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Reform what? Seizing money from the consumer by denationalising and deregulating the economy, forcing prices up and the average citizen into poverty? By God you are truly fucked.
Having feverish nightmares?
Companies exist to serve the consumers, if the companies get infamy from their deeds, they will probably lose customers. Also you cannot kill good ideas. New companies cannot all be bought by existing companies, nor will they all be.
Those companies that do not enter into a death struggle with other companies will very likely emerge victorious from such scenario.
Also many companies are owned by shareholders, and they would kick out the manager that is doing the best to wreck the company in some mad fight.
The market exists to serve the consumers, why and how it could serve cartels is unknown to me. Cartels are now dominant consumers?
Where the heck do you get all those ideas from?
Having feverish nightmares?
Companies exist to serve the consumers, if the companies get infamy from their deeds, they will probably lose customers. Also you cannot kill good ideas. New companies cannot all be bought by existing companies, nor will they all be.
Those companies that do not enter into a death struggle with other companies will very likely emerge victorious from such scenario.
Also many companies are owned by shareholders, and they would kick out the manager that is doing the best to wreck the company in some mad fight.
The market exists to serve the consumers, why and how it could serve cartels is unknown to me. Cartels are now dominant consumers?
Where the heck do you get all those ideas from?
Natural assumptions. Companies in a perfect world serve consumers, but as they gather wealth and power, this ends. Opposition to the company is crushed, the press is bought, the obstacles are removed. Shareholders are placated by rising profits or are quietly bought out/otherwise removed.
Eventually the company is dominated by cartels or conglomerates. People work for the company, invest in the company, buy from the company. All innovation is hired and coopted by the company. All opposition is removed by the company. The economy is corrupted, destroyed. The free market is never free, can never be free, will never be free.
Welcome to the world Enewald, you are a failed prophet for a false cause. You're actions will result in nothing more than even more repression and economic stagnation. Congratulations Enewald, you are a Communist.
I'm not denying that.
They're your views. Don't be offended if I don't agree.
I can give you many reasons why I don't want to debate economics with you. "Surrender" is not one of them. Largely, my lack of desire to engage in the verbal equivalent of throwing oneself against a large brick wall repeatedly stems from the fact that you and I hold different definitions of certain things which mean that we can't agree. I accept this; you seemingly don't.
I vote for the Liberal Party once again and urge all those moderate Labourites out there to make the logical and sensible choice and vote for the Liberals. This radical Bevanite party is nothing more than an extension of the Communist Party and is no longer the face of moderate socialism that it once was.
The future looks bright for true liberalism.
Poll as of now:
Liberals: 15
CPGB: 6
Tories: 6
Nat Lib (S): 3
Labour: 3
Nat Lib (U): 1
Total Votes: 33
Poll as of now:
Liberals: 15
CPGB: 6
Tories: 6
Nat Lib (S): 3
Labour: 3
Nat Lib (U): 1
Total Votes: 33
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I take the brick wall as a compliment this time.
Let me give you this quite concerning definitions of words:
"The most effective way of making people accept the validity of the values they are to serve is to persuade them that they are really the same as those which they, or at least the best among them, have always held, but which were not properly understood or recognized before. The people are made to transfer their allegiance from the old gods to the new under the pretense that the new gods really are what their sound instinct had always told them but what before they had only dimly seen. And the most efficient technique to this end is to use the old words but change their meaning. Few traits of totalitarian regimes are at the same time so confusing to the superficial observer and yet so characteristic of the whole intellectual climate as the complete perversion of language, the change of meaning of the words by which the ideals of the new regimes are expressed.… If one has not oneself experienced this process, it is difficult to appreciate the magnitude of this change of the meaning of words, the confusion it causes, and the barriers to any rational discussion which it creates. It has to be seen to be understood how, if one of two brothers embraces the new faith, after a short while he appears to speak a different language which makes any real communication between them impossible. And the confusion becomes worse because this change of meaning of words describing political ideals is not a single event but a continuous process, a technique employed consciously or unconsciously to direct the people. Gradually, as this process continues, the whole language becomes despoiled, and words become empty shells deprived of any definite meaning, as capable of denoting one thing as its opposite and used solely for the emotional associations which still adhere to them."
That wasn't a definition of "words" – unless, of course, you've "despoiled" the word "definition".
I'm going to go ahead and say that I don't agree with that in full. I'll leave it there, seeing as, as I've said, I don't want to have to "debate" with you any further on the topic.
Enewald, will you stop? This is getting bothersome for most players. Please keep your political views to the OT forum, or at least stop spamming them.
I place my vote for the Conservatives. Let's keep the Tories in power for all our sakes.
I guess that the most moderate labour voters made the right choice of voting the Liberals instead of the now radical Labour party.
Edited the poll.
I think they're doing poorly because of the alliance rather than in spite of it.
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