It'd make voting for them a hell of a lot easier. Might even see the Tories cooperate with them, too.
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The Labour vote might change the electoral outcome. The NF vote probably won't.
Interestingly, the BNP was born out of an internal conflict with the National Front between those who wanted to moderate (and formed the BNP) and hardliners. Definitely a possible factional conflict - but not for a while yet.
To paraphrase the words of a party activist at the 1986 Eastbourne Liberal Party conference speaking in regards to the recently held membership vote in favour of a conference resolution supporting unilateral nuclear disarmament: "[expletive pertaining to sexual intercourse] Antonine"
You know what needs to be done; vote Labour!
Well if the NF get a flow from the moderate parties, like Labour and Liberal, they might understand they should perhaps tone down a little but to gain appeal to the working class and liberal elite. So you should vote for them if you want to manipultate them
I would of course want you to vote for a democratic party, but hey whatever floats your boat.
((You do always have to come prancing in with REAL FACTS, don't you? Do you know how hard it is to deceive people into voting for these godforsaken idiots like this?))
Ah, a shame. Was hoping to strive to eliminate the fringe votes, which create these hung parliaments. Oh well, I suppose etranger01 makes a valid point. Since Labour needs all the votes it can get, while the National Front needs only one to rise above 15% for a while, I think I've made up my mind.
Labour shall retain its member for Southshields. My apologies to Contravarius!
To paraphrase the words of a party activist at the 1986 Eastbourne Liberal Party conference speaking in regards to the recently held membership vote in favour of a conference resolution supporting unilateral nuclear disarmament: "[expletive pertaining to sexual intercourse] Antonine"
You manage to look into the future?
**Gets a big grin all over her face**
And btw, I think it is quite interesting that the Keynesian policies in USA and rest of Europe haven't managed to reduce unemployment, but it is at the same levels or even rising. While here in UK it saw a reduction. Also it should be noted that the female workforce have more than doubled now since the 60's, which might contribute to the high unemployment. As most females were housewifes in the 60's, while they started to go into the working market now.
So obviously quasi-Friedmanism work better than Keynesianism
It is sadly, enough to refrain you from doing real honest politics under these conditions
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I'm not sure if Tommy takes into account where members have defected from. I'm hoping, much as I have for the Liberals now, that an electoral defeat will see a speedier reformation of the party. It worked well for the other parties in this IAAR in the past.Well if the NF get a flow from the moderate parties, like Labour and Liberal, they might understand they should perhaps tone down a little but to gain appeal to the working class and liberal elite. So you should vote for them if you want to manipultate them
You manage to look into the future?
Yes, but I only do it to post pithy unwieldy comments about Britain's other conservative party.
Should be noted that the Liberal Party have become more free market orientated and been greatly influenced by Antonine.
Yes, but I only do it to post pithy unwieldy comments about Britain's other conservative party.
Well I still don't get it
Yet, as I've argued before, the Liberals (their leadership, at least) remain fairly isolationist with their dogged insistence upon having things their way and only their way, otherwise they won't play nice with the other parties. Again, fringe votes I'd like to see returned to Parliament, so that workable governments can be made instead of a bunch of parties yelling at each other, unable and unwilling to compromise.
Well I still don't get it
Basically the Liberal voters are making a protest against Antonine's overbearing influence by voting for the Orangists. In other words, I believe some people are voting for Jenkins to spite Antonine and his policies.
But apperantly they would support a miniority Tory government? And a Labour one?
Ah I see. Intereting to see who is behind 2/3 of the votes to Yellowites :laugh: Oh yes, I have influence in the Yellow faction.
Under duress of having no other workable government. And I wouldn't be surprised at all if the spirit of Grimond made the Liberals hold Parliament hostage and coerce said parties into accepting the EEC or PR against their will.
Well it would be difficult for us to force through PR ((just look at the IRL Lib-Lab cooperation where Labour basically screwed them over xD )), but we might have a chance getting through an EEC refferendum. Hopefully we'll get that through at least!
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