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I'm wondering if Tommy will have to prohibit the formation of personal cults in his next interactive AAR. :p

After all, I'm just a mortal man and the rest of the NLP voters might not agree with me on everything. Some of them might even harbour sympathies for the socialists!
 

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Funny you mention that ... One of the three local constituencies I will list in the election update will feature the National a Liberal candidate Margaret Hilda Roberts ... Won't tell you if she wins yet though :p

I'll provide a poll as requested a little later today.
 

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Funny you mention that ... One of the three local constituencies I will list in the election update will feature the National a Liberal candidate Margaret Hilda Roberts ... Won't tell you if she wins yet though :p

I'll provide a poll as requested a little later today.
National Liberal? Well, there's an interesting twist in things... It certainly seems to make sense – at least on first impressions. I imagine she'd be a Unionist, though.
 

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Too true, and makes me leary of treating corporations as full people, they already get a ton of breaks.
Thankfully under English law a corporation is not treated as being a person. This shows the clear superiority of the British way of life.
 

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So the NLP?
No, the NLP is the National Liberal Party which adheres to Classical/Libertarian Liberalism.

We in the Liberal Party adhere to the New Liberalism or Social Liberalism put forward by Mr Lloyd-George among others.
 

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No, the NLP is the National Liberal Party which adheres to Classical/Libertarian Liberalism.

We in the Liberal Party adhere to the New Liberalism or Social Liberalism put forward by Mr Lloyd-George among others.
But the Right Honourable Earl Lloyd-George of Dwyfor led the National Liberals, did he not?
 

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That is true but they gone loopy.
Some of their voters have gone loopy, true, but what else would you expect? :D
 

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But the Right Honourable Earl Lloyd-George of Dwyfor led the National Liberals, did he not?
Not these National Liberals. The NLs led by Lloyd George were ideologically and legally distinct from those led by Simon, hence why the historical term for the second National Liberals is "Simonite"
 

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Not these National Liberals. The NLs led by Lloyd George were ideologically and legally distinct from those led by Simon, hence why the historical term for the second National Liberals is "Simonite"
Whence sprouts the confusion. I'm quite relieved, actually. The idea of Lloyd George being in the same party as Simon, et al, never did sit well.
 

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Whence sprouts the confusion. I'm quite relieved, actually. The idea of Lloyd George being in the same party as Simon, et al, never did sit well.
They were all in the Liberal Party before the second split! I'm pretty sure Gwillym Lloyd George became a Simonite at one stage.
 

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They were all in the Liberal Party before the second split! I'm pretty sure Gwillym Lloyd George became a Simonite at one stage.
Sorry, no – I meant after the split. Naturally they were all Liberals (wasn't Simon Home Sec for a period in the pre-war government?). :)

Oh, and some quick research reveals that the Viscount Tenby was indeed a National Liberal by the end of his career.
 

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Funny you mention that ... One of the three local constituencies I will list in the election update will feature the National a Liberal candidate Margaret Hilda Roberts ...
Thatcher, you mean. She was married with two children by 1954. :p
 

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Sorry, no – I meant after the split. Naturally they were all Liberals (wasn't Simon Home Sec for a period in the pre-war government?). :)

Oh, and some quick research reveals that the Viscount Tenby was indeed a National Liberal by the end of his career.
Although in this timeline he could well be a Liberal still, same for his radical leftie sister.
 

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Although in this timeline he could well be a Liberal still, same for his radical leftie sister.
One would hope she isn't Labour at this exact moment in time.
 

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The Earl Russell

I give you now Lord John Reformer,
A consummate Whiggish performer.
A favourite of Grey,
(His own protégé,)
In the end: a party transformer.


Charles James Fox

A radical PM for sure,
No one can say he as a bore.
An MP at 19,
Ended only PC,
But, in fairness, he didn't want more.


The Viscount Melbourne

A father-like man for the queen,
His private life: somewhat obscene.
But his character: good,
If misunderstood,
He preferred being part of a team.


The Viscount Palmerston

A man who was often divisive,
His policies, no less, were decisive,
Became PM late,
Ended lying in state,
His nickname was somewhat derisive.


The Earl of Beaconsfield

A dandyish Jew, was old Ben,
His career: not the best (to begin).
Although he was Tory,
He wrote a good story,
And ended up at Number Ten.


The Earl of Oxford

No one really knew his first name,
And the war was a bit of a pain.
Some called him "Squiffy",
His drink rate was iffy.
He was friends with a man called Haldane.


Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman

Some say he isn't that quotable,
Indeed, he's neither too notable,
But he came and he saw,
With an aim to reform,
And his drinks he preferred always potable.
 

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One would hope she isn't Labour at this exact moment in time.
Don't think she defected until the sixties IIRC. Now that the Liberals are so prominent, Megan would be a good Castle-esque figure for the left of the party.

So much confirming gender roles!
It never occurred to her that she was a woman prime minister. :)
 
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