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lloyd007/Enewald: As Zhuge Liang pointed out, I decided not to cooperate with the Entente. They've been at war for years now and haven't managed to accomplish anything save forcing something of a stalemate in North Africa. Allying with them comes with its own baggage, both in terms of simply cooperating with them, as well as the negative reaction at home.
Nathan Madien: I suspect I'll leave it as it is. Actually, I didn't know you could expand facilities in occupied provinces. As for Greenland.... it's completely worthless.
kovan09: An interesting possibility, though I can't imagine Congress would be too pleased with attacking a thoroughly neutral country.
Spitfire_Pilot:
SaintBeautancus/GasTurbine: Thanks!
The United States in the World War - Part II
Having nearly blundered fatally into the clutches of a large part of the British fleet on May 26, the South Dakota and Pensacola made haste for the relative safety of Iceland, where the remainder of the Atlantic Fleet was stationed. Meanwhile, Admiral King departed from Boston with the Pacific Fleet, hoping to locate the British before they slipped back to port once again. A week and a half of fruitless searching ensued. Having no luck in tracking the British, King began the voyage back to Boston.
In the early morning hours of June 9, hardly more than two dozen miles off the Nova Scotia coast, a mass of unidentified ships was spotted in the distance by the destroyer screen. Within moments, it became clear that it was Admiral Ramsay and the entirety of the North Sea Fleet. With three aircraft carriers, six battleships, a battlecruiser, seven heavy cruisers, and a vast array of lesser cruisers and destroyers under his command, the Americans were outnumbered more than two-to-one and severely outgunned. Having the advantage in carriers, King veered sharply to the south in the hopes of avoiding a direct battle while ordering all fighters to be scrambled.
For the next several hours, Ramsay pursued his American counterpart doggedly, determined for his battleships to close within firing range and deliver a crushing defeat to the American navy. What ensued was a running aerial dogfight, with the British unable to close the distance or disperse the numerically superior American fighters. This gave King an opening, and several waves of bombers counter-attacked the British fleet. The carrier Land and Labour was struck several times but remained afloat, the plumes of thick smoke from its flight deck visible for miles. Late in the day, the British attack groups finally slipped past the American defenses, scoring several hits on the North Carolina. Still serviceable, the battleship continued to keep pace with the retreating American fleet, which slipped away from Ramsay under the cover of darkness.
While technically a draw with no ships lost on either side, the battle was a victory for the United States. To have inflicted as much damage as he received from his numerically superior foe, King had provided a golden propaganda opportunity for the war effort. But while the general populace responded positively to the news of June 9, members of the administration voiced grave concerns. King personally expressed his annoyance at the Canadians; Ramsay's fleet had attacked from the north, indicating the massive British fleet had approached dangerously close to Halifax. Secretary of State Hull conveyed the United States' hope that Canada would, in the future, make an effort to contest British supremacy of the Canadian coast; naturally, Hull's note was received quite poorly by King Edward VIII and Prime Minister.
The battle also clearly indicated that the fall of Iceland had done little to change Britain's war priorities, and that the New England coast was still at risk to an attack. Nimitz was ordered back from Reykjavík to reinforce King. The Navy was further bolstered by the return of both the Lexington and Northampton to active duty on the 26th with great fanfare. Confident in the assumption that the Syndicalist allies would not attempt to retake Iceland, the recombined fleet engaged in a series of long-range patrols, hoping to force a decisive battle with either the British Atlantic or North Sea Fleets. The British, however, remained as elusive as ever.
Meanwhile, the expansion of the Army continued apace. In mid-July, another ten infantry divisions completed training and were deployed; most were distributed throughout the preexisting armies to bolster their overall strength, but three were formed together with the 7th Infantry Division, comprised mostly of veterans of the civil war that had served as a garrison force in Atlanta and recruits from the Mexican war, to create the new VI. Army, under the command of General Craig. however, Craig, who had served in the Spanish-American War, was rapidly approaching his retirement, and was not expected to retain command of the new VI. Army for long, and was expected to be replaced by Lt. General Haislip, who had served in the civil war as 7th Division's commander. Further expanding on the emphasis on new, modern forms of warfare, a third armored corps was deployed on July 17 and put under Lt. General Ernest Harmon.
By the beginning of August, the United States Army could boast of a standing army of fifty divisions, nine of which were armored and another five mechanized; adding to the tally were the two Marine Corps divisions already in Iceland. Considering the American army had consisted of only eighteen infantry divisions on the eve of the war with Mexico and Cuba, this was a truly impressive armament program. With no shortage of recruits, this number could only be expected to expand even further.
A partial view of continued American military expansion, mid-1943.
More promising still, the standard of living amongst the general populace remained high; shortages were rare, and it seemed the United States' reinvigorated industry, powered by a plentiful supply of raw materials, showed no signs of strain in keeping up with wartime demand or meeting the increasingly ambitious government contracts. But the country's industrial resources were not unlimited, leading several Republican members of Congress to criticize Roosevelt with accusations of corruption and mismanagement. Though conceding to the wisdom of General Bradley's call for an advanced, modern military force, some mocked the airborne divisions currently being trained as a flight of whimsical imagination. In particular, Senator Landon questioned the wisdom of providing the Navy with only two additional capital ships over the next year, yet at the same time diverting such large amounts of money and material to the weapons projects currently underway in Idaho, New Mexico, and Oklahoma. Roosevelt could only respond that such measures currently underway were starting to bear fruit, and abandoning them now would only be an even greater waste of resources. General MacArthur, who was usually expected to corroborate the President, remained notably quiet.
Nathan Madien: I suspect I'll leave it as it is. Actually, I didn't know you could expand facilities in occupied provinces. As for Greenland.... it's completely worthless.
kovan09: An interesting possibility, though I can't imagine Congress would be too pleased with attacking a thoroughly neutral country.
Spitfire_Pilot:
SaintBeautancus/GasTurbine: Thanks!
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The United States in the World War - Part II
Having nearly blundered fatally into the clutches of a large part of the British fleet on May 26, the South Dakota and Pensacola made haste for the relative safety of Iceland, where the remainder of the Atlantic Fleet was stationed. Meanwhile, Admiral King departed from Boston with the Pacific Fleet, hoping to locate the British before they slipped back to port once again. A week and a half of fruitless searching ensued. Having no luck in tracking the British, King began the voyage back to Boston.
In the early morning hours of June 9, hardly more than two dozen miles off the Nova Scotia coast, a mass of unidentified ships was spotted in the distance by the destroyer screen. Within moments, it became clear that it was Admiral Ramsay and the entirety of the North Sea Fleet. With three aircraft carriers, six battleships, a battlecruiser, seven heavy cruisers, and a vast array of lesser cruisers and destroyers under his command, the Americans were outnumbered more than two-to-one and severely outgunned. Having the advantage in carriers, King veered sharply to the south in the hopes of avoiding a direct battle while ordering all fighters to be scrambled.
For the next several hours, Ramsay pursued his American counterpart doggedly, determined for his battleships to close within firing range and deliver a crushing defeat to the American navy. What ensued was a running aerial dogfight, with the British unable to close the distance or disperse the numerically superior American fighters. This gave King an opening, and several waves of bombers counter-attacked the British fleet. The carrier Land and Labour was struck several times but remained afloat, the plumes of thick smoke from its flight deck visible for miles. Late in the day, the British attack groups finally slipped past the American defenses, scoring several hits on the North Carolina. Still serviceable, the battleship continued to keep pace with the retreating American fleet, which slipped away from Ramsay under the cover of darkness.
While technically a draw with no ships lost on either side, the battle was a victory for the United States. To have inflicted as much damage as he received from his numerically superior foe, King had provided a golden propaganda opportunity for the war effort. But while the general populace responded positively to the news of June 9, members of the administration voiced grave concerns. King personally expressed his annoyance at the Canadians; Ramsay's fleet had attacked from the north, indicating the massive British fleet had approached dangerously close to Halifax. Secretary of State Hull conveyed the United States' hope that Canada would, in the future, make an effort to contest British supremacy of the Canadian coast; naturally, Hull's note was received quite poorly by King Edward VIII and Prime Minister.
The battle also clearly indicated that the fall of Iceland had done little to change Britain's war priorities, and that the New England coast was still at risk to an attack. Nimitz was ordered back from Reykjavík to reinforce King. The Navy was further bolstered by the return of both the Lexington and Northampton to active duty on the 26th with great fanfare. Confident in the assumption that the Syndicalist allies would not attempt to retake Iceland, the recombined fleet engaged in a series of long-range patrols, hoping to force a decisive battle with either the British Atlantic or North Sea Fleets. The British, however, remained as elusive as ever.
Meanwhile, the expansion of the Army continued apace. In mid-July, another ten infantry divisions completed training and were deployed; most were distributed throughout the preexisting armies to bolster their overall strength, but three were formed together with the 7th Infantry Division, comprised mostly of veterans of the civil war that had served as a garrison force in Atlanta and recruits from the Mexican war, to create the new VI. Army, under the command of General Craig. however, Craig, who had served in the Spanish-American War, was rapidly approaching his retirement, and was not expected to retain command of the new VI. Army for long, and was expected to be replaced by Lt. General Haislip, who had served in the civil war as 7th Division's commander. Further expanding on the emphasis on new, modern forms of warfare, a third armored corps was deployed on July 17 and put under Lt. General Ernest Harmon.
By the beginning of August, the United States Army could boast of a standing army of fifty divisions, nine of which were armored and another five mechanized; adding to the tally were the two Marine Corps divisions already in Iceland. Considering the American army had consisted of only eighteen infantry divisions on the eve of the war with Mexico and Cuba, this was a truly impressive armament program. With no shortage of recruits, this number could only be expected to expand even further.
A partial view of continued American military expansion, mid-1943.
More promising still, the standard of living amongst the general populace remained high; shortages were rare, and it seemed the United States' reinvigorated industry, powered by a plentiful supply of raw materials, showed no signs of strain in keeping up with wartime demand or meeting the increasingly ambitious government contracts. But the country's industrial resources were not unlimited, leading several Republican members of Congress to criticize Roosevelt with accusations of corruption and mismanagement. Though conceding to the wisdom of General Bradley's call for an advanced, modern military force, some mocked the airborne divisions currently being trained as a flight of whimsical imagination. In particular, Senator Landon questioned the wisdom of providing the Navy with only two additional capital ships over the next year, yet at the same time diverting such large amounts of money and material to the weapons projects currently underway in Idaho, New Mexico, and Oklahoma. Roosevelt could only respond that such measures currently underway were starting to bear fruit, and abandoning them now would only be an even greater waste of resources. General MacArthur, who was usually expected to corroborate the President, remained notably quiet.
Wartime politics, bah.
There ought to be none of them.
Actually, I like the look at wartime politics.
I think Landon does have a point, though.
I personally think the best of MacArthur when he stays quiet. Although it does sound rather alarming :O
And enough already of the naval battles! I can't wait to see the 101st parachute their way through the skies and onto the sandy beaches of Normandy (Dover might also be a good idea, although then you'd be forced to either cooperate or fight the Entente).
And enough already of the naval battles! I can't wait to see the 101st parachute their way through the skies and onto the sandy beaches of Normandy (Dover might also be a good idea, although then you'd be forced to either cooperate or fight the Entente).
The United States in the World War - Part III
For the next several months following the flurry of naval activity in the north Atlantic, very little of consequence occurred. Admirals King and Nimitz continued to patrol the waters off New England, Newfoundland, and Iceland, having little success in locating the Syndicalist fleets and bringing them to battle, though also avoiding being brought to battle by the superior combined Syndicalist navies.
For their part, the Syndicalists, particularly the British, made it clear that engaging the American fleet was not a high priority. In late summer, the British landed a sizable expeditionary force in Tunisia, seizing Tunis and completely outflanking the Entente armies that had doggedly held their ground in the face of repeated Spanish attacks east of Algiers. Within a month, the whole of the Entente's North African coast was captured. Not resting content with this, the British proceeded to land an army on the Ivory Coast and Liberia in October, which rapidly began to advance in all directions in the face of only meager Entente resistance, bringing the very existence of Marshal Petain's Nationalist France into serious question.
The American reaction to developments in Africa was decidedly lackluster. Few considered West Africa to be of any appreciable worth, certainly not equal to the risk of dispatching the fleet into the south Atlantic, and only served to further demonstrate the futility of military cooperation with the Canadians and their allies. Democratic Senator Alben Barkley, who had first gained national attention for suggesting a military assistance package to the Entente nations in exchange for military access, made headlines by openly deriding the Entente's military effort. Thoroughly unimpressed with its record to date, the Senator described the Entente alliance as 'a pack of helpless schoolboys preyed upon by bullies.' As a legacy to the bitterness felt by many Midwesterners for Canadian interference in the civil war, several editorials of the Chicago Tribune went so far as to suggest simply 'borrowing' the Canadian fleet if they refused to use it.
American-Canadian cooperation was deemed unlikely by most.
With the public's attention no longer held by events at the front, such as it was, this kind of posturing continued throughout the autumn months and into the winter. The administration remained aloof, dismissing a war with the Canadians over present circumstances as outlandish. The military build-up continued to run smoothly, and weapons development projects were beginning to bear fruit; production on the new B-29 bomber, as well as an upgraded Sherman medium tank variant, began in full swing in late 1943. Concurrently, the military underwent a significant administrative change; Patrick Hurley, Chief of Staff since the Hoover Administration, announced his retirement on November 9, and was replaced by George Marshall. The change caused a minor stir in the public, particularly amongst certain circles that considered MacArthur to be a more suitable man for the job, ignoring the fact that Marshall had assumed most of Hurley's responsibilities since the start of the war.
Just a day before the change, news arrived from Iceland that British bombers had launched a surprise attack on Reykjavík. The raid inflicted only minimal damage on perimeter antiair batteries, and little was thought of it. That, however, changed, when on the morning of January 2, 1944, the British attempted to land two infantry divisions under the command of Lt. General Soames south of the Icelandic capital. Vandergrift's Marines responded swiftly, preventing the British from advancing beyond their beachheads. Fortunately, the American fleet was in harbor, and hurriedly sallied forth to engage Grand Admiral Cunningham's Atlantic Fleet, who lingered only long enough to cover the evacuation of Soames' troops before retreating back toward Scapa Flow.
Nimitz and King returned to harbor for only a day in case the British made another attempt before sailing in pursuit of Cunningham's force. But on the 6th, just south of Iceland, the fleet ran headlong into Ramsay, whose fleet performed poorly, allowing the battleships Formidable and People's Charter to be hit by carrier-based bombers before retreating. The Americans were unable to effectively follow up on their victory and Ramsay slipped away to safety. Meanwhile, shaken out of a sense of complacency by the British attack, Iceland was ordered to be substantially reinforced by I. III. and VIII. Armies, as well as at least one armored corps, were to be dispatched as soon as could be made ready.
Suddenly, on January 14, the French fleet was spotted in the north Atlantic by a small convoy of American merchant vessels. King immediately ordered the entire fleet out of port in pursuit. On the 20th, the French, under the command of Admiral Deat, was finally rediscovered north of the Azores. The Americans, while only marginally larger in numbers, benefited from a near-total advantage in carriers. Within an hour, the battleship Languedoc was hit and seriously damaged. Using his destroyers as a screen, Deat attempted to flee back to the safety of Brest, but King gave chase, finally catching up to the French just within the Bay of Biscay.
The ensuing battle was a disaster for the French; within a few hours, the battleship Gagcoigne and carrier Joffre took severe damage from American warplanes, while the North Carolina suffered damage from several hits from the battleship Jean Bart. This move, which drew the French battle line close to the Americans, proved to be a grave mistake, as swarms of American planes overwhelmed the French air defenses. By the end of the 21st, the Clemenseau, Languedoc, Gagcoigne, and Jean Bart were all sunk, with the Joffre also heavily damaged. The destruction of four battleships in a single battle, including two post-revolutionary designs, at the hands of carrier-based airplanes demonstrated for all that the era of big-gun battleships was coming to a close.
French defeat at sea, January 20-21.
Perhaps to emphasize just how true this was, in the American fleet, only the North Carolina had suffered serious damage. Confident that the French fleet was in disarray, King ordered Nimitz to escort the wounded battleship back to Iceland while the remainder of his fleet gave chase. But the French managed to slip away, using the cover provided by several squadrons of suicidal Danish destroyers to make good their escape to the safety of French waters. Though unable to completely destroy the French navy, King and Nimitz had nevertheless scored a crushing victory, the single greatest naval victory in American history to date. Suddenly, the task of securing the north Atlantic for the United States did not seem so insurmountable.
For the next several months following the flurry of naval activity in the north Atlantic, very little of consequence occurred. Admirals King and Nimitz continued to patrol the waters off New England, Newfoundland, and Iceland, having little success in locating the Syndicalist fleets and bringing them to battle, though also avoiding being brought to battle by the superior combined Syndicalist navies.
For their part, the Syndicalists, particularly the British, made it clear that engaging the American fleet was not a high priority. In late summer, the British landed a sizable expeditionary force in Tunisia, seizing Tunis and completely outflanking the Entente armies that had doggedly held their ground in the face of repeated Spanish attacks east of Algiers. Within a month, the whole of the Entente's North African coast was captured. Not resting content with this, the British proceeded to land an army on the Ivory Coast and Liberia in October, which rapidly began to advance in all directions in the face of only meager Entente resistance, bringing the very existence of Marshal Petain's Nationalist France into serious question.
The American reaction to developments in Africa was decidedly lackluster. Few considered West Africa to be of any appreciable worth, certainly not equal to the risk of dispatching the fleet into the south Atlantic, and only served to further demonstrate the futility of military cooperation with the Canadians and their allies. Democratic Senator Alben Barkley, who had first gained national attention for suggesting a military assistance package to the Entente nations in exchange for military access, made headlines by openly deriding the Entente's military effort. Thoroughly unimpressed with its record to date, the Senator described the Entente alliance as 'a pack of helpless schoolboys preyed upon by bullies.' As a legacy to the bitterness felt by many Midwesterners for Canadian interference in the civil war, several editorials of the Chicago Tribune went so far as to suggest simply 'borrowing' the Canadian fleet if they refused to use it.
American-Canadian cooperation was deemed unlikely by most.
With the public's attention no longer held by events at the front, such as it was, this kind of posturing continued throughout the autumn months and into the winter. The administration remained aloof, dismissing a war with the Canadians over present circumstances as outlandish. The military build-up continued to run smoothly, and weapons development projects were beginning to bear fruit; production on the new B-29 bomber, as well as an upgraded Sherman medium tank variant, began in full swing in late 1943. Concurrently, the military underwent a significant administrative change; Patrick Hurley, Chief of Staff since the Hoover Administration, announced his retirement on November 9, and was replaced by George Marshall. The change caused a minor stir in the public, particularly amongst certain circles that considered MacArthur to be a more suitable man for the job, ignoring the fact that Marshall had assumed most of Hurley's responsibilities since the start of the war.
Just a day before the change, news arrived from Iceland that British bombers had launched a surprise attack on Reykjavík. The raid inflicted only minimal damage on perimeter antiair batteries, and little was thought of it. That, however, changed, when on the morning of January 2, 1944, the British attempted to land two infantry divisions under the command of Lt. General Soames south of the Icelandic capital. Vandergrift's Marines responded swiftly, preventing the British from advancing beyond their beachheads. Fortunately, the American fleet was in harbor, and hurriedly sallied forth to engage Grand Admiral Cunningham's Atlantic Fleet, who lingered only long enough to cover the evacuation of Soames' troops before retreating back toward Scapa Flow.
Nimitz and King returned to harbor for only a day in case the British made another attempt before sailing in pursuit of Cunningham's force. But on the 6th, just south of Iceland, the fleet ran headlong into Ramsay, whose fleet performed poorly, allowing the battleships Formidable and People's Charter to be hit by carrier-based bombers before retreating. The Americans were unable to effectively follow up on their victory and Ramsay slipped away to safety. Meanwhile, shaken out of a sense of complacency by the British attack, Iceland was ordered to be substantially reinforced by I. III. and VIII. Armies, as well as at least one armored corps, were to be dispatched as soon as could be made ready.
Suddenly, on January 14, the French fleet was spotted in the north Atlantic by a small convoy of American merchant vessels. King immediately ordered the entire fleet out of port in pursuit. On the 20th, the French, under the command of Admiral Deat, was finally rediscovered north of the Azores. The Americans, while only marginally larger in numbers, benefited from a near-total advantage in carriers. Within an hour, the battleship Languedoc was hit and seriously damaged. Using his destroyers as a screen, Deat attempted to flee back to the safety of Brest, but King gave chase, finally catching up to the French just within the Bay of Biscay.
The ensuing battle was a disaster for the French; within a few hours, the battleship Gagcoigne and carrier Joffre took severe damage from American warplanes, while the North Carolina suffered damage from several hits from the battleship Jean Bart. This move, which drew the French battle line close to the Americans, proved to be a grave mistake, as swarms of American planes overwhelmed the French air defenses. By the end of the 21st, the Clemenseau, Languedoc, Gagcoigne, and Jean Bart were all sunk, with the Joffre also heavily damaged. The destruction of four battleships in a single battle, including two post-revolutionary designs, at the hands of carrier-based airplanes demonstrated for all that the era of big-gun battleships was coming to a close.
French defeat at sea, January 20-21.
Perhaps to emphasize just how true this was, in the American fleet, only the North Carolina had suffered serious damage. Confident that the French fleet was in disarray, King ordered Nimitz to escort the wounded battleship back to Iceland while the remainder of his fleet gave chase. But the French managed to slip away, using the cover provided by several squadrons of suicidal Danish destroyers to make good their escape to the safety of French waters. Though unable to completely destroy the French navy, King and Nimitz had nevertheless scored a crushing victory, the single greatest naval victory in American history to date. Suddenly, the task of securing the north Atlantic for the United States did not seem so insurmountable.
Well the US should role through some weak countries first that are anti American, Ireland ,being catholic, supports Austria and austria supports Germany who was occupied by France so you have a connection there
The balance of power is shifting in America's favour, but the British navy is still intact and has several carriers so an invasion may take a while. How big is the US Army at this point?
Greatest naval victory so far? Wtf?
What about the naval battle in the great lakes?
What about the naval battle in the great lakes?
Greatest naval victory so far? Wtf?
What about the naval battle in the great lakes?
What about the Battle of the Capes in September 1781? Sure, the battle was fought between the British and the French...but the battle allowed the Americans to trap the British at Yorktown and force them to surrender - which pretty much ended the American Revolution with America gaining her independence.
I'm finding something odd here. Do you really intend to invade mainland Europe? That would require a long bloody campaign with hundreds of thousands if not millions of casualties on both sides. Is the American public really motivated to do such a thing based on a few naval clashes? Also, how oppressive are the Syndicalist states in general? If life is like in the Soviet Union, then I suppose installing a democratic government might work relatively well, but if not, then have fun occupying the entire continent.
This is all from a roleplaying perspective of course. Nothing stopping you from doing what you want, but the high degree of plausability so far got me thinking.
This is all from a roleplaying perspective of course. Nothing stopping you from doing what you want, but the high degree of plausability so far got me thinking.
Who needs democracy?? Sell Britain to silly Canucks in exchange for... Canada!! And give France back to those sorry asses in Algiers.
Enewald: It's the bane of every country's existence, except Mongolia's. That Mad Baron keeps things simple.
Milites: You can rest assurred that, having invested in training and equiping the first paratrooper divisisions in history, the United States plans to use them.
kovan09: I'll simply repeat my earlier point that, having done nothing throughout the course of events, Ireland is likely not about to receive an American declaration of war.
yourworstnightm: But of what, and by whom!?
Kurt_Steiner: I must say, it was quite satisfying to blow up a large chunk of the French navy in one go.
Zhuge Liang: I'm not too sure, exactly. At the time the update ended, I'd estimate America had around 80 divisions.
Enewald/Nathan Madien: "Greatest" can mean many things. Certainly, no other American battle resulted in the destruction of four enemy battleships. In fact, in this timeline, the United States has never really fought a naval power.
Viden: Of course it will.
Parokki: Is it really that different from how things played out in real life? Hundreds of thousands of casualties, wartime shortages, massive rearmament, unconditional surrender, all because the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. Don't forget that large parts of this country voted for Huey Long, Mr. "Death to Syndicalism!" himself, not to mention rebelled specifically to resist Syndicalist influence on the country.
yourworstnightm: Britain for Canada would probably be one of the greatest scams since we bought Manhatten from the Indians.
And I imagine those Frenchies are somewhere in the Sahara right now, running away from Algiers.
Milites: You can rest assurred that, having invested in training and equiping the first paratrooper divisisions in history, the United States plans to use them.
kovan09: I'll simply repeat my earlier point that, having done nothing throughout the course of events, Ireland is likely not about to receive an American declaration of war.
yourworstnightm: But of what, and by whom!?
Kurt_Steiner: I must say, it was quite satisfying to blow up a large chunk of the French navy in one go.
Zhuge Liang: I'm not too sure, exactly. At the time the update ended, I'd estimate America had around 80 divisions.
Enewald/Nathan Madien: "Greatest" can mean many things. Certainly, no other American battle resulted in the destruction of four enemy battleships. In fact, in this timeline, the United States has never really fought a naval power.
Viden: Of course it will.
Parokki: Is it really that different from how things played out in real life? Hundreds of thousands of casualties, wartime shortages, massive rearmament, unconditional surrender, all because the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. Don't forget that large parts of this country voted for Huey Long, Mr. "Death to Syndicalism!" himself, not to mention rebelled specifically to resist Syndicalist influence on the country.
yourworstnightm: Britain for Canada would probably be one of the greatest scams since we bought Manhatten from the Indians.
And I imagine those Frenchies are somewhere in the Sahara right now, running away from Algiers.
Try to democratize Russia and then to have her helping in your Crusade in Europe
That could work, assuming they can draw the British Navy away long enough for the Americans to land in Europe safely.