The Westminster System - A British Interactive AAR

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Oh how could I forget! Amazing feats when it comes to securing our position by devoloping a nuclear arsenal and ICBM's! And I think we should aid America and the people of Indonesia. They have already attacked Australia! And Australia is nominally a part of our Empire, it is a part of the Commonwealth, is a sovereign nation and is an awesome country! We need to defend our brethren and save Indonesia from Socialism.

They have already proven to be aggressive. For all we know they may start to attack other asian countries and Australia. And they are in a strategic position. Or it may simply encourage the USSR and China to expand further! I say we should send our troops and ships to Indonesia.

Correction it should be Communism, not all socialists are down with this sort of thing.

 

[ThaHoward]

Maybe went a bit far their, but the main thing is that Egypt should be allowed to decide its own affairs which means at least letting them buy into the canal you know? A man can dream no?



In my Radical days I would be disturbed by how much I agree a pseudo Tory

Well of course they should be allowed to buy shares. But we must stand against unlawful aggression But if they have money and peaceful agreements to offer then I have no issues with it.

And remember that I am more liberal than a Tory I am a classical-liberal and a feminist after all. Even if I am ridiculized because of the latter - but I am used to that for supporting a free market already - I still strongly hold unto my believes of personal liberty and social progress

 

[NikoHoI3]

Is she a love interest for you or something? She have done nothing and yet you go on and on about how she is our savior and congratule her etc.

(( ))

Maybe... A little. o

Although, this beautiful young women has just entered parliament, she must be encouraged because I envision a bright future ahead for her! You can tell that she is the future of this nation when she smiles.

 

[ThaHoward]

Correction it should be Communism, there not all down with this stuff!

Same shit different wrapping. Isn't communists only people who want socialism through revolution? And also according to Marxism, or Lenism-Marxism or what they call eachother, Socialism is the step before Communism. So then they are in the Socialist phase, and they are just militant socialists.

Maybe... A little. o

Although, this beautiful young women has just entered parliament, she must be encouraged because I envision a bright future ahead for her! You can tell that she is the future of this nation when she smiles.

Why have you never said this about me? . Maybe my feminism scare you off :ninja:

 

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Well of course they should be allowed to buy shares. But we must stand against unlawful aggression But if they have money and peaceful agreements to offer then I have no issues with it.

And remember that I am more liberal than a Tory I am a classical-liberal and a feminist after all. Even if I am ridiculized because of the latter - but I am used to that for supporting a free market already - I still strongly hold unto my believes of personal liberty and social progress

Oh I know, I'm using my old Lenin admiring (shudder) lenses, I got better though!

((True OC I hope this is enough posting to be mentioned as a character :laugh)

 

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Same shit different wrapping. Isn't communists only people who want socialism through revolution? And also according to Marxism, or Lenism-Marxism or what they call eachother, Socialism is the step before Communism. So then they are in the Socialist phase, and they are just militant socialists.

Still,There are many anti-soviet style socialists who have done us a great deal of good.

 

[ThaHoward]

Oh I know, I'm using my old Lenin admiring (shudder) lenses, I got better though!

((True OC I hope this is enough posting to be mentioned as a character :laugh)

Haha! :laugh:

Still,There are many anti-soviet style socialists who have done us a great deal of good.

Impossible! Socialism is evil! In all seriousness I have to agree that they have brought up many important issues in the past. As fo example fighting for the poorer, creating unions and supporting the rights of women. However I disagree with their methods and ultimate goals. But they have brought up some necessairy debates and focused on some issues that was ignored.

 

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Haha! :laugh:



Impossible! Socialism is evil! In all seriousness I have to agree that they have brought up many important issues in the past. As fo example fighting for the poorer, creating unions and supporting the rights of women. However I disagree with their methods and ultimate goals. But they have brought up some necessairy debates and focused on some issues that was ignored.

I may be more sympathetic to socialists but I agree with your conclusion.

I kind of want make to the British Civil Liberties Alliance an actual thing now, maybe some cross-party group support for social freedom issues, like women rights and all that good stuff to bring some energy to these proceedings. I think we got at least two members to start with and break up the economic monotony, and ruffle feathers on both sides of the benches.

OOC (How much can we role play this thing? Because it may be anachronistic but I want to be a civil rights hipster! )

 

[ThaHoward]

I kind of want make to the British Civil Liberties Alliance an actual thing now, maybe some cross-party group support for social freedom issues, like women rights and all that good stuff to bring some energy to these proceedings. I think we got at least two members to start with and break up the economic monotony, and ruffle feathers on both sides of the benches.

OOC (How much can we role play this thing? Because it may be anachronistic but I want to be a civil rights hipster! )

Well I have this party-politically independent and economical and foreign policy neutral Feminist group of mine. It have me (a national liberal member), two liberals and one labour in it. But beware, you will get constant attacks on you

But it isn't that big yet. Mainly because it is so little education. And knowledge about this matter.

((But. I hope this will change in teh 60's and 70's ^_^ But then it will most likely be other major Feminist and civil rights movents, i.e. those it were in real life.))

 

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Well I have this party-politically independent and economical and foreign policy neutral Feminist group of mine. It have me a national liberal member, two liberals and one labour in it. But beware, you will get constant attacks on you

I will officially join, if you end up upsetting no one then you have not truly lived!

Add a third liberal to that the list my dear!

 

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((But. I hope this will change in teh 60's and 70's ^_^ But then it will most likely be other major Feminist and civil rights movents, i.e. those it were in real life.))

There's no such things as unfashionably early to these things,

While I'm thinking about it Should we set up a separate foreign policy junket!

Something that stands for constructive interventions like the falcon group to contrast doves and hawks.

 

[ThaHoward]

I will afficially join, if you end up upsetting no one then you have not truly lived!

Add a third liberal to that the list my dear!

Welcome aboard! It gives me hope to see that it is truly progressives among us. The future may indeed be bright!

 

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Welcome aboard! It gives me hope to see that it is truly progressives among us. The future may indeed be bright!

We're a more likely alliance then many others.

 

[Dadarian]

The Tories and Liberal alliance? Sounds good to me.

Also I like our new leader.

 

[ThaHoward]

We're a more likely alliance then many others.

Unfortunately the Feminist Alliance is no party, but just a movement/think tank/interest group. But as I've mentioned earlier, many times, I do think that I have a lot more (and any true classical liberal) with the Liberal party than the backward Tories. Unfortunately it is many really conservative ones in the National Liberal party and anti-progressives.

But I think the Feminist Alliance is a nice cause that unite progressives from all over the politcal spectrum. ((However it will most likely crack in the future, especially when feminism and civil rights become issues. Now I'm thinking of the ideas on feminism. As I for example stated that I am a individualist feminist. So then the struggle between positive and negative rights will become to emerge and the group will disagree on these issues But it will hopefully serve as a mind process starter and proto-civil rights and feminism movement ^-^))

The Tories and Liberal alliance? Sounds good to me.

Also I like our new leader.

So you no longer want the National Liberals? What. Happened to the Liberals and National-Liberals having so much in common?

 

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The Tories and Liberal alliance? Sounds good to me.

Also I like our new leader.

I'm iffy on that but I'm not opposed.

 

[ThaHoward]

I'm iffy on that but I'm not opposed.

Don't forget what they think about social progress.

 

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Unfortunately the Feminist Alliance is no party, but just a movement/think tank/interest group. But as I've mentioned earlier, many times, I do think that I have a lot more (and any true classical liberal) with the Liberal party than the backward Tories. Unfortunately it is many really conservative ones in the National Liberal party and anti-progressives.

But I think the Feminist Alliance is a nice cause that unite progressives from all over the politcal spectrum. ((However it will most likely crack in the future, especially when feminism and civil rights become issues. Now I'm thinking of the ideas on feminism. As I for example stated that I am a individualist feminist. So then the struggle between positive and negative rights will become to emerge and the group will disagree on these issues ))

I'm A positive rights man myself but can promise to keep things friendly.


So you no longer want the National Liberals? What. Happened to the Liberals and National-Liberals having so much in common?

Economic issues are sadly a deal breaker I may not find national liberals ideas monstrous, but I cannot allow enewaldites to take charge even if somewhat trust you.

 

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Don't forget what they think about social progress.

I would much prefer Wilson's labor party and reasonable nat. libs. join us than the Tories, As Even if current Tory economics is not horrible at the moment they will refuse to go further than stasis for the post war consensus. Which cannot be allowed to keep the good parts of it alive! Did we Privatize Leland because I would be open to privatize that and even British steel if the moment calls for it.

 

[ThaHoward]

Economic issues are sadly a deal breaker I may not find national liberals ideas monstrous, but I cannot allow enewaldites to take charge even if somewhat trust you.

As I've said economics will be out of the picture. We will only focus and discuss the problems in society and it's social-conservatism and oppression of women and homosexuals.

((What I'm thinking about is the practical solutions. Where most labours and social-liberals would for example like quotas, I would not. You can compare this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualist_feminism to how mainstream feminism will most likely become. So once equal laws and such, educational reform, different campaigns and legalizing homosexuality is in place many of the differences might start to show.

But as of 1958 the issues and solutions would be more or less be the same and is in that way a good way of uniting different political ideologies under the same case. Hell most in labour party, liberal party and national liberal party would be, or are, against feminism and for equal rights for women and homosexuals.

And for homosexuals it is only about - currently - to legalize homosexual sex to not go too far and start going on about equal marriage and adoption rights. That would be unplausible. One step at the time ^_^ ))