So what happened to Conservative miniority government supported by Liberals?
((Heh, I don't think dom Contravarius has truly ever hated anyone (exept for Maggie, of course), it has always been more of a impractical desire to destroy and spread despair, even the anti-semitism part. ...And, now that the Bronze Age of dom Contravarius has ended, I think it's time for a Caesaropope who has a more pragmatical and maybe philosophical approach to life and politics. I've unified all these teachings into one, I've created Ultratotalitarianism, now it's time for the Heroic Age of Caesaropapism to start.
How about 007: The Fantastic Sphere of Peril? As you can see, I took more of an poetic approach.))
((No, I actually would be perfectly OK with Labour victory now, and I'm seriously considering voting for Labour just because I think it would be good thing for the story - while I remain top hat and I think that Tories policies are the best for Britain, I'm mostly concerned about the story, which I mentioned several times already. That's why it saddens me that some people treat those iAARs like actual politics. But you make a fine point, while I still despise Liberals this discussion is indeed better than another economy debate.))
Antonine said:This is presuming, of course, that we can come up with a suitable programme for government.
Personally I would recommend:
An agreement to privatise state-owned industries which are making a loss No, all industries should be treated on a case by case basis. It would be sheer idiocy to privatise any industry which provides an essential service, such as British Rail, if it were making a loss, just because it were making a loss.
A referendum on entry to the EEC That's out of Britain's hands. A referendum on whether or not we should seek entry into the EEC might be better
A reduction in the basic rate of income tax and the abolition of business rates in favour of a basic land value tax on non-residential land No.
The setting up of Industry Pay Board containing representatives of employers and of unions to negotiate pay settlements Fair arbitration for workers sounds like a Labour policy!
Reform of Northern Ireland's institutions, including the introduction of PR This might be needed urgently in light of current circumstances.
The introduction of regional assemblies with control over infrastructure spending in order to boost economically deprived parts of the country Definitely not.
A 50/50 split in cabinet seats and ministries No, those are decided by Tommy and we shouldn't seek to throttle him.
A mutual power of veto over any policy proposal not included in the programme for government same as above, that sort of thing is out of our hands
Someone needs to stop being so contradictory.
Eh? Didn't you mistake me with Antonine?
If Labour wins we will probally not see the right shift/thathcer, as then the rigtists in Tory party have been defeated and go back to the center policies of One Nation.))
((If you want the same events as irl, you're in the wrong place. The shift to the right from the center have already happened in this timelime, it happened 10 years earlier than irl. Face it, or leave it If Labour wins we will probally not see the right shift/thathcer, as then the rigtists in Tory party have been defeated and go back to the center policies of One Nation.))
Nope.
((Phehe, nice try. And the Silver Age Caesaropope would've agreed with you. But honestly, I'm thinking about voting commies again if this whole NF thing doesn't work out.))((How about Perilsphere? There was this one Bond movie called Thunderball.
I guess that I can't convince you and your fellow paper hats to join top hats in the next election and vote Tory? I would like to see two historical Tory majorities after this election, and, you know, Liberals are plotting. Just think about it - crushing unions, glorious defence of Falklands, fighting the Reds... How can you say "No" to this?))
Then what's the point of quoting me and Antonine in one post?
Nope.
Unlikely. We still have one more election to go before the decade is out, and I'd expect Thatcher to be the leader by then. If she wins, much Thatcherism; if she loses, she's finished and Niko dies a broken soul.
Or Thatcher throws a coup and kills all the Argentinians.
- An agreement to privatise state-owned industries which are making a loss
- A referendum on entry to the EEC
- A reduction in the basic rate of income tax and the abolition of business rates in favour of a basic land value tax on non-residential land
- The setting up of Industry Pay Board containing representatives of employers and of unions to negotiate pay settlements
- Reform of Northern Ireland's institutions, including the introduction of PR
- The introduction of regional assemblies with control over infrastructure spending in order to boost economically deprived parts of the country
- A 50/50 split in cabinet seats and ministries
- A mutual power of veto over any policy proposal not included in the programme for government
Given that it seems Labour might be providing 80% of the potential government's seats it's interesting how heavily your proposals favours your own party. I particularly like the bit where they get half the government, a veto on policy and a free pass at sweeping constitutional change!
Also what is this obscession about loss in state industries? They're not there to make a profit, they're there to provide a public service! Or in some cases, main control of key strategic interests.
Given that it seems Labour might be providing 80% of the potential government's seats it's interesting how heavily your proposals favours your own party. I particularly like the bit where they get half the government, a veto on policy and a free pass at sweeping constitutional change!
Also what is this obscession about loss in state industries? They're not there to make a profit, they're there to provide a public service! Or in some cases, main control of key strategic interests.
If I have to quote seventeen different posts, should I make seventeen separate posts one after the other in close succession? Don't be silly.
Again, evidence that several Liberals do not favor any accord with Labour. Shame.So what happened to Conservative miniority government supported by Liberals?
Sure, I get it, but seeing that you quoted me and Antonine and didn't comment Antonine's post it kinda looks as is you were comparing his and mine posts.
((And how am I contradictory? I think that Labour victory in this election would be good for the story, but that doesn't mean that I agree with Labour policies - on the contrary, I disagree with them, although I have to admit that some of them don't sound bad for me. And this, again, doesn't mean that in the next election I will be still thinking that Labour will be best for the story.))
Again, evidence that several Liberals do not favor any accord with Labour. Shame.
This is presuming, of course, that we can come up with a suitable programme for government.
Personally I would recommend:
No, all industries should be treated on a case by case basis. It would be sheer idiocy to privatise any industry which provides an essential service, such as British Rail, if it were making a loss, just because it were making a loss. Fine, but only if there's agreement that loss-making, non-essential service providing industries are definitely to be privatised either by being sold off or mutualised.
That's out of Britain's hands. A referendum on whether or not we should seek entry into the EEC might be better In that case we should seek entry and, if entry is possible, then we should hold a referendum on whether we should join.
No. Yes. Income tax cuts will help workers struggling with the cost of living due to wage restraint and price inflation. Furthermore, some form of Land Value Tax has to be implemented as it's a key Liberal policy - that's why I proposed using it to replace business rates. If you don't like that form of it then come up with an alternative.
Fair arbitration for workers sounds like a Labour policy! Odd then that I have consistently argued for it while Labour has said nothing
This might be needed urgently in light of current circumstances. Agreed
Definitely not. The further decentralisation of power is a crucial Liberal policy. You can't expect us to go into coalition without concessions of some sort.
No, those are decided by Tommy and we shouldn't seek to throttle him. Fair enough.
not included in the programme for government same as above, that sort of thing is out of our hands Again, fair enough.