The Westminster System - A British Interactive AAR

[DensleyBlair]

We need to reform devolution, by which I mean "get rid of it." Oh, and something needs to be done about Northern Ireland.

I can only imagine what would happen to the regional assemblies if the Tories came to power in '63.

"I know you've just been elected and all, but we're actually going to dissolve you. Sorry about that, old chap. Us Tories just hate devolution!"

 

[LordTempest]

((No IRL. Can't remember the name. But one F-16 is much more expensive than a 100 spitfires. Still it is much more comabt effective. Think they calculated that two F-16 alone could win WWII if they had unlimited supply of fuel and arms. It is much more expensive, but each plane, ship, small arms is much more effective. That means the armed forces become smaller but more effective. Just look at the Gulf War. Coalition forces more or less raped the Iraqi forces because of superior technology and units.))

Oh, well that should for the most part be obvious. Nuclear Submarines however don't need to be refuelled as much as diesel-electric ones, which surely is an argument in favour.

I said like the Phantoms That means we should have arms that have the same quality as the anericans, but produced in Britain. Then we will become more reliant on ourselves and not USA and it is good for our local industries. However if our industrial capacity do not follow up, we can buy it from USA and then examine their new production methods and apply it to ourselves. Like we did with ballistic missiles from Germany, or how Germany built their industry - by importing existing technology from us and using it as a basis for futhe development.

Naturally we should aim to do this.

 

[DensleyBlair]

Yes these things and general educational reforms.

Don't get me started on educational reform. You'll need to add a new category to that drinking game of yours!

 

[Antonine]

So what do we still need to reform? Capital punishment? Abortion laws? If we tell Tommy now, he can be sure to include it all in our next manifesto.

Capital Punishment
Abortion
Lords Reform
English Devolution
Land Value Taxation
Establish an Electoral Commission
Extend powers devolved
Attempt European Integration Again (if it fails, pursue Commonwealth Economic Area)
Condemn Iraqi government and Kuwaiti government but defend Kuwait while pressuring them to respect human rights
Make one division available to UN for peacekeeping operations
Modernise railways
Anti-Pollution Measures
Convert some state owned industries into mutuals

 

[Antonine]

Oh, and increase funding for science, technology and engineering research.

 

[DensleyBlair]

Capital Punishment
Abortion
Lords Reform
English Devolution
Land Value Taxation
Establish an Electoral Commission
Extend powers devolved
Attempt European Integration Again (if it fails, pursue Commonwealth Economic Area)
Condemn Iraqi government and Kuwaiti government but defend Kuwait while pressuring them to respect human rights
Make one division available to UN for peacekeeping operations
Modernise railways
Anti-Pollution Measures

Tommy, have you got all of this down?

 

[ThaHoward]

Capital Punishment
Abortion
Lords Reform
English Devolution
Land Value Taxation
Establish an Electoral Commission
Extend powers devolved
Attempt European Integration Again (if it fails, pursue Commonwealth Economic Area)
Condemn Iraqi government and Kuwaiti government but defend Kuwait while pressuring them to respect human rights
Make one division available to UN for peacekeeping operations
Modernise railways
Anti-Pollution Measures
Convert some state owned industries into mutuals

Pollution? What the bloody are ye talking bout? And UN peacekeeping forces, do such a thing exist? Surely the UN must approve that first. And scrap property taxes, and privatize the state owned industries instead. The rest is okay. And similar approach to Iraq as with Egypt during the Suez crisis.

 

[LordTempest]

Capital Punishment
Abortion
Establish an Electoral Commission

Yay!

Lords Reform
English Devolution

Boo!

Extend powers devolved
Attempt European Integration Again
Make one division available to UN for peacekeeping operations

Double boo!

Condemn Iraqi government and Kuwaiti government but defend Kuwait while pressuring them to respect human rights
Modernise railways
pursue Commonwealth Economic Area

Double yay!

 

[Andrzej I]

Ack, the loss of South Africa stings. At least technology allows us to not need Cape Town as we might have in the past...

 

[DensleyBlair]

Pollution? What the bloody are ye talking bout?

You've obviously never heard of of smog.

 

[LordTempest]

Ack, the loss of South Africa stings. At least technology allows us to not need Cape Town as we might have in the past...

I say good riddance to racist rubbish.

 

[Antonine]

But would two married men have the same legal rights as a heterosexual married couple?

Yes. Because the legal rights in question are just given to married couples without specifying that a married couple has to be a man and a woman. OTL it was only in the 1970s that a law was passed to close this legal loophole.

 

[Antonine]

I almost forgot:

Equal Pay Act to criminalise unequal pay between men and women doing equivalent work.

 

[LordTempest]

Yes. Because the legal rights in question are just given to married couples without specifying that a married couple has to be a man and a woman. OTL it was only in the 1970s that a law was passed to close this legal loophole.

Ah Britain, most progressive nation in the universe.

Equal Pay Act to criminalise unequal pay between men and women doing equivalent work.

You'd think the Liberals would have already passed this, given that Sinclair wanted to implement it in 1945!

 

[Antonine]

And UN peacekeeping forces, do such a thing exist? Surely the UN must approve that first.

That's why we'll encourage the UN to intervene to keep the peace in conflict zones and make forces available for such operations should they decide to intervene.

 

[LordTempest]

That's why we'll encourage the UN to intervene to keep the peace in conflict zones and make forces available for such operations should they decide to intervene.

Under any circumstances?

 

[Antonine]

Ah Britain, most progressive nation in the universe.



You'd think the Liberals would have already passed this, given that Sinclair wanted to implement it in 1945!

I'm going to use the excuse that a lot of legislation supported by the Liberals hasn't been able to be implemented yet because they have so much they want to do but have only had one parliament to do it so far.

 

[Antonine]

Under any circumstances?

Under circumstances where it is the liberal and internationalist thing to do so.

Indonesia for example.

 

[ThaHoward]

That's why we'll encourage the UN to intervene to keep the peace in conflict zones and make forces available for such operations should they decide to intervene.

One major issue: USSR can veto everything. Not only are they opposed to democracy and peace, they are also the sworn enemies to the democratic, free and capitalist world. So it will be difficult to send out peacekeeping forces when it will benefit us and not them.

And you mention Indonesia, do you think USSR would like an intervention there? Or in Korea? Of course not, they want to the world to be communist and under their influence. Geopolitica man, that scrap that entire idea.

 

[LordTempest]

One major issue: USSR can veto everything. Not only are they opposed to democracy and peace, they are also the sworn enemies to the democratic, free and capitalist world. So it will be difficult to send out peacekeeping forces when it will benefit us and not them.

And you mention Indonesia, do you think USSR would like an intervention there? Or in Korea? Of course not, they want to the world to be communist and under their influence. Geopolitica man, that scrap that entire idea.

In his defence, we have a veto too.