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DensleyBlair

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Uhm, 60 votes in total, 10 for Nat Libs, means every sixth seat goes to them?
1/6 * 640 should be 106 + 2/3 ?

They might not have benefitted as much as they could have in another system, true. Last time I checked,mthough, 85 was considerably more than, say, 11, so why not look at the positives instead of trying to get everything fixed so the vote goes your way? :p
 

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Actually wait, Enewald would be correct, wouldn't he? 16% of the seats?
 

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A quick look would suggest so, which would give the NatLibs 105 seats, would it not?

104.

Actually, results under PR:

Labour: 177 seats
Conservatives: 146 seats
Communists: 115 seats
National Liberals: 104 seats
Liberals: 83 seats
NI: 13

If you round up, then the NLs would probably get one of the two extra seats.
 

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You bloody commies and socialists plotting to turn the once proud British Empire into a "Workers' Paradise" and trying to end our colonial rule. Disgusting.
 

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Bugger. Pressed delete instead of edit (and only God knows how...). I make 104.5209, (627*0.1667) which would round up, no? Or do we take the seat and give it to an Independent?
 

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Bugger. Pressed delete instead of edit (and only God knows how...). I make 104.5209, (627*0.1667) which would round up, no? Or do we take the seat and give it to an Independent?

Yeah, I was going on 16.66%, but if you want to round that up to 16.67 then that would be fair.
 

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627 * 1/6 is 104.5, which is still higher than your 'be happy with 85 seats' ruling. ;)

Uh, Densley voted for the real Liberal party, and they would do far better under PR than the apostates. ;)
 

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Hang on; isn't the confusion because we're calculating percentages of 60 rather than the weighted total of 73? Everything checks out then for me.
 

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Hang on; isn't the confusion because we're calculating percentages of 60 rather than the weighted total of 73? Everything checks out then for me.

But the weighted total wouldn't exist under PR, that's Enewald's argument.
 

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But the weighted total wouldn't exist under PR, that's Enewald's argument.

For some reason, I'd been under the impression that there was an actual discrepancy with the figures. In my foolishness, I had thought the PR debate dead and buried. :)

And yes, you National "Liberals" can hardly complain when our vote share was cleft in twain! As I say, be happy with 85 seats and stop trying to weasel your way into more. :p
 

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I have to say that as much as I would like PR in real life, the AAR is much more exiting under FPTP! :)
 

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I have to say that as much as I would like PR in real life, the AAR is much more exiting under FPTP! :)

Agreed! I'm very much liking the "no vote changing" rule as well. It makes one consider one's vote more carefully, I find. (Though, having said that, I'm not planning on deviating much from the precedent I've set. :p)
 

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Agreed! I'm very much liking the "no vote changing" rule as well. It makes one consider one's vote more carefully, I find.

It was bad enough when people did it in LTRCT but this AAR would be utterly ruined if people could change their votes on a whim and it's a damned good thing that Tommy had the foresight to ban it.

(Though, having said that, I'm not planning on deviating much from the precedent I've set. :p)

Give it another forty years. ;)
 

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The Election of 1945

The 1945 election marked a decisive moment in British political history. The Right would suffer one of the worst electoral disasters in its history whilst the victorious government was far more radical than any prior government since the creation of Great Britain. Moreover, the social composition of Parliament was noticeably altered as for the first time a substantial number of working class MPs were returned, with the Communists especially, but to a lesser extent Labour as well, seeing candidates elected from social backgrounds very different to the traditional Member of Parliament.


The ground breaking 1945 election saw Britain elect a so called ‘rainbow parliament’ as the smaller parties – the Communists, National Liberals and Liberals – all made great strides at the polls at the expense of the larger Conservative and Labour parties. Despite losing more than 10% of the vote the Labour Party was the greatest victor of the election – falling only narrowly short of securing a majority in its own right. The Conservatives, whose admittedly dreadful electoral performance saw them lose a tremendous number of seats but secure a share of the vote only 5% behind Labour scarcely hung on to their status as the leading opposition to the Left. In constituencies in which the five main parties, and sometimes independents as well, were active and strong it was possible for MPs to be elected with remarkably small shares of the overall vote – this tendency greatly benefitting Labour who claimed dozens of seats in such circumstances and often by very tight margins.


The election had produced a colossal majority for the Left. Denied a majority, Labour quickly moved to negotiate alliances with the Communists and Liberals with all three parties possessing a more or less shared vision of Britain’s future. With the Communists agreeing to enter a Labour led Popular Front government unquestionably the Liberals were rather more divided – but the prospect of allowing the Labour Left and the Communists to dominate a government without their inclusion was enough to convince them to enter into the coalition. Britain had followed the general European pattern in electing a Popular Front government committed to deep reforms and a more egalitarian future.


With the Popular Front amassing a remarkable majority of almost 100 seats and its share of the popular vote close to 60% its stability and democratic legitimacy appeared unquestionable. With the war in Asia still not yet over, Britain new government, filled with hope and optimism, prepared for the construction of the ‘New Jerusalem’ at home and international peace abroad.

The election had been a humiliation for the Conservative Party, and its prestigious wartime leader, Winston Churchill, came under heavy pressure from his own party to retire and resign the leadership to a younger man – Anthony Eden – who might be able to rebuild the party. With few willing to throw the first stone against the almost universally respected former Prime Minister, Churchill bullishly refused to step down, promising to lead the opposition to victory in the next election and save Britain and its Empire from falling into a socialistic decline.
 

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