The Westminster System - A British Interactive AAR

[DensleyBlair]

((Of course. But they won't be treated as a citizen of the United Kingdom. And legally, IIRC, the British Empire was never a legal entity.))

I was never trying to suggest such. And the legality of the Empire is irrelevant. It still exists in some form, and therefore it's perfectly reasonable to suggest that people would consider someone living within its borders a citizen of the British Empire.

 

[LordTempest]

I was never trying to suggest such. And the legality of the Empire is irrelevant. It still exists in some form, and therefore it's perfectly reasonable to suggest that people would consider someone living within its borders a citizen of the British Empire.

After all, what is a MBE for?

 

[ThaHoward]

Let me be blunt. As I have said, if you wish to be an MP who supports gender equality then that is totally fine. If however you wish to start a feminist movement, that is a completely different thing altogether. As I say, Mill was basically a third wave feminist in the late 19th century, so being one in the 1950's is not that ahistorical. Trying to start a third wave feminist movement in either period would however be very ahistorical.

That is the distinction.

And how did it all start? I said I was a feminist and more and more started to say they joined my movement. I hadn't even said I had one. Then I said we could form a Feminist Alliance between the different Feminists. But it is more of a joke, and to let those various feminist (ic ooc) join together in some way. I haven't claimed it to be a major movement. It is not my fault more than one want to join it. If I had claimed it to be a major movement I would have been much more aggreesive talking about it. Nay, they Feminist Alliance is well more of an allaince between the different feminists and more of a thing for fun.

But if you want to ruin the fun for others to prove some sort of a point, in forms of either spamming the pages with a pointless argument ar depriving them of identiyfing as feminists over the political spectrum, be my guest. For what harm is this feminist allaince doing? None at all. We have not made up demands. Not made elections and campaigns on our own. And I have also limited myself to only talk about it if someone else brings it up.

I was never trying to suggest such. And the legality of the Empire is irrelevant. It still exists in some form, and therefore it's perfectly reasonable to suggest that people would consider someone living within its borders a citizen of the British Empire.

Yes that I agree with.

 

[LordTempest]

And how did it all start? I said I was a feminist and more and more started to say they joined my movement. I hadn't even said I had one. Then I said we could form a Feminist Alliance between the different Feminists. But it is more of a joke, and to let those various feminist (ic ooc) join together in some way. I haven't claimed it to be a major movement. It is not my fault more than one want to join it. If I had claimed it to be a major movement I would have been much more aggreesive talking about it. Nay, they Feminist Alliance is well more of an allaince between the different feminists and more of a thing for fun.

We both know that that's absolute crap. You were aiming to start a movement from the very beginning, and compared it to the paper hats more than once.

 

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And how did it all start? I said I was a feminist and more and more started to say they joined my movement. I hadn't even said I had one. Then I said we could form a Feminist Alliance between the different Feminists. But it is more of a joke, and to let those various feminist (ic ooc) join together in some way. I haven't claimed it to be a major movement. It is not my fault more than one want to join it. If I had claimed it to be a major movement I would have been much more aggreesive talking about it. Nay, they Feminist Alliance is well more of an allaince between the different feminists and more of a thing for fun.

Indeed it should serve as a foundation on which to build a wider movement or the nucleus of a lobbying arm.

 

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We both know that that's absolute crap. You were aiming to start a movement from the very beginning, and compared it to the paper hats more than once.

So only Authoritarian movements are allowed? The Paperhats were IIRC also a force that did't directly affect Blood and Iron as an Aar, but one that espouses a legitimate if slightly anachronistic concern is verboten?

 

[LordTempest]

So only Authoritarian movements are allowed? The Paperhats were IIRC also a force that did't directly affect Blood and Iron as an Aar, but one that espouses a legitimate if slightly anachronistic concern is verboten?

Read the rules, NO movements are allowed unless they're Tommy's.

 

[ThaHoward]

We both know that that's absolute crap. You were aiming to start a movement from the very beginning, and compared it to the paper hats more than once.

Okay you certaintly know more about me and my intentions than me And I compared it to the Paperhats once. That was when I first said I was a "Femitarian" to make jokes and parody tumblr. Then I said if the Paperhats should be allowed, then I should atleast be allowed to do so. But haha, if you really think I want to make the Paperhats version 2 be my guest. And if I tried to do it, so effing what? Does it harm you? Don't like it ignore it. And let the 2-3 people who are in it have fun about it. Tommy seem to tolerate it, and it isn't mentioned in any update which I have never expected it to be.

Indeed it should serve as a foundation on which to build a wider movement or the nucleus of a lobbying arm.

No I shall abondon this so Tanzhang won't go all crazy and on a anti-feminist crusade and spoil the fun for the other readers.

 

[Andrzej I]

Even if it was a lie, what harm is there in allowing Ms. Howard her fun? I suppose it a bit ironic, given the initial criticism of me making a Pole. Oh well, still.

 

[LordTempest]

Okay you certaintly know more about me and my intentions than me And I compared it to the Paperhats once. That was when I first said I was a "Femitarian" to make jokes and parody tumblr. Then I said if the Paperhats should be allowed, then I should atleast be allowed to do so. But haha, if you really think I want to make the Paperhats version 2 be my guest. And if I tried to do it, so effing what? Does it harm you? Don't like it ignore it. And let the 2-3 people who are in it have fun about it.

Here's the thing Rosa: if you say something, then others are allowed to criticise it. If I say something, you and others are allowed to criticise it. That's how debate works.

 

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Read the rules, NO movements are allowed unless they're Tommy's.

Understood I suppose, sorry everyone.

 

[LordTempest]

Even if it was a lie, what harm is there in allowing Ms. Howard her fun? I suppose it a bit ironic, given the initial criticism of me making a Pole. Oh well, still.

I dislike things which are ahistorical, and such a movement would be in my eyes. I am free to exercise my displeasure just as others are free to do so over things that I say, provided we attack arguments and not people.

 

[LordTempest]

Even if it was a lie, what harm is there in allowing Ms. Howard her fun? I suppose it a bit ironic, given the initial criticism of me making a Pole. Oh well, still.

I appreciate all polls, including Pole polls.

 

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I appreciate all polls, including Pole polls.

Pole polls are good yes.

 

[LordTempest]

Pole polls are good yes.

We could do with one right now as a matter of fact. Honestly, I hate these sorts of discussions about rules and so forth.

 

[Andrzej I]

I believe the last Pole-Poll stands.

 

[LordTempest]

I believe the last Pole-Pole stands.

We round the seat figures - one cannot have .6 of a parliamentary seat.

 

[Andrzej I]

To say the least. I merely did not know where to round, since rounding all of them up would leave us with 618 seats.

 

[LordTempest]

To say the least. I merely did not know where to round, since rounding all of them up would leave us with 618 seats.

When that happens Tommy awards the remainder seats to independents.

 

[Andrzej I]

Well, in which case, round down for the three parties and award two independents, I suppose!