The Westminster System - A British Interactive AAR

[Contravarius]

Because she aint no commie.

Well, I would still classify feminism a somewhat "progressive" ideology - that means, more like communism and NOT AT ALL like traditionalist conservatism.
We have a goddamn problem, when the godless feminists find our country's most reactionary party's policies compatible with their own views.

 

[LordTempest]

I am pretty burnt out of ICing. It is so ... dull. So yeah. I'm going to radically calm down.

Instead of calming down, try going to war and stealing IC from your neighbours; I hear having a prince of terror in your cabinet helps with that.

Wait, so... Would You care to explain all this again? Why would a feminist support Tories?

Feminists are allowed to have opinions on foreign and economic policy.

Assuming Labour is amenable to a coalition with the Liberals, which may or may not work out, especially since the radical wing gained such a heavy majority over the moderates, most of whom, I imagine, defected to the Liberals. But yes, a single vote in favour of the Liberals or Labour would tip the precarious balance we have. A vote for the Tories, Nat Libs, or the Communists would - I am fairly certain - maintain the non-functioning stalemate. Come to think of it, a vote for the Liberals may push them beyond 35%, giving a far more comfortable government, rather than a majority by a small handful of seats.

I think its fair to say therefore that a vote for the Communists is definitely a wasted vote whatever way you look at it. Some extra votes for Labour or the Tories might make things more interesting though.

 

[Enewald]

Well, I would still classify feminism a somewhat "progressive" ideology - that means, more like communism and NOT AT ALL like traditionalist conservatism.
We have a goddamn problem, when the godless feminists find our country's most reactionary party's policies compatible with their own views.

There is a difference between being equal before the law and having your property nationalized in the 'name of the proletariat'. Corrupt leechers that do their best to make normal living hard for honest citizens.
Communism aims at the destruction of civilization as we know. Feminism is about equality between genders.

 

[Contravarius]

Feminism is about equality between genders.

But the most right-wing party of a Western country in this time and place should NOT be, that's the problem.

 

[LordTempest]

But the most right-wing party of a country in this time and place should NOT be, that's the problem.

Oh, the Union Movement probably aren't. The Tories however are perfectly fine with women candidates, and so are the Nat Libs judging from some of their MPs.

 

[John Forseti]

Communism aims at the destruction of civilization as we know.

Since civilisation as we know it is based on the exploitation of the weak at the hands of the strong, I actually agree.

 

[Contravarius]

Oh, the Union Movement probably aren't. The Tories however are perfectly fine with women candidates, and so are the Nat Libs judging from some of their MPs.

Right. All I'm saying is, there seems to be a gaping hole in the political landscape of Great Britain. This needs to change.

 

[LordTempest]

Right. All I'm saying is, there seems to be a gaping hole in the political landscape of Great Britain. This needs to change.

There is. And it is being dug by the shovels of abstainers.

 

[Scrapknight]

You heard the man: all ye abstainers, vote Liberal! You don't want some lousy fractious coalition, now do you?

 

[Andrzej I]

Right. All I'm saying is, there seems to be a gaping hole in the political landscape of Great Britain. This needs to change.

Seems true enough. We do, after all, only have one party that isn't for NATO, and even that party seems to merely be a puppet of the Soviet Union. Also, as the member for Liverpool West Derby points out, the Tories are the only strongly militant party out of the lot, too. Not to say the parties are not unique, mind, but a lot of the parties hold fairly similar views on some subjects. I suppose it's not too surprising, given the date.

Anyways, yes, definitely more Liberal votes, if one wants to take the path of least resistance to getting a functionable government. Tories can work too with a bit more effort, if you'd prefer the right over center-left. Any other vote is, essentially, a vote for a weak/minority government.

 

[LordTempest]

Seems true enough. We do, after all, only have one party that isn't for NATO, and even that party seems to merely be a puppet of the Soviet Union. Also, as the member for Liverpool West Derby points out, the Tories are the only strongly militant party out of the lot, too. Not to say the parties are not unique, mind, but a lot of the parties hold fairly similar views on some subjects.

Unlike real-life political parties?

 

[99KingHigh]

Vote National Liberals!

And you get a free murder wig. Unlike those regulars wigs, much too liberal.

 

[DensleyBlair]

Murder wig? What does that entail?

 

[DensleyBlair]

Exactly as I edited in. Clearly we need a monarchist party. Maybe revive the Jacobites? Haha.

Just bringing back the Tories would do. No need to start promoting useless monarchs.

 

[99KingHigh]

Murder wig? What does that entail?

Ricin powder.

 

[Contravarius]

Ricin powder.

*Dom Contravarius falls of his chair, laughing hysterically*

 

[ThaHoward]

Wait, so... Would You care to explain all this again? Why would a feminist support Tories?

As I've told you I did it out of tactical and pragmatical reasons. What drove me away from the National Liberals were they neutrality and freedom of speech and political freedom. What drove me away from the liberals were again neutrality, neglecting our armed forces and having a rather poor economic strategy.

Then I chose the Conservatives as their policies are at least somewhat sound in economics, and they want a continued military modernization and want to protect the free world from communist aggression. Furthermore I would rather see the Conservatives win than the Liberal-Labours. Therefore I voted Conservatives tactically to prevent that.

And I want equality before the law, the rule of law and strong negative rights. As far as I've seen only the Conservatives and National-Liberals somewhat support that. And no parties have taken up Feminism in their party program, so I can be a feminist in my freetime and preach about it in the House of Commons. But as Tanzhang pointed a feminist a,so have opinions on foreign and economical questions. And I felt that, sadly enough, it is best for me and my voters to go over to the Conservative party for this election.

There is a difference between being equal before the law and having your property nationalized in the 'name of the proletariat'. Corrupt leechers that do their best to make normal living hard for honest citizens.
Communism aims at the destruction of civilization as we know. Feminism is about equality between genders.

Yes indeed. I want equality before the law. Not this "equality" Socialist/Commies and to a degree Liberals preach of. Which is not equality as it take away the freedoms and rights of other groups when it make other groups stronger.

 

[jeeshadow]

Liberal. They are best.

 

[Contravarius]

*snip*

Okay, let's try this from another perspective.
An illiberal anti-feminist wants to vote. What party would he choose in Great Britain?

 

[ThaHoward]

Liberal. They are best.

Noooo! I guess we will see Britain falling from being a global power and protecting her allies into being a puppet of USA and unable to defend her allies. Now how can we expect our allies to defend us when we need it when we won't support them? :huh:

Okay, let's try this from another perspective.
An illiberal anti-feminist wants to vote. What party would he choose in Great Britain?

Any. As it is no party that support women's rights. And as we've seen most MP's let then be Tories, Labours, Commies, Liberals or National-Liberals think feminism is childish, is against women's rights and so on. And no party have taken up the issue of women's rights. You can have as mich success in the Conservative party as the communist one. Probally more success in the Conservative party as they do value the liberty of it citizens, their wellbeing and to not have civil unrest. The Commies are most concerned about eradicating Capitalism and worshipping Marx and Stalin. And to yell at eachother ove who is revitionistc and who is the correct Marxist and so on.