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What about if you lived in the National Socialist regime our brave soldiers deafeated? Would you then think freedom of religion and protection from violence were pointless?
Actually, at this point in time, a Vichy Britain sounds pretty good, really.
((Erh, I'm off to sleep. KingHigh, give her hell.))
 

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Actually, at this point in time, a Vichy Britain sounds pretty good, really.
((Erh, I'm off to sleep. KingHigh, give her hell.))

After your...previous statements, I might have to turn liberal.
 

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Are you playing a characte or are you serious...

((Character.))

Even how terrible his views are, we must allow him air his opinions. I ful,heartly disagree and are disgusted by his views. But I will figt for his rights to say so. Also through education and enlightenment we will show others how faulty and horrible these values are.

And furthermore I do support that he and others may believe so, but I do not support the idea that they may implement it. Everyone, imo, should be free from moralism and coercion from other individuals or the state.
 

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On second thought...

So tell me, would you like to live in the National Socialist regime we fought against? Are our rights and liberties still so pointless?
 

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Are you playing a characte or are you serious...
((If I post in double brackets I'm talking out of character, without them, I'm playing a character. My views on the whole Vichy-thing might differ from yours, but I'm usually smart enough never to talk about this OOC, mostly because I like to get along with people.
Also, this kind of self-parody is incredibly refreshing, sometimes. Opens up new perspectives and whatnot.))
 
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So tell me, would you like to live in the National Socialist regime we fought against? Are our rights and liberties still so pointless?

I'd rather not live in a National Socialist regime because I'd be dead for different reasons. And in relation to rights and liberties, I don't think they are pointless, I just don't think that governments should be tied in their existence to them.
 

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I'd rather not live in a National Socialist regime because I'd be dead for different reasons. And in relation to rights and liberties, I don't think they are pointless, I just don't think that governments should be tied in their existence to them.

So you don't think for exmple that the National Socialist regime were wrong? Shouldn't it for example be basic rights and linerties that prevents such crimes in the future?

Most think that only indoviduals can conduct crimes, but governments are just as capable of commiting crimes.
 
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((Character.))

Even how terrible his views are, we must allow him air his opinions. I ful,heartly disagree and are disgusted by his views. But I will figt for his rights to say so. Also through education and enlightenment we will show others how faulty and horrible these values are.

And furthermore I do support that he and others may believe so, but I do not support the idea that they may implement it. Everyone, imo, should be free from moralism and coercion from other individuals or the state.

I proudly agree with you on around 48% of the issues.

(Going to start roleplaying a bit now)
 

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I proudly agree with you on around 48% of the issues.

(Going to start roleplaying a bit now)

What is it you agree on and disagree on then my noble Sir?
 
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So you don't think for exmple that the National Socialist regime were wrong? Shouldn't it for example be basic rights and linerties that prevents such crimes in the future?

Most think that only indoviduals can conduct crimes, but governments are just as capable of commiting crimes.

We must remember that businesses are just as capable of crimes and should just like the state be held accountable.

As to what I agree on: Feminism and sexual rights, institutional transparency and I assume Rehabilitative justice.

(roleplaying wise I'm a swing vote between labor and the liberals, obviously care about sexual minorities as I am one)
 

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We must remember that businesses are just a s capable of crimes and should just like the state be held accountable.

Yes, and those who run the bussinesses are ultimately individuals. The same with the government for that sake. Never said anything against that. If a bussiness for example start to assassinate the competition or send out thugs to wreck their competitors property - then they have to face the consequences.

And good to see others sympathising with the Feminist Alliance.

((And I'm a sexual miniority as well, but that is not why I've chosen the feminist-sexual diversity path :) ))
 
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Yes, and those who run the bussinesses are ultimately individuals. The same with the government for that sake. Never said anything against that. If a bussiness for example start to assassinate the competition or send out thugs to wreck their competitors property - then they have to face the consequences.

Indeed, nothing can be above criticism or the law, my lady.
 

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Same for me but the leading cause of most human action is self interest ;)

Sound like a real Classical Liberal or Libertarian to me! :pl
 

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Yes, and those who run the bussinesses are ultimately individuals. The same with the government for that sake. Never said anything against that. If a bussiness for example start to assassinate the competition or send out thugs to wreck their competitors property - then they have to face the consequences.

And good to see others sympathising with the Feminist Alliance.

((And I'm a sexual miniority as well, but that is not why I've chosen the feminist-sexual diversity path :) ))
((Technically in most Western countries you're actually the sexual majority :p ))
 
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