heh, thank you! :)
If it's any help, I actually updated the history files for the Roman and Byzantine Emperors in my own base mod, so I could send you those files if you like? The only things that might need tweaking are...well, I updated Michael III's history so that he was still ruling in 867, for one, but also you might need to update localisation for death by lightning for Emperor Carus (it is an option listed in the death file, but it lacks localisation)...

(BTW thanks for the story recommendation; I'd seen an advert for that show ages ago and had completely forgotten what it was called!)
 

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Heh, thank you! :)
If it's any help, I actually updated the history files for the Roman and Byzantine Emperors in my own base mod, so I could send you those files if you like? The only things that might need tweaking are...well, I updated Michael III's history so that he was still ruling in 867, for one, but also you might need to update localisation for death by lightning for Emperor Carus (it is an option listed in the death file, but it lacks localisation)...

(BTW thanks for the story recommendation; I'd seen an advert for that show ages ago and had completely forgotten what it was called!)
Sure, upload the file here!

What else does your mod have in?
 

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Hang on, I'll upload it to Dropbox now...it's still very much a WIP, but it does have;
*Updated death records for Roman and Byzantine rulers.
*Revised duchy setup - no duchies have more than four provinces, for one thing, but there are also a lot of new states, revised names, borders, etc.
*Revised state names - for instance, West Francia is 'Neustria' in the 769 start date, and Great Moravia and Bohemia are now the same state, but with different names depending on the culture of the ruler.
*Ludwig the German scenario - in the 867 start date, once Ludwig dies, East Francia is destroyed and replaced with the Kingdoms of Saxony, Swabia and Bavaria...his kids had revolted against him prior to the game start date and he'd been forced to agree to carve up his realm upon his death.
*Michael III scenario - in the 867 start date, Basil the Macedonian starts out as a vassal of Emperor Michael III...at some point I'll add an event chain to simulate Basil's usurping of the throne.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sma19bkyi2q4rq0/AABzn_KqIzPfcyv9-1UCym8ea?dl=0
There's more, but that's all I can recall off the top of my head.

...anyway, methinks we're getting a bit off-topic. ^^;
Back to the White Ship...are there any other disasters or the like that could be added as events?
 

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Sure, I'll get back to you via PM.