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So you don't know? :eek:

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If Labour is radical enough in there platform this election and the commies still hold no hope of getting seats, I shall consider voting Labour especially if its Labour or eurocoms who are basically labour.

No vote for communist! The Democratic Socialist and Social Democrats are revisionist and have gone away from basic Marxist tenets! They are just capitalists painted in red, amd burgoise disguised as working class. The true way to liberty and equality is through the true - oppressionist - communism; stalinism and maoism.

Well. Mac got more done than was expected. I was expecting him to twiddle his thumbs while Kuwait was ransacked, argue with the liberals about whether we should deploy troops to the Commonwealth allies, get sick and resign to elections XD Despite the Ba'athists disappointingly remaining in power, I can't even say he did a bad job. In view of the terrible division in Parliament, I can see why he's "Super" Mac :p
We're shaping up for an enormous Left-Right slugfest, so terribly exciting!
(With Lib-Lab in an electoral pact, does this mean with some measure of success they'll unite? We'd be down to 3 relatively powerful parties at that point; one each for radical thought on both extreme ends, and one for liberal centrism. Assuming no party springs to the right of Conservative; unlikely, i'd think)

I have to acree with you on this. Who do you use to vote for/what's your voting history?

Pah! We stopped at Kuwait! We should have driven those dang Commie Iraqis down and replace it with a free, civilised, pro-British, and repressive absolute monarchy!

Ironically I looked up this baath socialism. Guess what,it is not socialism at all. They are just a nationalistic bunch who want class collaboration. Their ideology is much closer to fascism than socialism, very little resemble that in fact. The reason they use "socialism" is only to show that they are modernizing. So they are not socialists. But even if they were, I think it was right of us to stop when we drive them out of Kuwait. We were only supposed to protect our allies, not occupy Iraq.

Thank you in real life for voting that way and weakening the socialist vote. Us capitalists appreciate it. Please continue and tell all your comrades to do likewise.

Hush! Don't reveal that to them :s

I know exactly the solution to all of our problems. Take all of our unwanted Irishmen, Welshmen and Liverpoolers and pressgang them into the Navy in which they rule the waves.

For some reason I think it is partly directed at me?
 
Okay I'm getting more and more confused; you are Norwegian/Scouse/Austrian/Jewish girl? :p
Where does the roleplay begin and end? :D

I'd hazard that she's a Norwegian, Jewish girl by birth, who's Scouse by choice and Austrian in spirit. :D
 
Okay I'm getting more and more confused; you are Norwegian/Scouse/Austrian/Jewish girl? :p
Where does the roleplay begin and end? :D

Irl Norwegian. Blood and Iron: Norwegian-Austrian. Westminister system: Scouse. As simple as that :D

I'd hazard that she's a Norwegian, Jewish girl by birth, who's Scouse by choice and Austrian in spirit. :D

Yes I am trans ethnicity. Check you cis-ethnicity priveledge!
 
The Election of 1964

Following the collapsed of the fragile centrist government produced by the previous years’ general election, Britain prepared to go to the polls once more with the political landscape growing far more polarised.

Conservative Party


Political Position: Right

Ideology: Conservatism, Traditionalism, Imperialism, Monetarism

Description:

The Conservative Party of 1964 is a very different beast to the One Nationist dominated party of just a few years before. After the Rightwing opposition began to coalesce into a single grouping in the early 1960s they were finally able to capture control over the party leadership following Macmillan’s health related resignation in early 1964 on the crest of a grand wave of popular support. However, unlike the One Nationists, Tory Rightists were viewed as an unacceptable government by the Liberals causing the swift collapse of the short lived Conservative minority government.

Party Leader: Enoch Powell

Having served in the cabinet during the 1950s and then as Home Secretary during Macmillan’s brief government, Powell possessed a not unimpressive level of governmental experience – his success in introducing the Commonwealth Immigration Act being his greatest ministerial triumph. Having proved a unifying force on the Right, the man who finally brought an end to the Conservative-National Liberal split seems a strong candidate to rise to the role of Prime Minister.

Foreign Policy:

Whilst Britain must remain a part of the NATO alliance and play her crucial role in the joint defence of the free world, we must refuse to ever become a lapdog of American influence. Britain must retain an independent foreign policy with independent aims – separate from those of Washington and indeed of Western Europe.

We must preserve British influence internationally – deploying force where need be to defend our interests and allies. In South-East Asia British forces should be employed in Australia and Malaysia, but we must continue to avoid becoming involved in America’s war in Indonesia.

We shall oppose any future efforts to bring the United Kingdom into the EEC. Our economic and political independence cannot be compromised.

Britain shall act swiftly and vigorously to combat the advance of Communism or other Anti-British in her sphere of influence.

Britain should seek closer integration with nations of the Commonwealth.

Imperial Policy:

The Commonwealth of Nations must be drastically reorganised. All states that repudiate the British monarchy must be removed from direct affiliation with the organisation and all states that stand against friendship and a unity of interests with the United Kingdom must be removed.

All remaining states should thereafter seek the closest possible economic and political integration as we seek to form a block of nations capable of retaining economic prosperity and political power internationally for all participants.

The settler populations of East and South-Central Africa cannot and will not be abandoned by any righteous British government. Instead we must look to reorganise British rule in these regions to ensure that our influence shall remain in perpetuity and the settler communities are never threatened.

The abandonment of South Africa and the attempts to interfere in the internal politics of another Commonwealth member by the Grimond administration, not to mention the complicity of Macmillan in this calamity, are proof of the inadequacy of the present political elite. Let us welcome South Africa back to the fold and not be so high and mighty as to denounce the internal political practises of our allies.

The dissolution of the British Empire ends now!

Domestic Policy:

Today Britain is declining in relation to the rest of Europe – economically, socially, and politically. A disunited, sluggish and degraded nation cannot flourish. Drastic action is needed!

We must build upon the good work of the previous administration and introduced further controls on immigration. As the cultural makeup our nation changes and wages are supressed ethnic tensions have arisen in parts of the country, particularly in the capital, that threaten the unity of our nation. We must move quickly to ensure that the existing immigrant communities in our country are integrated into the culture of the majority population lest a series of separate communities emerge alien and hostile to one another. Henceforth a much steadier stream of immigrants shall allow our nation to slowly and gradually assimilate new arrivals without undue pressure on wages and social tensions.

The devolution of power to Scotland and Wales is an anti-democratic abomination that threatens the integral unity of the United Kingdom. We must move to dissolve these assemblies.

We must ensure that the military is given ample funds to modernise our military and ensure that the British armed forces remain peerless. Without the proper investment Britain shall be unable to remain a world power into the next decade.

Today a full 1/5 of the British economy lies under state control. The Conservative Party once stood for freedom of the market but today takes no issue with these present circumstances and presents the same ineffective economic solutions to our present stagnation as the Liberals, Labour and indeed the Communists. We must seek to privatise all those sectors of the economy that would be more efficient out of state hands. At the same time we must move away from the prevailing Keynesian economic dogmas and adopt a more flexible monetarist approach that shall allow for a return to prosperity and the flourishing of the British economy. Our nation was once the economic hub of the entire world left behind after years of mismanagement it is time for us to reclaim our rightful position!

We must restore Britain’s pride!

Liberal Party


The Liberal Party has an Electoral Pact with the Labour Party

Political Position: Centre

Ideology: Liberalism, Social Liberalism, (Social Democracy – minority viewpoint)

Description:

In the aftermath of the 1963 election the Grimondite ‘Yellow’ leadership of the Liberal Party successfully fended off the efforts of the Orange faction to radically reform the party, with the leadership refusing to budge from its centrist political position. However, the dissolution of the National Liberals into the Conservative Party forced the leadership into accepting one of the Orange Liberals’ fundamental aims – forming an electoral alliance with Labour.

Party Leader: Jo Grimond

Now coming up to the ten year anniversary of his taking of the Liberal leadership, Grimond was a veteran politician who had been involved in government, either by supporting Conservative minority administrations or controlling parliament outright, throughout that period. More politically experienced than any other party leader, Grimond was desperate to lead the progressive Centre and Left to victory over a dangerously unified Right.

Foreign Policy:

The crisis in Cuba just a year ago has provided a chastening reminder of the terrifying world in which we live. For a few terrible days we stood upon the brink of nuclear oblivion as a failure of powers possessing these terribly destructive weapons to negotiate and compromise threatened us all. Now, more than ever, Britain and the world need the United Nations to stand forward as a bastion of international law, of arbitration, negotiation and compromise. Britain must push tirelessly for this international body to be involved in all future disputes if we are to continue to live in a peaceful world.

The Liberal Party shall, none the less, continue to stand beside our allies in the free world against any Soviet efforts to expand their sphere of influence and spread their totalitarian ideology around the world. But we must seek to do so peacefully and through negotiation rather than using our military might.

The Liberal Party advocates the strengthening of political and economic ties between Britain and the independent nations of the Commonwealth as we seek to bring the peoples who once constituted the British Empire closer together. Likewise we hope to remain closely tied to the United States whilst also strengthening cooperation with the continent. The unfortunate decision of the French President to stand against British membership of the EEC should not dissuade us from persisting in our desire for membership of the Common Market.

Imperial Policy:

The last colonies under direct or indirect colonial rule must be turned over to majority rule under democratic governments by the end of the 1960s. However, let us encourage all newly independent states to remain without the structures of the Commonwealth and encourage the mutually beneficial integration of all constituent members. No longer will Britain hold down a multitude of peoples against their will – yet the projection of British power internationally, and the preservation of our economic interests across the world, shall remain.

Domestic Policy:

The Liberal Party shall defend all existing nationalised industries, even as it refuses to countenance the nationalisation of further firms. Likewise, we shall not falter in our defence of all aspects of the welfare state that provide the population with essential services and a fairer society.

The Liberal Party continues to commit itself to promoting greater autonomy for the localities – calling for regional assemblies across England to complement those in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland as well as greater powers for local governments – and sensible economic policy aimed at strong growth and low unemployment. Likewise, the Liberal Party continues to support greater levels of investment in rural communities and encourages people to resettle in the countryside from crowded urban sprawls.

We call for the expansion of liberty through British society through the legalisation of abortion and the abolition of capital punishment.

The Liberal Party shall continue to modernise the military whilst carrying out minor cuts to defence spending. Although Britain must remain a world power, her enormous and outdated military is simply too expensive and too unwieldy. The Liberal Party supports a slightly smaller, but much more modern military force.

Liberals support openness, freedom and democracy at all levels of society and shall ensure that Britain continues to evolve its democratic institutions in the most transparent and fair manner possible.

Communist Party of Great Britain (Eurocommunist)
- Leadership Faction


Political Position: Left

Ideology: Communism, Eurocommunism, Democratic Socialism

Description:

In 1963 and then again in 1964 the Communist Party offered its support to a ‘broad left’ Liberal government, on both occasions the Liberals refused to even countenance cooperation. A decade before, in their last major effort to escape the wilderness of political isolation they had been cast into after 1948, their association with Labour had all but destroyed the party and ended their alliance once and for all. It was clear, that many in Britain viewed the Communist Party as a poisonous force. Yet, the leadership believed that through strident modernisation of the party they could bring Communism out from the cold and make it an integral part of the British Left. Taking inspiration from the shifting politics of the mighty Italian Communist Party, the leadership of the CPGB hoped to distance itself from the Soviet Union and bring an end to Moscow’s traditional influence over party policy once and for all whilst also pursuing a moderate domestic policy committed to a pursuit of socialism by lawful, parliamentary, means.

Party Leader: John Gollan

Faction Leader: John Gollan

Having taken over the sole leadership of the Party following a brief period of collective leadership that followed Harry Pollitt’s retirement in 1956, Gollan had seen Communist support remain impressively resistant – in spite of growing dissatisfaction with the Soviet Union and the failure of his efforts to bring the party out from its cold political isolation. Inspired by the reforms being made by the leaders of the Italian Party, Gollan excitedly sought to tackle British Communism’s greatest issues head on.

Foreign Policy:

The Communist Party of Great Britain is a partisan of peace in a world dominated by war hawks.

British Communists oppose all foreign imperialist wars, including those waged by our own country, and will work with any and all organisations that share our aims.

We propose that the NATO alliance is abandoned immediately and Britain assume a position of neutrality. We must retain fraternal relations with the nations of Western Europe and the Commonwealth; however we cannot afford to be tied to an alliance that would lead us into nuclear war.

In line with our opposition to war, the Communist Party demands the disarmament of Britain’s nuclear arsenal and calls for all other powers possessing nuclear weapons to disarm and prevent their proliferation any further. Humanity must not be placed in a position where it can destroy itself in nuclear fire.

No more wars!

Imperial Policy:

The Communist Party calls for Britain to withdraw from its remaining colonial possessions as soon as is possible – all the while looking to establish democratic governments. Where necessary, we will provide support in favour of majority rule where minority settler populations resist our efforts.

Domestic Policy:

The Communist Party of Great Britain shall stand shoulder to shoulder with any groups willing to stand in defence of all the gains made by the British working class in the years since the War. We shall bitterly dispute any efforts to privatise publically owned industries, and shall not give an inch to those who would roll back the welfare state.

We hope to support the nationalisation of wider parts of British industry and promote a greater role for workers in the management of industry. We encourage major investment in the improvement of housing, and economic infrastructure across the country with a focus on the most deprived areas. We also hope to see wages in both the public and private sectors continue to rise as the living conditions of British citizens are improved.

The Communist Party demands substantial cuts to military spending – which remains horrifyingly bloated – and the end of conscription in this country. With reduced military spending, substantial funds will be made free for productive investment in our nation.

The Communist Party supports the legalisation of abortion and the abolition of capital punishment.

British Communists fight for Socialism and Democracy!


Communist Party of Great Britain (Stalinist)
- Opposition Faction


Political Position: Far Left

Ideology: Communism, Stalinism, Marxism-Leninism, Anti-Revisionism


Description:

The left wing opposition in the Communist Party in fact consisted of two main trends – ‘Tankies’ who unconditionally supported the Soviet Union, and more radical ‘Anti-Revisionists’ who looked to Mao’s China with both tendencies supporting a more militant line domestically than the moderate party leadership. Both groups looked back on the Stalin era as an idealised period of Communist militancy – making heroes of Pollitt and Stalin in contrast to the present party leaders.

Party Leader: John Gollan

Faction Leader: Reg Birch

Birch first joined the party in 1938, rising to become one of the leaders of the party in the aftermath of Pollitt’s resignation and the crisis of 1956 having been favoured due to his willingness to stand by the Soviet invasion of Hungary. Rising through the ranks of the Amalgamated Engineering Union, one of the country’s key blue collar trade unions, Birch distanced himself from parliamentary action in favour of his union work until 1963 when he finally entered parliament. Having favoured the Chinese in the Sino-Soviet split of the early 1960s, Birch was the ideal figure to lead a left wing opposition within the Communist Party.

Foreign Policy:

Britain must immediately extricate itself from the NATO alliance and pursue close relations with the Socialist nations. Whilst we oppose entering into an alliance with the Soviet Union, we advocate fraternal relations with the Eastern Block and especially China in opposition to American Imperialism.

Britain shall not allow itself to be dominated by either super power, but support an independent foreign policy.

Imperial Policy:

Britain must withdraw immediately from all remaining colonial possessions and make efforts to support revolutionary, socialist, development where ever she can. Attempts by the white minority to resist the birth of democracy in Africa shall not be tolerated by Britain – we will provide all necessary assistance to the majority population in resisting their oppressors.

British Communists must stand against the continued colonial subjugation of Ulster. We advocate the immediate withdrawal of Britain from Northern Ireland and the unification of the country under a single Irish Republic.

Domestic Policy:

British Communists stand against class collaboration and any alliance with the bourgeois Liberal Party or the corrupted Labour Party. Socialism cannot be won through parliamentary intrigues and alliances; it is won by the struggle of the masses! The ruling class in this country will not be brought down by the ballot box.

We advocate the intensification of the class struggle in this country through the propagation of genuine, revolutionary, Marxism-Leninism and unconditional support for workers in all struggles. As the level of class struggle rises, the true Communists in this country shall always act as leaders – showing the way forward to the next stage of the struggle, and ultimately, towards revolution!

By arming the workers with the Five Classics of Marx-Engels-Lenin-Stalin-Mao, whose genuine revolutionary Marxism-Leninism is anathema to the revisionist leadership of our party and their reformist agenda, the British working class cannot be defeated! The class struggle continues!

Labour Party


The Labour Party has an Electoral Pact with the Liberal Party

Political Position: Centre-Left


Ideology: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism

Description:

After a decade of steep decline, the Labour Party actually gained votes and seats for the first time since the 1940s in 1963. Whilst still a shadow of its former self, unable to compete with the Liberals for predominance on the Left or even establish itself as the country’s largest socialist organisation as the CPGB remained impressively strong, the first signs of a revival had brought the alien feeling of optimism back to the party. The formation of an electoral pact with the Liberals just weeks before the country’s latest election left many extremely hopeful that the Labour Party’s revival might continue.

Party Leader: Hugh Gaitskell

Hugh Gaitskell had been forced to endure a tortuous road to the leadership of the Labour Party. First elected in 1945 he sided with the Right during the Crisis of 1950, continuing to oppose Nye Bevan’s radical leadership through the early 1950s. After the collapse of the Labour vote in 1954 it was his ultimatum that forced Bevan into a new leadership contest – which saw both the party leader and Gaitskell himself lose out to Harold Wilson. As Wilson failed to improve upon the 1954 result in 1958, Gaitskell entered into an awkward joint leadership before becoming sole leader in the aftermath of the 1963 election. Taking Labour on a moderate path, and into alliance with the Liberals, Gaitskell was hopeful that the Centre and Left would triumph over the radicalised Right and that Labour would continue to rebuild itself after the tortuous 1950s.

Foreign Policy:

Above all else, Britain must be an ally of democracy and freedom around the world. For better or for worse, the only way to achieve that goal, to oppose the spread of Soviet Totalitarianism around the world, is for Britain to accept its role as a member of the NATO alliance. Britain stands united with the free world.

We must refuse to allow British servicemen to become involved in wars on foreign shores that are not our own. However we will move to protect the members of the British Commonwealth from subversion. Should any Commonwealth member request aid we shall deploy military advisors as well as provide arms and aid in combatting anti-democratic subversion. This is especially important for Malaysia and Australia who presently face conflict with Communist guerrilla armies in New Guinea and Borneo.

However, Britain must refuse to involve itself in conflicts that are not her own – we will not send forces to Indonesia but will diplomatically support the country’s legal government.

Labour opposes future attempts to propose British entry into the EEC unless the terms of membership are altered in such a way that British economic independence is not undermined.

The Labour Party supports open and friendly relations with all nations in the free world and will work closely with newly independent democracies, especially those in the Commonwealth, to ensure mutually beneficial development.

Imperial Policy:

The Labour Party supports the independence of all remaining colonial possessions in which the majority of the population desire it. Britain must act to ensure that majority rule is introduced in all of her former possessions.

We wish to see the Commonwealth become a body of economic and political cooperation between free peoples around the world. It must be used to encourage democracy and support the economic development of all its members.

Domestic Policy:

Labour stands alongside our Liberal allies against those who would destroy all the gains made by the British labour movement since the war. We shall not condone the privatisation of publically owned industries nor any attacks upon the welfare state created to serve the poorest in our society and build a more equitable nation. Although the Labour Party supports the public ownership of industry, we shall not pursue further nationalisations except in circumstances in which it is necessary to avoid monopolies, or protect key industries from collapse.

Labour supports social justice and aims to provide investments for the expansion of existing industries, investments in infrastructure, drastic investment in the dire quality of housing in this country, an end to the artificial suppression of wage rises – especially in the public sector.

Labour advocates major cuts to defence spending with outdated equipment phased out entirely. We advocate a smaller, less costly, more modern and professional army that will allow Britain to continue to play her necessary role as a part of the NATO alliance but will not see our nation weighed down by the expenditure. The Labour Party would therefore also bring an end to conscription entirely and move towards a professional army.

Labour supports the legalisation of abortion and the abolition of capital punishment.

For social justice, liberty and prosperity – vote Labour!




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Another year, another election. This time there are two clear blocks contending for power: the Tories and the Lib-Lab Alliance whilst the Communist 3rd force have a factional struggle meaning that there are interesting things going on across this election. Will be especially interesting to see if Communist voters want to take a radical turn that will perpetuate their isolation, or wish to come into the fold.
 
An Election in 1963 and one in 1964?
One more government like the previous one and I wager me and Caesaropope dom Contravarius will have succeeded!
Everyon! Vote for the Conservatives and the Liberals! Make thins as non - radical as possible!
 
I am glad to see the Lib-Lab pact that has emerged, and look forward to what will hopefully be a prosperous election for both parties. My vote will once again go to the Liberal Party – whom I can now fully support having seen the motion on PR defeated.
 
sigh...
The Tories are not for really free markets, nor they do fully support freedom of the individual.
Is there any really pro-immigration party? Classical liberal party that supports free trade and free markets?
Liberty of the individual?

I cannot support Powell.
I have always voted for the smallest evil.
How the parties might change their policies in the future is yet unknown, but as it is I must cast my vote in a way that causes the least loss of utility to myself, choosing the least disgusting choice from the said sad list represented above;

I vote for the Liberals

*cries in the corner*
 
sigh...
The Tories are not for really free markets, nor they do fully support freedom of the individual.
Is there any really pro-immigration party? Classical liberal party that supports free trade and free markets?
Liberty of the individual?

I cannot support Powell.
I have always voted for the smallest evil.
How the parties might change their policies in the future is yet unknown, but as it is I must cast my vote in a way that causes the least loss of utility to myself, choosing the least disgusting choice from the said sad list represented above;

I vote for the Liberals

*cries in the corner*
What In God's Name happened to you Enewald?
Dear God, I am scared at the prospect of these elections now :p
Also, poll time
Total Votes : 2
Votes:
Liberals: 2
Result: Oh my God Liberal Majority we are doomed :p
 
Despite some reservations, the combined polices of the Liberals and Labour suit me nicely -Labour
 
sigh...
The Tories are not for really free markets, nor they do fully support freedom of the individual.
Is there any really pro-immigration party? Classical liberal party that supports free trade and free markets?
Liberty of the individual?

I cannot support Powell.
I have always voted for the smallest evil.
How the parties might change their policies in the future is yet unknown, but as it is I must cast my vote in a way that causes the least loss of utility to myself, choosing the least disgusting choice from the said sad list represented above;

I vote for the Liberals

*cries in the corner*

There there. It's not so bad over here...

I will admit, I did see this coming. :p
 
An Election in 1963 and one in 1964?
One more government like the previous one and I wager me and Caesaropope dom Contravarius will have succeeded!
Nothing can stop our Unholy Alliance, Vote Switcher. For terror and flames, onwards!

*cries in the corner*
In any case we have succeeded in making the anarho-cannibal cry, that's an achievement in it's own right.
 
In any case we have succeeded making the anarho-cannibal cry, that's an achievement in it's own right.
And made him vote the liberals. Next thing you know Tanzhang votes for the Communists in every election from now on :p
 
Well, LibLab electoral pact basically means Liberal victory, so this time I will wait and see how the situation will develop. I'm actually thinking about voting for Labour this time.
Seriously though, Tommy, why have you decided to give Liberals electoral pact with Labour? Conservative Party was never able to win the elections on their own - merger with NatLibs could give Tories a chance to achieve majority at least once. I would be perfectly OK with electoral pact in the next elections as a result of Tory victory (which even with the merger would be hard), but such thing now is just trolling the conservative supporters. Shame on you, sir.
 
Tories Rule Brittania!
 
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