Which just goes to show that you're a Liberal on the inside.
Well, I'm hardly a socialist.
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Well, I'm hardly a socialist.
According to my latest google search, 'enewaldism' is now a thing.
WHAT HAVE YOU CREATED YOU FOOLS
And they say the readers do not have an impact upon the AARs...
Why did you search for it?
Very well said. Thought "convincing" rhetorics are just as useless and descpicable in the sense that they are "useful votes" rhetorics with a twist. Overall this whole AAR has a certain persona in it, and it's kinda really ugly.
Ceterum censeo Britannia esse delendam
Oh why do you say so? I voted Tory to signalize that it need change. Also as an reaction to the worrying trend of Liberals going over to Labour. But if that is the case, that is sad, as I have then sold my soul to the devil when I could get great things from the Liberals
Exactly. You and Enewald staying on board with the Liberals, plus Grimond getting into bed with the monetarists would be the ideal environment for the FDP virus to infect the weakened Liberal host. Antonine is a lone individual with nowhere else to go: he would have been isolated by the free-marketeer faction completely, and if you're stupid enough to vote Liberal when it's led by an autocrat like Grimond, you're stupid enough (some might say loyal) to vote for a Liberal leader similar in views to Enewald or yourself.
Frankly though, I'm rather glad that you and Enewald decided to vote Tory.
If you genuinely believe in that manifesto and those policies, then you believe in literally nothing. I'm not calling the Liberal manifesto bland and conservative for nothing, I'm calling it that because that's what it is.
Yes you are and no we're not, and you lot are just too naive to see that. Enjoy your Tory peerages.
Exactly. You and Enewald staying on board with the Liberals, plus Grimond getting into bed with the monetarists would be the ideal environment for the FDP virus to infect the weakened Liberal host. Antonine is a lone individual with nowhere else to go: he would have been isolated by the free-marketeer faction completely, and if you're stupid enough to vote Liberal when it's led by an autocrat like Grimond, you're stupid enough (some might say loyal) to vote for a Liberal leader similar in views to Enewald or yourself.
Frankly though, I'm rather glad that you and Enewald decided to vote Tory.
Nah doubt it would happen. And I believe most would agree with Antonine in his socialist fantasies, or be opposed to the more free market approach. All this is evident with for example orange liberals or the anti free market people in the Liberal party.
How is EFTA doing? Did we enter it?
Please do vote according to your beliefs. However, do realize that voting Liberal is supporting the Tory majority, as the Liberals are much more likely to support a Tory government (as Tommy has confirmed) than a Labour one, especially after how unceremoniously they ejected Labour from the last government. To think otherwise is to delude oneself. Furthermore, it's common sense that voting Liberal and giving Grimond more votes is not likely to see him removed. After all, why remove a controversial leader if he manages to get votes? It's likely why Powell is still in power with the Conservatives. But, again, if you really feel the Liberals manifesto and Grimond's actions during the last government are what you like, then yes, vote Liberal. Just realize it likely will mean a Tory government, with the votes being how they lie.
At least it is good with a bug Tory government, which is moderated, to keep the Labour out and be moderated socially by Liberal Party.
Yeah, um... I'm not sure I'd want a guy like Grimond dictating the government's social policy, if his highly intolerant views on dissent in his own allegedly "liberal"party are to be taken into account.
Not to mention, that is assuming the Tories will need the Liberals to form a majority, which seems unlikely.
Yeah, um... I'm not sure I'd want a guy like Grimond dictating the government's social policy, if his highly intolerant views on dissent in his own allegedly "liberal"party are to be taken into account.
It was just the hubris I warned about. I'm sure Labour would have done a similar stunt in a similar situation
This is very likely - remember, Tories never managed to win the majority on their own.
((And what is so wrong about Tory goverment BTW?
1. Historically they won in 1970,
2. Early seventies is the time when recession hit Britain, so winner of this election will probably experience major drop in popularity and won't win the next one, and current main opposition force will be in a great position to take power in 1975,
3. Tories have much more interesting leader and internal situation that OTL Tories in 1970 [if Heath was in charge in this AAR then I would have probably voted Labour],
4. If they win then we will see how Powell will fare and what is the nature of his alliance with NatLibs and One Nationist - I strongly suspect that it may cause severe tensions and it may be a great material for the story,
5. We had two central-left governments almost in the row. Seriously, one would expect that change is needed, especially after the electoral pact from the last elections))
I can't, myself. Why? Because Labour is centre-left, and if they ejected the Liberals, who would they have? The hardline Stalinists? Cross the floor to the Tories? No. The Liberals were, I believe, uniquely positioned for that betrayal.It was just the hubris I warned about. I'm sure Labour would have done a similar stunt in a similar situation
They're in the same position the Liberals were in back during Grimond's first stint as Prime Minister - they're over 35% and the only other party that is over 25% has no coalition partners. They currently command a majority by themselves, and can add nine seats with the Irish parties.
It was just the hubris I warned about. I'm sure Labour would have done a similar stunt in a similar situation
I think not, given that there was not a single vocal Labourite who pushed for the expulsion of the Orangites nor to an end of the successful Lib-lab pact. I find it incredibly amusing to hear Liberals continuing to speak of the virtues of coalition government in spite of their own party's recent and successful attempts to sabotage it through their implacable opposition towards the late and lamented Lib-Lab Alliance.
Not exact same situation. Similar situation in similar conditions. If they are met it matter little if the party is Liberal, Labour, Tory, nazi or feminist.
But we will probably get some more CPGB votes, which along with Liberal and Labour votes will probably bring Tories under 35%.
You don't think you'll see more glorious Conservative and Unionist votes? There's been at least one person mentioned who is expected to vote Tory but has not done so yet. I mean, the Communist lurkers will likely pop out of the woodworks before long, but I still expect the Tories to make, as usual, a strong showing. They've managed to get 20 votes the past three or so elections.
Yes indeed, this is why I voted Tory to counter the Labour vote. I sold my soul to the devil, but at least I will not let UK. fall under Labour.
I shudder at the the thought of a British equivalent of the Swedish F!...
If I have to lay any blame for Grimond's recent actions I would lay it squarely at the Red Guards within the Liberal Party; demagogues who have encouraged Grimond to act in such a way. We have no such demagogues in the Labour Party because thankfully, Antonine is wedded to the British Liberal Party.
So vindictive against Labour. What grievance do you have against that party to make you, in your own words, 'sell your soul'? Labour has, after all, been as much about social reform as the Liberals, in stark contrast to the party you now stand for. I suppose economics took precedence over social policies for you this election?
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